Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 151. (Read 531168 times)

I own a couple S9s.  I am super happy with them.  However, BTC I DO NOT WANT TO SEE A FORK!!!! BTC Antpool's unannounced adoption of BU may force a hard fork, effectively creating two block chains with the "real" bitcoin.  If that happens then BTC will likely head into a downward trend.  BITMAIN, a company which I support and mined at until the BU adoption, likely sees gains in the long-term and puts them at a competitive advantage if the price drops because of lower priced electricity.  

If you can split Bitcoin, then what value does it have?  There is only 21 million Bitcoin.  If we hard fork, there becomes 42 million.  What prevents another split in the future?  The fact that BTC will not be duplicated is where it has value.  If it can - and would likely - show up on two separate chains (1MB and 8MB), then nobody will want it until all of the double transactions are worked into the BTC or XBC.

I, personally, like a larger block size but not unless we get the SegWit people to adopt it as well. There must be consensus in any changes for bitcoin to remain bitcoin.  There is not consensus.

I refuse to support this company, I would prefer to halt my operation and wait for competition to enter the market. Than to offer my hard earned money in support of someone who wants to ultimately see the destruction of bitcoin as we know it.

It just changes the order of display nothing more, but actually unless it's working it's fine, I was just wondering will it cause the problem or not

Possibly, I must say that I have not run into this kind of problem.
Does changing the fan connector in use make any difference?

I bought it as you advised and it works great, but it shows under the FAN3 that it's RPM is 30.600, is it possible that it can't resolve the speed and is working on 100%?

Not sure what their order/delivery timeframe was  but with the last batch that some folks made mention of getting coupons to make up for the higher price they paid for their early orders. I swear it was Feb. ones...

Anyone who got a coupon last round care to say what their order date was that Bitmain compensated for?

Exactly why I went back to GPU's,in the black with 4 of em,paid off in 4 months.....go eth!!! 

Looking for next GPU coin to mine

im interested in having this answered too....i asked but no one replied...you asked and no one replied again. if thats the case im owed a few coupons so far lol.
r u a troll?? i feel like u keep poppin up to flash you bit shot lifestyle around to everyone....the only problem is people on the interwebz know not to believe everything they hear. its easy to over embellish your numbers. i agree with you that btc mining is still doable with the right conditions and alotta luck with power costs/mining locations and experience that first hand every single day but at .10 per kwh your looking at not making much back if any at all. especially since most power costs are split into power and distribution costs so while your power cost may be .10 per kwh you distribution adds another few cents per kwh to the cost of running those machines not to mention cooling costs which raises the power. if i didnt have free power i know i wouldnt be mining and what your saying goes against all the bs you spewed in your previous posts....who bases roi on numbers that dont exist yet? thats not hitting roi...thats gambling and while thats up to you i have to say the other dude that posted is right....if your betting on btc prices going up to make money u should just buy and hold coins not miners. but thats assuming the miners are claiming to be buyer are actually being bought and used lol which im guessing thats where your fudging your numbers a bit but im a skeptical kinda guy.

Shitty chips that require a higher voltage to run stable.

Why is the new S9 only 12.5 TH/s?

if you rely on bitcoin price increasing to ROI, you would make MORE and be better off just buying bitcoin and holding it..

Now compare investments from 2013/14 to 2016/17. Bitcoin is going nowhere but up in the future.

I cannot predict the rise in btc as easily as you as it changes year to year.
2016 was good, but in 2014 price was going down, yet difficulty still rose from 1.180.923 to 40.640.955.017,
a full 34.4X while price went down from about $750 to $320.

Biodom, the flaw in your calculations is that you are forecasting a difficulty rise but not a BTC price increase. If the BTC price holds flat, the difficulty rise will not be 4% on average. You have to also assume a average % increase in price if you are going to assume an average increase in difficulty.

Nice try on convincing the mining market to wait tho

Not only a computer and genie, but also a show off. It is probably safe to say that you will only see a fraction of those 11.6BTC again, especially with $0.10 p/kWh electricity (though not entirely clear which currency that is).

ah, you are basing this purchase on your PRIOR cap gains...understood.
someone who bought 1.16 btc at $170 in 2015 could claim that they only paid $197 for this miner.
I prefer numbers based on the current fiat/btc ratio.

I base it off the real world numbers of already owning them and already earning enough from them to spend 11.6BTC for 10 more (on top of the $0.10 p/kWh I pay for electric).  

Did anybody from the 20/Feb batch receive a coupon?

You probably base it off some overly optimistic numbers..
$1410 cost
1350 watts at the wall (1225+10%)
current 7.81% difficulty rise per adjustment period.
NO brake even, EVER even at zero electricity cost if difficulty rise continues like this and btc does not appreciate.
Check for yourself.

However, if difficulty is more reasonable 4% and cost of electricity is 5c/kwh, then only $178 loss by the day 376.
If electricity 3c/kwh, then breakeven by day 341.

Show your real numbers...Or not, since my electricity cost is much higher than 3-5c, which was my initial point anyway.