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Topic: BitMaximum.io - More privacy during Bitcoin exchange / Coin mixer - page 10. (Read 21206 times)

sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
UNSECURE!!!
Well guys i've decided to check mixer before trying to mix something.
First of all i've noticed that this shit uses cloudflare, lol. But decided to go deeper!

So, lets assume what we have:
1) going to censys.io and simply enter bitmaximum.io: https://censys.io/ipv4?q=bitmaximum.io
2) we have 2 direct ips (leaseweb/serverius is just hosters so it's 100% managed and bought by topic starter), we also can access mixer by https://37.1.207.10/ru/
3) accessing both ips with https will return us cert for bitmaximum.io
4) hostname of 5.61.36.31 is juicefit.net, looking to whois:
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Whois Record for JuiceFit.net
How does this work?

 Domain Profile
Registrant   Mikhail A Kulyasov
Registrant Org   Mikhail A Kulyasov
Registrant Country   RU
Registrar   Regional Network Information Center, JSC dba RU-CENTER
IANA ID: 463
URL: http://www.nic.ru
Whois Server: whois.nic.ru
 
(p)
Registrar Status   clientTransferProhibited
Dates   1,000 days old
Created on 2015-12-04
Expires on 2018-12-03
Updated on 2016-05-05     
Tech Contact   Mikhail A Kulyasov
Suvorova 157/36,
Penza, Penzenskaya obl., 440008, RU
 
(p)
Domain Status   Registered And No Website
IP History   10 changes on 10 unique IP addresses over 4 years     
Registrar History   3 registrars with 2 drops   Hosting History  
Hosting History   8 changes on 7 unique name servers over 5 years
Mikhail, how are things going?

Simply uses google we even can find his companies, such as: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rusprofile.ru%2Fperson%2Fkulyasov-ma-583605447644&edit-text=&act=url

such a good privacy, so, what's the point of using mixer if everyone knowns whos manage it? What will happen if Mikhail will be arrested? Right, he'll provide any information about mixer users.
Good luck with that service, strongly recommend not to use that.

I do not think that persons declaring the privecy in intrernet will show their passports data.
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 104

I agree, just by ask them few technical questions/seeing reply, it's clear they they're not expert at manage privacy/anonymity. At this point, using private and fungible cryptocurrency is better.

But how many shops use private cryoptocurrency. Nobody wants to use Monero or Dash. But everybody wants to use bitcoin. It is necessary to make bitcoin  anonimiuse.

Private currencies for now is not the dicission of the problem.

As i mentioned previously on few previous post, altcoin users have choice to use services which help you make Bitcoin payment by deposit altcoin to their website such as https://xmr.to/.
Altcoin adoption/usage isn't as low as you think since both cryptocurrency's community you mentioned are solid and there's decent amount of merchants[1][2] which accept those cryptocurrency.

Besides, even though it's possible to make Bitcoin fully private and fungible, that won't happen because :
1. Require acceptance by majority of community
2. Require hard-fork which means there's extra works for wallet/service developer
3. Most private/fungible technology sacrifice decentralization in different way (verification time/memory requirement, transaction size, etc.), expect for Schnorr Signature and MAST (CMIIW).
4. There's already few cryptocurrency which specialized in this matter

1. https://getmonero.org/community/merchants/
2. https://www.dash.org/merchants/

All this looks very difficult for use. It is more simple to use the bitcoin mixer.

1. https://getmonero.org/community/merchants/
2. https://www.dash.org/merchants/

And compare this with ecosystem of Bitcoin. How many shops use it, how many wallets work with bitcoin and how many exchangers. It is uncompare thing. The ecosystem of Bitcoin much more strong than the ecosystem of Monero and Dash.
full member
Activity: 700
Merit: 110

I agree, just by ask them few technical questions/seeing reply, it's clear they they're not expert at manage privacy/anonymity. At this point, using private and fungible cryptocurrency is better.

But how many shops use private cryoptocurrency. Nobody wants to use Monero or Dash. But everybody wants to use bitcoin. It is necessary to make bitcoin  anonimiuse.

Private currencies for now is not the dicission of the problem.
copper member
Activity: 262
Merit: 0
The topic becomes more and more interesting. It is not necessary to pay to rise up the thread. The competitors do it.  Grin Grin Grin
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
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What else did you expect from someone who is paying shills to bump his thread every couple hours? Roll Eyes

Too many shit/scam mixers in the market these days.
You're right.
At least with information i provided ppl may decide should they use that mixer or not.
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 6830
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What else did you expect from someone who is paying shills to bump his thread every couple hours? Roll Eyes

Too many shit/scam mixers in the market these days.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
UNSECURE!!!
Well guys i've decided to check mixer before trying to mix something.
First of all i've noticed that this shit uses cloudflare, lol. But decided to go deeper!

So, lets assume what we have:
1) going to censys.io and simply enter bitmaximum.io: https://censys.io/ipv4?q=bitmaximum.io
2) we have 2 direct ips (leaseweb/serverius is just hosters so it's 100% managed and bought by topic starter), we also can access mixer by https://37.1.207.10/ru/
3) accessing both ips with https will return us cert for bitmaximum.io
4) hostname of 5.61.36.31 is juicefit.net, looking to whois:
Quote
Whois Record for JuiceFit.net
How does this work?

 Domain Profile
Registrant   Mikhail A Kulyasov
Registrant Org   Mikhail A Kulyasov
Registrant Country   RU
Registrar   Regional Network Information Center, JSC dba RU-CENTER
IANA ID: 463
URL: http://www.nic.ru
Whois Server: whois.nic.ru
 
(p)
Registrar Status   clientTransferProhibited
Dates   1,000 days old
Created on 2015-12-04
Expires on 2018-12-03
Updated on 2016-05-05     
Tech Contact   Mikhail A Kulyasov
Suvorova 157/36,
Penza, Penzenskaya obl., 440008, RU
 
(p)
Domain Status   Registered And No Website
IP History   10 changes on 10 unique IP addresses over 4 years     
Registrar History   3 registrars with 2 drops   Hosting History  
Hosting History   8 changes on 7 unique name servers over 5 years
Mikhail, how are things going?

Simply uses google we even can find his companies, such as: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rusprofile.ru%2Fperson%2Fkulyasov-ma-583605447644&edit-text=&act=url

such a good privacy, so, what's the point of using mixer if everyone knowns whos manage it? What will happen if Mikhail will be arrested? Right, he'll provide any information about mixer users.
Good luck with that service, strongly recommend not to use that.
copper member
Activity: 322
Merit: 0
Hi, i check your services and have few question/thoughts :
1. Any plans to use Schnorr Signature which improve user privacy when it's added to Bitcoin?
2. Do you have PGP/GPG key to contact you securely?
3. Do you support deposit from/withdraw to Bech32 address?

Anonymous coins are good. But, unfortunately, not everywhere I accept them as payment. Therefore, it is often necessary to use coins bitcoin. These transactions leave traces. So we have to use such services as this cryptomixer.
BTC->exchanger->Monero, ZCash, Dash ...->exchanger->BTC. w/o risk (if a reliable exchanger)
why not?

When you use the private exchangers and exchanges, you put yourself at risk. Deanonimization is maximum!

Not if you use decentralized exchange with secure connection.

7) other "anonymous" cryptocurrencies showed errors in their work during deep analysis. They also had various vulnerabilities (e.g.
as it was before in Monero). We are constantly reading and studying our colleagues, Blockchain researchers and leading specialists of various
Universities of the world, we are in the "epicenter of the Blockchain", visit Conferences, Valleys, and watch what is safe, and dont safe.

I strongly agree, but most privacy/anonymous cryptocurrency is a joke. They make privacy features optional which makes everyone can be deanonymized easily, few of them isn't private at all (such as Verge and DeepOnion which show all transaction information just like Bitcoin).


Cool Monero, dash, ZCash not convenient for everyday use. They are not fully popularized.

I agree, however there are few services which let users make Bitcoin (or any popular cryptocurrency) payment with their own private cryptocurrency such as https://xmr.to/ which preserve user's privacy to some degree while enjoy the benefit of popularity of major cryptocurrency.
IMO this gives users more privacy/anonymity compared to any mixer.

1) could You clarify the question please?
We do not really understand where in our system Schnorr Signature is needed and for what? It doesn't work anywhere else at all. This is a part of the fork of Bitcoin, when it will work fine no one knows! It seems to us that it is too early to talk about it. It have been talking for a year and a half about it, but still just toking. It's not even BIP yet. When this fork will be implemented and most nodes will support it, we will find a way to further maximize our customers with these new features, but now it is unnecessary.

2) PGP/GPG - OK. Will do.

3) Bech32 is a new format of SEGWIT addresses. Making a deposit in our direction, we don't care what addresses will be sent bitcoins. We do not withdraw Bitcoin for Bech32, we don't support it.
To do this we need a little time, in the first half of September we will do it.
It is also necessary to check with our clients whether they want us to provide  Bech32 address to withdraw, is it necessary for somebody? If someone wants, we will do it in September. No problem.
jr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 1
Miners Mix
High security level. The coins are transferred to the client from miners and from exchanges. Will be available soon.


This is really an inter-ethnic approach to business. So you can not either track the coin. cool
jr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 1
Tell me if there is any positive news about the project. Or maybe you found some partners? What would interest users is the development of the project
jr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 1

Are there any users who have successfully used the services of this project?

I used this service. It is a good one.

Tell me what amount you changed and what percentage of you took it?
copper member
Activity: 185
Merit: 0

Are there any users who have successfully used the services of this project?

I used this service. It is a good one.
jr. member
Activity: 224
Merit: 1
I think I do not know. Although there are many anonymous coins that can not be tracked

Some people do not trust anonymous coins because they know little about them. Everyone basically knows about bitcoin. That's just for such currencies and mixers are needed
jr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 1
I think I do not know. Although there are many anonymous coins that can not be tracked
jr. member
Activity: 224
Merit: 1
 do not use fast translations! The greater is  the delay between incoming and outcoming transactions, the greater is the privacy


You say do not use fast pioneers. But now everyone is striving for high-speed transactions. How does the speed of transactions relate to anonymity?
jr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 1

Are there any users who have successfully used the services of this project?
full member
Activity: 862
Merit: 100

Explain how the usual exchanges differ from mixers? only by that anonymity?

As I understand exhangers exchange diffenent crytocurencies, but mixers mix one cryptocurrency.
jr. member
Activity: 336
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Explain how the usual exchanges differ from mixers? only by that anonymity?

I guess, yes. This is the one that deposits money, but only these transactions can not be tracked.
jr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 1

Explain how the usual exchanges differ from mixers? only by that anonymity?
jr. member
Activity: 224
Merit: 1

Tell me how much time is spent on the whole process of exchange?

Time delay depends from tariffs. Time of delay is random in the time frame of the tariff:
1) standard (1 sec - 30)
2) Exchanges Mix (2 hours - 5 hours)
3) Exchanges Only (6 Hours - 11 hours)
4) Miners Mix (6 Hours - 11 hours)
5) Miners Only (6 Hours - 11 hours)

Tarifs very differnt. It is persible to choose an instant tariff if you do not want to wait.


Those users who are very important time of money transfer are willing to pay for speed and for anonymity
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