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Topic: BitMaximum.io - More privacy during Bitcoin exchange / Coin mixer - page 3. (Read 21206 times)

full member
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Merit: 100
the moon
I heard that your service is popular ... you have been on the market for a long time and have already recommended yourself from the good side and many people agree with your reliability.

How do you plan to develop your service in the future? As the market grows, more and more people are ready to exchange their bitcoins "without any fuss"
copper member
Activity: 322
Merit: 0
exchanged about 1btc today. very fast.

will keep doing my business here.

question:
when you use the standard service its coins from other users that are using  the same service right ? that gets "mixed" in a "pool" and then sent out to people like "me" right ?



Standard tariff provides absolutely any coins that the system chooses. Including those that were previously sent by other clients of the system.
At the Exchanges Mix tariff are available coins equally mixed with the coins directly from exchangers.

But we have built into our system a great bonus for fans of the Standard tariff!

About 1 time in 15 days, we completely clean coins at our own expense. Reset the coins, changing them to the coins with the exchange. That is, we are constantly updating the pool for coins with a trading history!
copper member
Activity: 322
Merit: 0
There is no mistake. Everything works as it is planned.

- In order to make it impossible to parse through the blockchain all the guarantee letters and hit us and customers with it - the system is made in such a way that the guarantee letters do not appear immediately after the transaction, but with a delay of 5-10 minutes.


PS. We strongly recommend that other services follow these rules, if they are not indifferent to the idea of anonymity.
Could you explain more?

How is delaying the generation of the letter of guarantee (which is only accessible to the costumer) helping with making "parsing through the blockchain" impossible? I don't see the point (?)

There are three different points.


1) We do not store the masterkey on the server, so we can not make guarantee letters immediately. We generate them on others computers after creating an order within 5-10 minutes (this is a lag to load the order and send the letter back).
2) we do not store it, as it is not safe. Remember the mixer closed by the Dutch police. They took everything from there everything they can. Therefore, we do not store anything there longer than the time required to process the order. After the order is done (the outgoing transaction is done, or the order is expired all information is deleted - incoming and outgoing addresses, guarantee letters.
3) If a person uses a web version, his sessions may be compromised. Leaks through the browser, mitm, etc. Then having the url of the guarantee letter, you can find out the parameters of the order - from where and to where.

Well, not only the master key (masterkey is private from addresses which are signed with).

We upload to the server all addresses that are issued to clients, one at a time. In case of server compromise, there will be no possibility to find out which addresses were used before.

Usually loaded xpub and derived from it (derivation path). We don't do this.

Summarizing....

We thought of everything. Generating a guarantee letter requires location a private key from the wallet that creates the signature on the server of mixer. In case the mixer is compromised, its customers will be able to give out fake addresses and fake guarantee letters. We sign the addresses that we give to clients on computers that are not connected to the Internet, then we unload the signatures together with the wallets at our server. This ensures that addresses given to customers can in no way be compromised by a third party (intelligence agency or hackers), under the  term that the client will verify the signature.
You have everything so thought out and safe. It seems that the market for such services is now a new leader .

Yes, we are the only ones in the world who provide such exchange services from cryptocurrency exchanges, from miners and in such volumes...But we don'T NEED a leadership. The service is not created for commercial benefits! We need followers of our idea! The idea of the inviolability of private life. We are for true philosophy blockchain creators: anonymity and decentralization.
legendary
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We did not write this, read carefully. Word  manually we haven't used anywhere. We wrote: We generate guarantee letters on others computers  that are not connected to the Internet after creating an order within 5-10 minutes.
I assumed that because how else would you do that if the computer isn’t connected to the internet? Isn’t that how air gapped computers/cold wallets work?

Also, why would it take 5-10 minutes if not that way?
copper member
Activity: 322
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Summarizing....

We thought of everything. Generating a guarantee letter requires location a private key from the wallet that creates the signature on the server of mixer. In case the mixer is compromised, its customers will be able to give out fake addresses and fake guarantee letters. We sign the addresses that we give to clients on computers that are not connected to the Internet, then we unload the signatures together with the wallets at our server. This ensures that addresses given to customers can in no way be compromised by a third party (intelligence agency or hackers), under the  term that the client will verify the signature.
Are you saying that when I go to your mixer and start mixing, you or one of your employees sign the Letter of Guarantee manually in the offline PC? 24 hours a day?

We did not write this, read carefully. Word  manually we haven't used anywhere. We wrote: We generate guarantee letters on others computers  that are not connected to the Internet after creating an order within 5-10 minutes.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
exchanged about 1btc today. very fast.

will keep doing my business here.

question:
when you use the standard service its coins from other users that are using  the same service right ? that gets "mixed" in a "pool" and then sent out to people like "me" right ?

copper member
Activity: 322
Merit: 0
What does give the tariff with miners, what is it necessary for? In general, please clarify in more details what is the difference between the tariffs, except for the price, of course.

The main disadvantage of Bitcoin is that any transaction can be tracked on the blockchain. The disadvantage of usual service of mixing is that you giving a "dirty money" at the result you can also get a " dirty money", only not yours. We have added to the service cleaning function, as a result, you get money from Bitcoin exchanges and miners. As for mining, the coins are deposited into your wallet as a reward for the creation of block, as if you are a miner.

The coins got by the technology of mining, never have the incoming transactions. It means you get newly created completely anonymous coins with no history. Everything is from a clean page!

Our solutions are really the best way to be sure of the origin of the coins!
member
Activity: 672
Merit: 11
There is no mistake. Everything works as it is planned.

- In order to make it impossible to parse through the blockchain all the guarantee letters and hit us and customers with it - the system is made in such a way that the guarantee letters do not appear immediately after the transaction, but with a delay of 5-10 minutes.


PS. We strongly recommend that other services follow these rules, if they are not indifferent to the idea of anonymity.
Could you explain more?

How is delaying the generation of the letter of guarantee (which is only accessible to the costumer) helping with making "parsing through the blockchain" impossible? I don't see the point (?)

There are three different points.


1) We do not store the masterkey on the server, so we can not make guarantee letters immediately. We generate them on others computers after creating an order within 5-10 minutes (this is a lag to load the order and send the letter back).
2) we do not store it, as it is not safe. Remember the mixer closed by the Dutch police. They took everything from there everything they can. Therefore, we do not store anything there longer than the time required to process the order. After the order is done (the outgoing transaction is done, or the order is expired all information is deleted - incoming and outgoing addresses, guarantee letters.
3) If a person uses a web version, his sessions may be compromised. Leaks through the browser, mitm, etc. Then having the url of the guarantee letter, you can find out the parameters of the order - from where and to where.

Well, not only the master key (masterkey is private from addresses which are signed with).

We upload to the server all addresses that are issued to clients, one at a time. In case of server compromise, there will be no possibility to find out which addresses were used before.

Usually loaded xpub and derived from it (derivation path). We don't do this.

Summarizing....

We thought of everything. Generating a guarantee letter requires location a private key from the wallet that creates the signature on the server of mixer. In case the mixer is compromised, its customers will be able to give out fake addresses and fake guarantee letters. We sign the addresses that we give to clients on computers that are not connected to the Internet, then we unload the signatures together with the wallets at our server. This ensures that addresses given to customers can in no way be compromised by a third party (intelligence agency or hackers), under the  term that the client will verify the signature.
You have everything so thought out and safe. It seems that the market for such services is now a new leader .
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 6830
Summarizing....

We thought of everything. Generating a guarantee letter requires location a private key from the wallet that creates the signature on the server of mixer. In case the mixer is compromised, its customers will be able to give out fake addresses and fake guarantee letters. We sign the addresses that we give to clients on computers that are not connected to the Internet, then we unload the signatures together with the wallets at our server. This ensures that addresses given to customers can in no way be compromised by a third party (intelligence agency or hackers), under the  term that the client will verify the signature.
Are you saying that when I go to your mixer and start mixing, you or one of your employees sign the Letter of Guarantee manually in the offline PC? 24 hours a day?
copper member
Activity: 322
Merit: 0
There is no mistake. Everything works as it is planned.

- In order to make it impossible to parse through the blockchain all the guarantee letters and hit us and customers with it - the system is made in such a way that the guarantee letters do not appear immediately after the transaction, but with a delay of 5-10 minutes.


PS. We strongly recommend that other services follow these rules, if they are not indifferent to the idea of anonymity.
Could you explain more?

How is delaying the generation of the letter of guarantee (which is only accessible to the costumer) helping with making "parsing through the blockchain" impossible? I don't see the point (?)

There are three different points.


1) We do not store the masterkey on the server, so we can not make guarantee letters immediately. We generate them on others computers after creating an order within 5-10 minutes (this is a lag to load the order and send the letter back).
2) we do not store it, as it is not safe. Remember the mixer closed by the Dutch police. They took everything from there everything they can. Therefore, we do not store anything there longer than the time required to process the order. After the order is done (the outgoing transaction is done, or the order is expired all information is deleted - incoming and outgoing addresses, guarantee letters.
3) If a person uses a web version, his sessions may be compromised. Leaks through the browser, mitm, etc. Then having the url of the guarantee letter, you can find out the parameters of the order - from where and to where.

Well, not only the master key (masterkey is private from addresses which are signed with).

We upload to the server all addresses that are issued to clients, one at a time. In case of server compromise, there will be no possibility to find out which addresses were used before.

Usually loaded xpub and derived from it (derivation path). We don't do this.

Summarizing....

We thought of everything. Generating a guarantee letter requires location a private key from the wallet that creates the signature on the server of mixer. In case the mixer is compromised, its customers will be able to give out fake addresses and fake guarantee letters. We sign the addresses that we give to clients on computers that are not connected to the Internet, then we unload the signatures together with the wallets at our server. This ensures that addresses given to customers can in no way be compromised by a third party (intelligence agency or hackers), under the  term that the client will verify the signature.
copper member
Activity: 322
Merit: 0
Im not aware on this Mixing service and seeing those plans is quite new but on first time on trying out it do already error even
i have just put up my address once.



I don't see the point (?)
It do also boggles my mind. Cry

DDoS protection worked. You probably quickly clicked the wizard (delay less than 3 seconds) or double-clicked on some of the steps.
hero member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 794
Im not aware on this Mixing service and seeing those plans is quite new but on first time on trying out it do already error even
i have just put up my address once.



I don't see the point (?)
It do also boggles my mind. Cry
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 6830
There is no mistake. Everything works as it is planned.

- In order to make it impossible to parse through the blockchain all the guarantee letters and hit us and customers with it - the system is made in such a way that the guarantee letters do not appear immediately after the transaction, but with a delay of 5-10 minutes.


PS. We strongly recommend that other services follow these rules, if they are not indifferent to the idea of anonymity.
Could you explain more?

How is delaying the generation of the letter of guarantee (which is only accessible to the costumer) helping with making "parsing through the blockchain" impossible? I don't see the point (?)
copper member
Activity: 322
Merit: 0
I made a mix and wait a quaranty letter about 5 minits. Is it normal to wait quaranty letter so long?

There is no mistake. Everything works as it is planned.

- In order to make it impossible to parse through the blockchain all the guarantee letters and hit us and customers with it - the system is made in such a way that the guarantee letters do not appear immediately after the transaction, but with a delay of 5-10 minutes.


PS. We strongly recommend that other services follow these rules, if they are not indifferent to the idea of anonymity.
jr. member
Activity: 86
Merit: 1
I made a mix and wait a quaranty letter about 5 minits. Is it normal to wait quaranty letter so long?
copper member
Activity: 322
Merit: 0
Hey,

I am waiting for over 12hrs for a standard mix and also the "Letter of guarentee" was suddenly gone - anybody had similar experience? Anything to worry about?

thanks

The fact is that you sent an amount less than 0.01 btc. Our service skips such transactions and does not process them. Please read the rules of our service. What is the minimum transaction amount?
The minimum transaction amount depends of service plan and can not be less than 0.01 BTC. Transaction amounts smaller than indicated in the service plans are considered donations. You can check our service plans on the corresponding page.
copper member
Activity: 322
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How we differ from other services:
 

- First, we are driven by an idea! We are a community of enthusiasts, gathered together the representatives of the IT industry, for whom the phrase "private life" is not an empty phrase. We understand that not everyone is ready to sacrifice the privacy for dubious benefits. That is why we have created a service that allows you to protect yourself from too close attention of third parties to your transactions in the Bitcoin network.

- Second: usual (the other) mixing services are morally old. The disadvantage of the usual service is that you giving a "dirty money" at the result you can also get a " dirty money", only not yours. We have added a cleaning function to the service, as a result, you get money from Bitcoin exchanges or mining. We have developed the innovative methods of mixing, improving the classical algorithms. In fact, we have everything cleverly thought out and everything is difficult (our ratings and wallet levels; unique ranking system of the wallets (the direct correlation of the level of wallet with the level of privacy); a powerful strong algorithm of randomization (at the depth of the chain, time and size of the commission); protection against Sybil Attack, etc.. And it is only a small part of the list!!! Everything is thought out to the smallest details! There is no way to trace the transaction chain using the existing services.

- The third: the distinctive feature is our variety of tariffs. Depending on the amount of funds and the level of privacy you need, we offer different rates, the parameters of which you can study on the page https://bitmaximum.io/ru/rates
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
Hey,

I am waiting for over 12hrs for a standard mix and also the "Letter of guarentee" was suddenly gone - anybody had similar experience? Anything to worry about?

thanks
copper member
Activity: 185
Merit: 0
I like to see how here the support service work. They asked all the questions as soon as possible and explain everything.
copper member
Activity: 322
Merit: 0
I have soon been waitng for 4 hours for a standard mix ? have still not recived any coins.


Should i be worried ?

edit: Contacted support, they had some problems. But they solved it.


 Smiley

We apologize for any inconvenience.

We use TOR to push up the transactions on the blockchain network. It makes impossible to trace the source that generates the transactions and link them together by IP. Due to the unstable work of TOR, sometimes unplanned delays can occur.

Do not worry, all coins will come to you in the near future.
It was the update of core and then the setting of hosting. Now everything is working fine.
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