Topic: Bitstarz Casino - Confusing review's - What's the final outcome? - page 2. (Read 406 times)

Hi there,

About your case here, we've addressed it in another thread, but I don't mind repeating it.

You used your mom's documents to play at BitStarz. I'm not sure how familiar many people are here with casino rules, but I have a feeling that many people here (casino player
or not) could see a problem with someone using their mom's passport to play casino online with her identity. Also lying about it, and then confessing on video that you did. It's also recorded, and if you want I'm happy to share the video here publicly to prove that this is indeed the truth.

When you accuse something of being a scam, I think it's a fair statement where someone hasn't done anything wrong and followed the rules, yet the casino (or company in question) is taking action against an account. Now, when you're using your mom's identity (which is not only illegal but a very lousy way to treat your own mom if I may say so), thus breaking the most fundamental of rules of a casino, I wouldn't call the casino a scam from being in line with the law.

I'm not sure what the rest of the forum thinks, and everyone here is of course entitled to their own opinion. But I don't think this would be classified as a scam.

Regards,

Olle

It's a scam casino, they will confiscate your deposits+winnings and will try to find any excuses to not pay you out and steal your deposit, I recommend avoiding this casino.

And this guy "Olle"(Fake name) has a nice scam/act tactics to trick you in.

Hi Acerkidd,

It's a good question you're asking regarding the payout of games, because I think there's a lot of misunderstandings and misinformation on the topic.

Games are different mathematically, but all of them have an edge for the casino, this varies depending on the game that you're playing, but all games
in the casino favor the casino ultimately. This means that if you play an infinite number of game rounds, the house will win. However, that doesn't mean
that the return of the slot is constant. So just because a game has a payout of 97% on average. It doesn't mean that you get 97 dollars back on every
spin that you make, right? But in the theory of big numbers, that's how a casino always win, but that doesn't mean that individual players can't win in
the short term.

Now, to your question about 25 spins without win. I would say it's generally a rarity, but it really comes down to a couple of factors. The slot you're playing,
and if you're lucky or not. Some games are high variance (volatility if you will) and can go many game rounds without you winning a single round, to then
pay a big multiplier. I normally call these "all or nothing" kind of games. There are games that are more on the low volatility side, and they are more even
in their payout.

When it comes to any operator of a casino, we don't have any control over the payout of the games themselves. We don't create the games nor do we own
them. They are "leased" if you will, from a third party game provider which on their end is responsible for creating, checking and monitoring the game rounds. They
are also licensed on a separate license from the casinos to ensure that their games are fair and random (I mean, a game can't be completely random as it's an algorithm,
but I doubt even Rainman would have a chance here). Starburst (popular game) at BitStarz is the same game as the one you play in other casinos as well, leased from
the same company who made the game.

I know in this forum, BitStarz gets a fair share of bad reviews, but in many other places, we get very good reviews. If you google any casino out there followed by the word "scam",
I'm sure you'll find plenty, and it's up to you as a player who to believe and not to believe.

When it comes to affiliate sites, you'll find reviews of some that like us, and some that don't. Same goes for all casinos too. Some are ranked high, some are ranked low, and when
it comes to AskGamblers, we do receive our fair share of Complaints there too, which we have to defend fairly. I'm normally the person deailing with such complaints, and if you
read through them, I'm sure you can see that AskGamblers are far from always on my side.

I try to be as active here as I possibly can, and I'm sure there are plenty of people here that might have disagreements with us, but I'd really appreciate if you guys would
dedicate this thread for any questions you might about BitStarz, but perhaps also about Casino Online in General. I've worked for plenty of different casinos and suppliers
and I'd like to think that I've at least learned something over the years.

So, if there's anything you guys always wanted to know (doesn't have to be BitStarz related), I'd be happy to give my very honest opinion about it. I'm sure you guys are rational
people who'd like to get as much information as possible, and I'm happy to explain.

Olle

Edit: I think I found your profile at BitStarz based on your username here. If you want to discuss any details regarding your game history openly here, I'm happy to do so. But I wouldn't
want to discuss it without getting your permission. This would of course not be anything in relation to your personal details, but simply game play. Let me know

To begin, a friend of mine and myself have had very little luck at bitstarz - it's probably the worst I've ever seen slots payout (i mean making like 25 spins without a single line payout). I know this means nothing at all, but my friend has used them for quite a while and seems to think something is very odd there.. Anyway, deciding to do abit of research i first wanted to take a look at these HUGE million dollar wins. I thought if they are happy making these big wins why i have no luck making tiny bets.. I decided to have a chat with the staff to simply ask if they could provide a hotwallet / transaction wallet they used for bitcoin as most casino sites have no reason to hide this and many seem to offer it on there site anyway. I was told this is an odd question and if i am asking about legitimacy to simply look up there reviews. After a long chat it ended with being told he doesn't have this information anyway. (i have the transcript of this chat). I could be wrong but i wouldnt have thought something like that would be a big deal? I just wanted to see these huge payouts for myself on the blockchain. Anyway, as for reviews - i had already done that, and there seems to be so many people backing them, and that they do payout etc. But also, leaving many questions to remain.

First stop is there licensing https://game-protect.com/curacao-license-scam/.As listed,They fall under this category to start with..

And personally iv always had a feeling that site's like askgamblers are affiliated or on the payroll of most site's they have listed anyway - as most the players reviews are by one hit wonder accounts and mostly running in locations that prohibit gambling to begin with, Most legit casino's should not even allow players in these prohibited countries to begin with? And alot of comments listed here : https://www.worldcasinoindex.com/online-casinos/bitstarz-review/ backup alot of my theories and alot of the negative reviews here..

In summary - i am not calling them a scam. I know they payout, but to what extent is my question.. I have sat and watched the recent winners list for a fair while over different time periods and see nothing close to being decent, and for such a heavy traffic site very few different names popping up. Myself and my friend have managed to have bad luck never seen before (Again, means nothing i know.) And after my chat which i was declined to see a hotwallet address and the response i was giving rather surprised me. A lot of comments people have made that people seem to reject and jump on making such accusations, a fair few similar things have personally happen between myself and my friend but ill leave these out.