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Quote from: suchmoon on December 03, 2015, 11:06:15 PM

Quote from: wheellocks on December 03, 2015, 11:00:39 PM

@suchmoon I know you don't care, because you a major part of the gaw period and came out clean and now are always on the offensive. Enjoy bashing away with your crew, no one listens to you guys anyway.

You do. You just can't force yourself to click that ignore button. Now please find (or create) an appropriate thread and post your GAW stuff there. Make sure to post proof of me being "major part of the gaw" or whatever you're trying to say there (punctuation isn't your strongest skill, is it?).

Back to topic if I may so suggest. Who controls ~50% of the non-premined BitStone coin supply? Any guesses?

I was thinking you also said this you dumbass

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Quote from: suchmoon on December 04, 2015, 08:57:17 PM

Quote from: dbt1033 on December 04, 2015, 08:50:38 PM

They say it on their page. Mastertrader777 is the lead developer. But he's admitted that he doesn't code before. He outsources development work.

This page is kind of embarrassing with all of the bad grammar and such.

That's the old page, hasn't been updated since version 1 (stillborn). I wouldn't assume Mastertrader777 is still involved unless he decides to confirm himself. Not sure why he would commit source code under the name of "Kieth Harville".

Why don't we ask him in the Mastertrader thread? If he says he is not, then Keith definitely lied.

But I'm telling you, he is. He and BitStoneDev have identical vocabularies / writing styles.

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Quote from: suchmoon on December 04, 2015, 08:54:46 PM

Quote from: bensam12345 on December 04, 2015, 08:46:34 PM

OK Paul, I will keep this simple.
Suchmoon stated that the entity has 50% of the coins and could fork the coin. (That is wrong, the wallet he showed had about 45-46%) therefore could not fork the coin.

you responded "whocares about the forking?"

Your response is diverting the attention away from the fact that Suchmoon PURPOSEFULLY lied about the percentage to show it could be forked - or rounded it up to have more shock value.

Therefore you are involved in misleading, misrepresenting and lying by diverting the attention away from a now PROVEN liar

Bullshit. Learn to read. Exact quote:

Quote from: suchmoon on December 04, 2015, 12:30:49 AM

Ok, let me rephrase: a single entity. Doesn't really make any difference. Actually if it's a "group" that makes it probably more dangerous, less predictable, etc. But that's not the point.

Someone acquiring this amount of coins reeks of inside knowledge. Therefore negating the "no-premine" argument being repeated by BitStoneDev.

Even if it's not an inside job it's still a huge risk to bagholders. Even 10% of that amount would pretty much destroy Bittrex order books.

Even if it's not an inside job and doesn't get dumped in large quantities it's still a risk to the network - that "entity" could likely fork the coin at will.

That's just a few red flags from one address. How many flags would you say is the minimum to consider that something might not be entirely above board?

COULD LIKELY FORK - for example if they had another 5% in another address perhaps?

But good job ignoring the rest of that post.

Another stellar theory

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Quote from: dbt1033 on December 04, 2015, 08:50:38 PM

They say it on their page. Mastertrader777 is the lead developer. But he's admitted that he doesn't code before. He outsources development work.

This page is kind of embarrassing with all of the bad grammar and such.

That's the old page, hasn't been updated since version 1 (stillborn). I wouldn't assume Mastertrader777 is still involved unless he decides to confirm himself. Not sure why he would commit source code under the name of "Kieth Harville".

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Quote from: suchmoon on December 04, 2015, 08:41:45 PM

Quote from: bensam12345 on December 04, 2015, 07:44:39 PM

I see the village idiots are still hard at work. Thanks for the update last night. Look forward to seeing more and placing an order.

Just for the record - Suchmoon stated and owlcats reiterated the 50% of coins held by a person or group. Then suchmoon explains all the dangers of having 51% of the coins. Then he leads everyone on a wild goose chase about 8000 coins in wallets.

2 quick points that have been stated but not responded to-

1- 205,000 is about 45-46% of the coins - but if he stated that fact he would have no basis for his accusations - only implications
2- have you linked the 8000 coin wallets and the 200,000 coin wallet or is that another one of your theories with no basis

suchmoon - Paul revere - court of law

Find something - manipulate it - come up with an idea - then go find more useless info to back up claims - rinse and repeat

A 51% attack is ONE OF potential threats I mentioned and only really matters if the controlling entity is not BitStoneDev (because BitStoneDev presumably can fork the coin anyway since he controls the source code and has the deal with Bittrex).

But yeah ~46% is so much better than ~50%. I'm sorry for asking the wrong question. Let me rephrase - is anyone at all concerned that a single entity controls ~46% of the total coin supply? Any good ideas? Any thoughts on whether dumping ~46% would be less dangerous to the coin than dumping ~50%? Anything else positive about this?

There was only one address I posted. It had 200k coins in it on November 29 and 205k total received. Which part of this has no basis? Did you even look at the block explorer yourself? It doesn't seem like you did.

Yes I have looked at the block Explorer - what I noticed is that if I follow all of your crazy ass theories - which now includes the 8000 coin wallets- I would need to investigate all of the wallets-

You are bringing up a lot of fair points- but you are lacking one thing suchmoon - A STATEMENT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GOING ON... Instead you and the goon squad have spent 30+ pages pointing out a bunch of worthless shit.

So I ask, can anyone of you make an actual statement of facts that includes your theory of what is going on and actually commit to it. All I hear is a bunch of bullshitting by Paul and a bunch of pointing out facts by suchmoon and NOT A SINGLE COMMITMENT to actially putting together a well thought out explanation of any of it

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Quote from: Paul Revere on December 04, 2015, 08:55:07 PM

Quote from: dbt1033 on December 04, 2015, 08:50:38 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on December 04, 2015, 08:49:15 PM

Quote from: dbt1033 on December 04, 2015, 08:25:25 PM

By the way guys...BitStoneDev is Mastertrader777.

How do you know that? Is Mastertrader777 using that account exclusively? In the old thread they mentioned that it was a shared account between Mastertrader777 and "Kieth". Which made it awfully confusing to figure out who's responsible for what. I doubt Mastertrader777 is posting those pictures of Avalons and whatnot, unless you're saying that Mastertrader777 is actually "Kieth".

But of course none of the bagholders should be at all concerned that two "reputable" members such as Mastertrader777 and kilo17 are using a throwaway noob account to peddle this coin and are carefully avoiding to associate their main accounts with it. No worries, just more FUD Roll Eyes

They say it on their page. Mastertrader777 is the lead developer. But he's admitted that he doesn't code before. He outsources development work.

Ahh, and Keith made a move to Nashville, which explains the rent-a-office dealio there. Good digging, thanks for posting this.

Yes sir. Rich Territo is Mastertrader777.

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Quote from: dbt1033 on December 04, 2015, 08:50:38 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on December 04, 2015, 08:49:15 PM

Quote from: dbt1033 on December 04, 2015, 08:25:25 PM

By the way guys...BitStoneDev is Mastertrader777.

How do you know that? Is Mastertrader777 using that account exclusively? In the old thread they mentioned that it was a shared account between Mastertrader777 and "Kieth". Which made it awfully confusing to figure out who's responsible for what. I doubt Mastertrader777 is posting those pictures of Avalons and whatnot, unless you're saying that Mastertrader777 is actually "Kieth".

But of course none of the bagholders should be at all concerned that two "reputable" members such as Mastertrader777 and kilo17 are using a throwaway noob account to peddle this coin and are carefully avoiding to associate their main accounts with it. No worries, just more FUD Roll Eyes

They say it on their page. Mastertrader777 is the lead developer. But he's admitted that he doesn't code before. He outsources development work.

Ahh, and Keith made a move to Nashville, which explains the rent-a-office dealio there. Good digging, thanks for posting this.

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Quote from: bensam12345 on December 04, 2015, 08:46:34 PM

OK Paul, I will keep this simple.
Suchmoon stated that the entity has 50% of the coins and could fork the coin. (That is wrong, the wallet he showed had about 45-46%) therefore could not fork the coin.

you responded "whocares about the forking?"

Your response is diverting the attention away from the fact that Suchmoon PURPOSEFULLY lied about the percentage to show it could be forked - or rounded it up to have more shock value.

Therefore you are involved in misleading, misrepresenting and lying by diverting the attention away from a now PROVEN liar

Bullshit. Learn to read. Exact quote:

Quote from: suchmoon on December 04, 2015, 12:30:49 AM

Ok, let me rephrase: a single entity. Doesn't really make any difference. Actually if it's a "group" that makes it probably more dangerous, less predictable, etc. But that's not the point.

Someone acquiring this amount of coins reeks of inside knowledge. Therefore negating the "no-premine" argument being repeated by BitStoneDev.

Even if it's not an inside job it's still a huge risk to bagholders. Even 10% of that amount would pretty much destroy Bittrex order books.

Even if it's not an inside job and doesn't get dumped in large quantities it's still a risk to the network - that "entity" could likely fork the coin at will.

That's just a few red flags from one address. How many flags would you say is the minimum to consider that something might not be entirely above board?

COULD LIKELY FORK - for example if they had another 5% in another address perhaps?

But good job ignoring the rest of that post.

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Quote from: bensam12345 on December 04, 2015, 08:46:34 PM

Quote from: Paul Revere on December 04, 2015, 08:17:24 PM

Quote from: bensam12345 on December 04, 2015, 08:11:19 PM

Quote from: dbt1033 on December 04, 2015, 08:01:01 PM

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Quote from: owlcatz on December 04, 2015, 07:53:47 PM

Quote from: wheellocks on December 04, 2015, 07:45:54 PM

Sorry owlman, suchmoon said there was a ~50% bagholder, he never proved who it was.

All that you see on the blockchain is that it is in an address, so who does it belong to?

Since then I have seen nothing but accusations and conspiracy theories, no actual proof of any person.

Once he tells me who it belongs to, then I can respond with my answer. Plus it's not my coin. I don't have any coin that I developed, I have coins that I have invested in a portfolio if that's what your 3rd grade vocabulary is trying to convey.

Also when you say "You all asked for questions" ...I don't recall asking many questions about the coin, I remember saying I think its a nice idea and a breath of fresh air, and am looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

Your fudster crew is asking all sorts of wild questions...please get your facts straight.

There was no burden to prove who owns the address, there never was. You completely miss the point, just like all you shit coiners. Grin

Edit have fun holding those bags after Keith dumps the premine on you all... LOL! Cool

a third village idiot-
1 - show me ANY address at ANYTIME that has held 50% or more of the coins -
2- show me ANY evidence on the blockchain of a Premine

Dumb ass

Easy. It's on the blockchain. I'll do it when I get home from work if someone else hasn't already. But I tracked it last night and can confirm that this is true.

Ok- looking forward to seeing a wallet with 50% or more of the coins. Remember that suchmoons idea that it can be forked because 50%+ of the coins are controlled by a group or individual only applies to more than 50%, not 45%. I assume suchmoon used the ~ sign to show it was about 50% but anything less cannot fork the network. So what I see is another attempt to distort facts to prove a weak theory.

Btw- don't forget to show that Premine -

Who cares about the forking? The fucking is more of a concern about one entity having that much coin.

OK Paul, I will keep this simple.
Suchmoon stated that the entity has 50% of the coins and could fork the coin. (That is wrong, the wallet he showed had about 45-46%) therefore could not fork the coin.

you responded "whocares about the forking?"

Your response is diverting the attention away from the fact that Suchmoon PURPOSEFULLY lied about the percentage to show it could be forked - or rounded it up to have more shock value.

Therefore you are involved in misleading, misrepresenting and lying by diverting the attention away from a now PROVEN liar

Incorrect, sir. My response was my honest response and nothing more. That makes a second lie you have now accused me of. I will now kindly ask that you please prove these baseless and harmful accusations.