Topic: Bitscalper.com Threat Level (Read 4203 times)
Has anyone had their withdraws processed in the last 24 hours? Something tells me this big sell off we just saw might have been bitscalper running away with the cash as his ponzi scheme collapses, under the guise of being hacked. Post your successes and failures. I have none since I did not invest in this venture.
Passwords leaked:
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitscalper-passwords-have-been-leaked-63659
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitscalper-passwords-have-been-leaked-63659
..as long as more money comes in than is withdrawn.. 
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What to think about this neverending story - bitscalper was down now for the last couple of days. I really thought "thank you guys i got out my BTC to the right time". But now it is online again and people report correct payouts.
If Mr. Bitscalper would be a scammer, he could have make the cut already. But nope, bitscalper is still running. (Okay, running again finally... )
If Mr. Bitscalper would be a scammer, he could have make the cut already. But nope, bitscalper is still running. (Okay, running again finally...
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I am surprised the when his AutoVPS went down and he had no access to any information that no one took more note of this. There was no backup of the site so if he was unable to recover the data from his service provider then anyone with coins in it would have been SOL. It sounds to me like peoples money could be at serious risk even if he is 100% legitimate (which is highly questionable a this point). It's a variable gold mine to hackers from what I can tell.
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I am surprised the when his AutoVPS went down and he had no access to any information that no one took more note of this. There was no backup of the site so if he was unable to recover the data from his service provider then anyone with coins in it would have been SOL. It sounds to me like peoples money could be at serious risk even if he is 100% legitimate (which is highly questionable a this point). It's a variable gold mine to hackers from what I can tell.
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This. 100% This. Even if the service itself was legitimate, how could I trust someone who got no backup in any way of my BTC?
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I also received nearly 3 BTC in 1 day. One man's profit is another man's loss. We aren't arguing that he is giving people money, we're arguing where that money is actually coming from and if the site is just a confidence scam. Without a single shred of proof of the site's inner workings (understandable) and the owner insisting on absolute and total anonymity, there is nothing else to argue. It shouldn't be touched with a ten foot pole.
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I know who he is. What I meant was, bitscalper showing one person their code does not calm the fears of many people.
^^^ This. This is why I felt it was time to bring this public. Fuck me if I'm responsible for letting everyone's money get stolen if I had a chance to do something about it.
1. I guess I always want to have the option of having an even lower opinion of something.
Actually I'm pretty neutral about it. No trust sums it up, but I think you can go lower than that, into active distrust. There is a difference...
Maybe the scale should be more like:
5: implicit trust.
0: no trust.
-5: It's a scam.
Actually I'm pretty neutral about it. No trust sums it up, but I think you can go lower than that, into active distrust. There is a difference...
Maybe the scale should be more like:
5: implicit trust.
0: no trust.
-5: It's a scam.
Yep. That's the scale I'll be using in software. Unit of measure will be BTC. Trust = amount of BTC one would loan. Negative trust marks an enemy of the trader (participant who has scammed, attacked or otherwise misbehaved). Needless to say, an unknown person starts very close to zero.
^------ This.
Oh-so-many questions and hints never answered by BS..
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Oh-so-many questions and hints never answered by BS..
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There's a growing trend: calling Bitscalper BS
^------ This.
Oh-so-many questions and hints never answered by BS..
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Oh-so-many questions and hints never answered by BS..
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I know who he is. What I meant was, bitscalper showing one person their code does not calm the fears of many people. I was trying to explain to bitscalper that they need to open up to the rest of the community and make what they do with their client's money clear. He made it seem like if he offered to show a highly trusted member of the bitcoin community his code then he should be trusted as well. My reasoning is, biscalper has a lot more to do than that.
By the sounds of it the code that he did show did not really prove anything. The fact that Matthew does not think he is trustworthy is something to take note of.
I am surprised the when his AutoVPS went down and he had no access to any information that no one took more note of this. There was no backup of the site so if he was unable to recover the data from his service provider then anyone with coins in it would have been SOL. It sounds to me like peoples money could be at serious risk even if he is 100% legitimate (which is highly questionable a this point). It's a variable gold mine to hackers from what I can tell.
There was never any answer to this either:
11:00 AM in Germany, still no answer, nothing. There's no magicaltux on IRC either.
Do you have a recent off-site backup of your site, database, software and data? If so, how about setting up a quick VPS somewhere else under a second domain name? You can use that as a backup server once your current VPS comes back up?
Matthew is the head of the DCAO, which most Bitcoin business owners are members of. He is also the editor of Bitcoin Magazine and the main host for BitTalk TV. He is about as trustworthy of a person as you will find in our little community here. It would have been in bitscalpers best interests to be more forward and open with him. There is no Bitcoin mafia and we would just like to prevent another MyBitcoin from happening. Him insulting Matthew and saying he was extorting him is just absolutely stupid.
I know who he is. What I meant was, bitscalper showing one person their code does not calm the fears of many people. I was trying to explain to bitscalper that they need to open up to the rest of the community and make what they do with their client's money clear. He made it seem like if he offered to show a highly trusted member of the bitcoin community his code then he should be trusted as well. My reasoning is, biscalper has a lot more to do than that.
Matthew is the head of the DCAO, which most Bitcoin business owners are members of.
Members of DCAO: Give-or-take 30.Definition of "most": "The greatest part or number: Most of the town was destroyed. Most of the books were missing."
Businesses listed on the Bitcoin Wiki: More than I can fucking count.
Ba-dum-tish!
Members of DCAO ~ 50
Most of the businesses on the wiki page no longer exist and many of them own multiple businesses.
Can't help but notice you are labelled a scammer.
Yes! Arr, how unfortunate! Matthew is the head of the DCAO, which most Bitcoin business owners are members of.
Members of DCAO: Give-or-take 30.Definition of "most": "The greatest part or number: Most of the town was destroyed. Most of the books were missing."
Businesses listed on the Bitcoin Wiki: More than I can fucking count.
Ba-dum-tish!
Members of DCAO ~ 50
Most of the businesses on the wiki page no longer exist and many of them own multiple businesses.
Can't help but notice you are labelled a scammer.
Matthew is the head of the DCAO, which most Bitcoin business owners are members of.
Members of DCAO: Give-or-take 30.Definition of "most": "The greatest part or number: Most of the town was destroyed. Most of the books were missing."
Businesses listed on the Bitcoin Wiki: More than I can fucking count.
Ba-dum-tish!
I offered Matthew to eventually verify part of our codebase and waiting for someone from the trusted members pool to contact me. Withdrawals are processing correctly.
It is nice for you to offer that, but I don't personally know who Matthew is either. You have a communication problem with the community. When you come out of Beta testing I hope you address people's worries.
Matthew is the head of the DCAO, which most Bitcoin business owners are members of. He is also the editor of Bitcoin Magazine and the main host for BitTalk TV. He is about as trustworthy of a person as you will find in our little community here. It would have been in bitscalpers best interests to be more forward and open with him. There is no Bitcoin mafia and we would just like to prevent another MyBitcoin from happening. Him insulting Matthew and saying he was extorting him is just absolutely stupid.
I offered Matthew to eventually verify part of our codebase and waiting for someone from the trusted members pool to contact me. Withdrawals are processing correctly.
It is nice for you to offer that, but I don't personally know who Matthew is either. You have a communication problem with the community. When you come out of Beta testing I hope you address people's worries.
1. I guess I always want to have the option of having an even lower opinion of something.
Actually I'm pretty neutral about it. No trust sums it up, but I think you can go lower than that, into active distrust. There is a difference...
Maybe the scale should be more like:
5: implicit trust.
0: no trust.
-5: It's a scam.
Actually I'm pretty neutral about it. No trust sums it up, but I think you can go lower than that, into active distrust. There is a difference...
Maybe the scale should be more like:
5: implicit trust.
0: no trust.
-5: It's a scam.
That is a good idea. It is also easier to visualize.
I have a good experience with Bitscalper but it would be nice to see a more transparent business style.
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