Topic: BitRoul.com the only Roulette with no Zero and a solid Provably Fair - page 10. (Read 1776 times)

Nice approach in all inquiries , Showing your attitude nicely.

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Welcome to the forum Guys , Please stay with High notes and respect from the whole community .

Like the simplicity of the website but I think you can use the empty space under the roulette board to show bet history, can be both all bets history and my bet history. As for now your website looks without players as there is no bets history of all your players. Most people may feel that your site is like a dead site without any activity once they come for the first time because there is no bets history.

  Thank you bin-bin , Ril Wan , Amore JAz , Reatim and all of you ,
  you are so passionate , I love you .

  Next version will integrate the max bet by game .
   and , again , try the mobile version , you will like the style "heavy duty" of the BitRoul .

Am glad that more and more sites are popping up this day that offers Roulette as it is my favorite game, your site looks decent and clean it gives me a whole different experience from the excitement I used to get from other sites I have been using before. But you still get some work to do on your platform to enhance your chances of becoming the top roulette platform with a provably fair system one of such is to list more exciting games and also accept several cryptocurrencies as deposits and withdrawals.

Thanks will give more feedback as I keep using the site.

I might say that Your Portal is Cute and clean , But don't you wanna put some other context in your   interface? because the way
 i see it is very plain and natural in which might not lure more players.



But I am a Roulette lover mate , and that's what i almost played in all my favorite sites, also with your freebies ?

I think I will visit and check your site deeper later.

I quick look at your site proves to me that your platform is one of the best in probably fair features and the free spins to try it out also gave me an added advantage since I don't need to deposit before I could try your site out.

Then dear proud owner sir, hire some promotional team and do some promotions.
Your announcement thread is dull and full of text only, no catchy images nothing. Just plain text.
Work on that and make it attractive so that players will visit the site.
Now what’s the max bet amount in the site as of now?
And do you also require KYC for withdrawal?

  Hello there .

  Sorry if i cannot answer in real time to all of your interesting takes . bitcointalk grants me only few messages .

  To Hauzenberg : Your analysis is good , but does not prove any fail in our Provably Fair .
  What do you say ? : the nonce is a weak element in the chain serverseed+clientseed+nonce  . Nothing new on that point . Nonce is not a key factor , it's salt . It complicates the thing .
   But , again , nothing new .
  The key fact of Provably fair process , mine or some serious others is that the server seed has to be declared as early as possible and of course before the end of the bets . It is the case on the BitRoul , and the future versions will see some major improvements in this matter .

Provability Fair is not a gadget , it s all about it .

   To other Legendary or Hero members , again I have a deep respect for all of you . Just consider that the look and feel , according to you "plain" or maybe "childish " is in the desktop version , and please have a rapid look to the BitRoul mobile version , and feed us back , honestly . We put some major efforts into the playability , without any "dirty" downloads , only html . Yeah that's cool and sane  . Welcome to sanity in the strange world of online gambling .

  Pierre-Peter  
  Founder of BitRoul.com
  

i really do understand you Mate and believe me all our concern is for your site to be welcomed and work best not only in this forum but in the whole world of gambling business because we as gamblers are always seeking for another great place to play and trust so it is on your side to what to do and what to offer for us to trust and stay long playing in your site.

All The best !!! and remember is Stress is the reason why we are keeping struggling and strong so bear with it and do what is necessary .

Good Luck !!

he mentioned that he's the owner of the site in the early posts. i guess, he needs to hire a good developer here and improve his site. if this is a one-man team, it is understandable that he has a lot of things to do here.
so i don't think this is good for high rollers. imo, this site is not yet ready to accept high traffic.

Looking at those words he said then he had mentioned that he would pay if this site proven out on not to be fair so we can really say that he's the owner of the site.

Welcome into this forum BitRoul.com!

First glance on your gambling site then i dont see for it to be appealing.It do looks like a school project and i dont see any efforts been put up and if you do try to compare it on other
competitors then you would able to tell for yourself about the big difference.

I proved it in two different ways.


I'm not talking about 5 seconds, I'm talking about SINGLE second. I proved in this post on REAL example that 1 second different generate 100% different output

^ This is real roll from your website.

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Leaving my BTC address for reward

 Hauzenberg , 5 seconds of nonce cheating for the house is not relevant .
 when the player pushes "SPIN" , he has the power to chose his time , and the house could not deal with 5 seconds of cheat without being caught

 For the rest , As long as we do not settle the limits of the bet , i cannot incite you to play big .
As you can see we promptly modify the Terms and conditions in this way .
 
let's wait next version .and stay in touch

You didn't answer me about site's bankroll and way of earning... I'm highroller and I want to try your site but I'm not sure about how much your bankroll is big in case I win. And because of 50/50 and no house edge there is pretty good chance if I deposit high amount that I will have some profits on your site...

So, about provably fair issue, am I qualified for $500?

Roulette with no zero wow, I must try this one, but are the payouts the same for everything else like the columns,  even and odd, corner bets...

Because without that 0 my winning chances just went over the roof.

"No cheat" how do you guarantee this, because game manipulations aren't new to gambling.

hi Hauzenberg ,

Your message is clever and relevant .

  There will be some day a bizness model , but no rush, I have tons of tasks in my todolists .
  First renew and refresh the image and the fact of the roulette .
 
  about the Provably fair , you are perfectly right when you say that the nonce is not a perfect protection , in the cases where :
  - the player bets on red/black , odd/even ...
 and the player does not exercise his power to issue a new seed .
 
  the provably fair remains a struggle between the house and the player ,
 I want to give the player the opportunity to be 50/50 with the house .
 But the player could niglect this opportunity .

  In the case you describe , all the problem is to facilitate the change of the seed by the player .
  The Bitroul  i present is not yet efiicient on that point , but a next version will change the game .

 Also if my nonce : the time is not the best one , it is much much better than the ones like : nonce=previous nonce+1

 

I really like non-standard casinos and casino games, I play them a lot. I'm not a big fun of classic dice / mines / plinko games, etc. So, this has a good potential but you really need to make a better ANN thread.

I have two questions:

1. How do you plan to make money with 0% house edge?
2. If you don't make money with this casino, how would you be able to pay out players? Or even better question: how big is your bankroll?

Also, I have found a two ways how you (house) can cheat on us (gamblers) and that your provably fair system is fail.

Your provably fair is based on

First of all, in provably fair systems HOUSE CANNOT CHANGE server seed until client seed is changed (or they can but must use pre-generated next server seed before user setting his own client seed). Right now, your server seed is changed with every bet and that's a problem because house can teach how gambler is playing (for example martingale strategy using only RED bets) and house can prepare next server seed which is black!

Second issue with your provably fair is Nonce. You use CURRENT TIME as Nonce and there is no strictly definition when Nonce is created. For example, house can change Nonce a few seconds up and mess with result.

Example round:
server seed: 3s6B2CpPj0f3YruYoCclVbquhdxihwk3iBCu0gP2fafSh8WLht
client seed: hauzenberg123
nonce: 10:30:35


if house pretends to be busy (slow server) it can change Nonce to 10:30:36 and result is:

You got offended by the words 'plain', 'bland', 'poor' and 'bad'? Seriously? You don't stand a chance in this crazy competitive industry with that kind of attitude. As @acroman08 mentioned above, you need to thicken your skin if you want to take on the competition.

Also, love? Did you think that this is some kind of fantasy land or something? My interest in your site has dropped considerably.

 answer to the yahoo 62278 stress test :

  As it was already declared ,so far  we have not settled any maximum bet size .
  you put the finger where its painful .
 The big size of your bets is the source of the issues .
 The pay out is capped , before next version that will integrate the management of the maximum bet size .
 anyway , even in this circumstance  if you can show that you made the bet , you will be paid accordingly to the general rules of roulette payment that will be added in the Terms and Conditions very soon .

  

Thank you reatim ,

I feel honoured to be welcome in your community .
I will try to bring my personal view of fairness and honesty to this strange industry .

It starts badly for me : a stress test shows big lacks in our control .

see you .