BitStamp - hacked and down - page 10.

mayax

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Quote from: stdset on January 05, 2015, 06:32:45 PM

Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 06:26:31 PM

Quote from: stdset on January 05, 2015, 06:24:02 PM

Quote from: rokkyroad on January 05, 2015, 03:51:34 PM

Do any of these situations end well? Gox, Vircurex, Cryptorush, Mintpal.

Only one that I know of: Poloniex was hacked but paid everyone back.

Btc-e also survived a hack back in 2012: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btc-e-hacked-still-unfolding-96831

who is BTC-e owner or CEO ? do you know where is their office?

BTC-e is very fishy.

What you are trying to say? That they scammed somebody? I personally didn't experience any issues with them, neither with Bitstamp until now.

I am saying that many people are using fishy companies. who is BTC-e? give one name, a bank account under their company's name, give me something that it's real about them

stdset

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Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 06:26:31 PM

Quote from: stdset on January 05, 2015, 06:24:02 PM

Quote from: rokkyroad on January 05, 2015, 03:51:34 PM

Do any of these situations end well? Gox, Vircurex, Cryptorush, Mintpal.

Only one that I know of: Poloniex was hacked but paid everyone back.

Btc-e also survived a hack back in 2012: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btc-e-hacked-still-unfolding-96831

who is BTC-e owner or CEO ? do you know where is their office?

BTC-e is very fishy.

What you are trying to say? That they scammed somebody? I personally didn't experience any issues with them, neither with Bitstamp until now.

mayax

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Quote from: stdset on January 05, 2015, 06:24:02 PM

Quote from: rokkyroad on January 05, 2015, 03:51:34 PM

Do any of these situations end well? Gox, Vircurex, Cryptorush, Mintpal.

Only one that I know of: Poloniex was hacked but paid everyone back.

Btc-e also survived a hack back in 2012: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btc-e-hacked-still-unfolding-96831

who is BTC-e owner or CEO ? do you know where is their office?

BTC-e is very fishy.

stdset

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Quote from: rokkyroad on January 05, 2015, 03:51:34 PM

Do any of these situations end well? Gox, Vircurex, Cryptorush, Mintpal.

Only one that I know of: Poloniex was hacked but paid everyone back.

Btc-e also survived a hack back in 2012: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btc-e-hacked-still-unfolding-96831

mayax

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call Bitstamp. travel to Slovenia if you are in Europe. it's 2 hours away of any Europe corner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob9Ak1t09Ao

P0rny

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Quote from: Pustul on January 05, 2015, 05:17:08 PM

Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 04:57:40 PM

Ask your money back !

Lol you keep saying that, tell me how instead...

Yep, unless you guys are hiding Bitstamp's employees in your pockets... exactly how are you going to "ask" for anything?

If someone has a spare genie, please lend me your lamp Wink

princesocapuyo

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Presale is live!

Can someone explain this to me though? I mean, if they didn't get hacked then they scammed people? everyone keeps advising to get their money back like they're gonna lose it.

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Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 04:57:40 PM

Ask your money back !

Lol you keep saying that, tell me how instead...

Nagle

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As a reminder, here's the first Mt. Gox notice when they stopped withdrawals:

Quote from: Nagle on July 02, 2013, 12:17:54 AM

The important thing is not to buy or sell, it's to get assets out of Mt. Gox if you can. If Mt. Gox is honest, they have 100% of the funds deposited, and taking assets out of Mt. Gox won't hurt them. If they're not...

I'm saying the same thing this time. If there's any way you can get your assets out of Bitstamp, do it now. Do not delay. Use lawyers if necessary.

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nejc-kodric-bitstampnet-38966

You see. Vod knew this long time ago, that Bitstamp is scam. He placed negative trust t one of Bitstamp owner half year ago. If more people would listen to Vod, world of crypto would be much safer.

mayax

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Quote from: Bit_Happy on January 05, 2015, 04:39:58 PM

Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 03:45:17 PM

...
...I repeat, almost ALL the money are in their bank account.

Most of the people are depositing by bank wire so, Bitstamp has the money as fiat currency.

Let's say the BTC from Bitstamp wallets disappear, the BTC is backed by real money(at least 90% from it)

When miners and merchants sell BTC some/many of them quickly withdraw the fiat. To say that Bitstamp can cover lost Bitcoins from the bank account makes no sense in the real world.

There is no reason to panic, since Stamp has a much better track record than Gox ever did.

I am saying that all the Bitcoin that Bitstamp's clients are buying, are bought with real money by bank wire.
These money are in Bitstamp's bank account.

more than that, imagine someone is buying 1 BTC with 300 USD by bank wire and a week after 1 BTC = 200 USD. many are selling.
Make the calculations. Bitstamp had around of 2 MIL USD deposits per day.
a month ago 1 BTC = 380 .
now 1 BTC = 280 USD

100 USD is the difference. calculate how much they earned in 1 month only from bitcoin price.
YES, they earned millions in one month

)

Ask your money back !

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A Great Time to Start Something!

Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 03:45:17 PM

...
...I repeat, almost ALL the money are in their bank account.

Most of the people are depositing by bank wire so, Bitstamp has the money as fiat currency.

Let's say the BTC from Bitstamp wallets disappear, the BTC is backed by real money(at least 90% from it)

When miners and merchants sell BTC some/many of them quickly withdraw the fiat. To say that Bitstamp can cover lost Bitcoins from the bank account makes no sense in the real world.

There is no reason to panic, since Stamp has a much better track record than Gox ever did.

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Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 04:01:02 PM

Quote from: carlosiness on January 05, 2015, 03:50:27 PM

again misinformation, domain not down..

Mtgox domain is up. Does it help?

Hah, right argument...but they promise (stamp) to cover the loses so why should there be an problem with value?

mayax

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Quote from: KIRAZ on January 05, 2015, 04:16:11 PM

Nothing have been enclosed with hacked or compromised. They already gave a public statement, people just like to fud at this.
They To restate: "the bulk of our bitcoin are in cold storage, and remain completely safe."

please read again :

"We have reason to believe that one of Bitstamp’s operational wallets was compromised on January 4th, 2015."

https://www.bitstamp.net/

mayax

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Quote from: Keyser Soze on January 05, 2015, 04:13:39 PM

Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 04:09:14 PM

please tell that to Mt Gox clients who lost A LOT of money.

People like you came at that time saying that "someone is spreading FUD".

Ok, prove these two bolded claims you made then:

Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 03:45:17 PM

I repeat, almost ALL the money are in their bank account.

Most of the people are depositing by bank wire so, Bitstamp has the money as fiat currency.

Let's say the BTC from Bitstamp wallets disappear, the BTC is backed by real money(at least 90% from it)

Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 03:42:43 PM

and because of the fake transactions. all big exchangers reported fake transactions. almost 50% are fake.
they manipulated the Bitcoin price and Bitstamp is not a stranger of this, being the 3rd one as volume.

Look to the Bitstamp numbers. Most of their deposits are coming from bank wires. How else? It's something normal.

How can you buy Bitcoin from Bitstamp if you want to trade? By bank wire, of course. How do you withdrawn your Bitcoin? By bank wire. All the transactions are through bank in the end because the people needs real money not Bitcoin.

So, BitStamp has a lot of money in their bank account which can cover any loss (or least should do it...who knows ...)

KIRAZ

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Nothing have been enclosed with hacked or compromised. They already gave a public statement, people just like to fud at this.
They To restate: "the bulk of our bitcoin are in cold storage, and remain completely safe."

Keyser Soze

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Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 04:09:14 PM

please tell that to Mt Gox clients who lost A LOT of money.

People like you came at that time saying that "someone is spreading FUD".

Ok, prove these two bolded claims you made then:

Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 03:45:17 PM

I repeat, almost ALL the money are in their bank account.

Most of the people are depositing by bank wire so, Bitstamp has the money as fiat currency.

Let's say the BTC from Bitstamp wallets disappear, the BTC is backed by real money(at least 90% from it)

Quote from: mayax on January 05, 2015, 03:42:43 PM

and because of the fake transactions. all big exchangers reported fake transactions. almost 50% are fake.
they manipulated the Bitcoin price and Bitstamp is not a stranger of this, being the 3rd one as volume.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtCVRIwcBYU&index=1&list=PLjgfpSQFJTLqbgHm8mkgPdD-ma7t0bRhK

decentralized BTC exchange cannot be hacked

(trustless / no counterparty risk / insured and secured by blockchain technology)

mayax

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please tell that to Mt Gox clients who lost A LOT of money.

People like you came at that time saying that "someone is spreading FUD".

I am just saying that Bistamp's clients must claim their money back. Their money are into Bitstamp's bank account. They don't have to be passive as they were with MTgox.

They must react from the first moment an exchanger is "down" for a "hacking" problem.

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Quote from: psybits on January 05, 2015, 03:46:02 PM

That article doesn't say anything about exchanges faking transactions?

Even without the long chain transactions the article refers to - Bitcoin transactions have been steadily increasing.

Not really sure what evidence you have for your claims?

He doesn't have any, he just wants to spread fud.

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