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Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 22, 2021, 07:10:33 AM

He loses his reputation for not keeping his promises

Actually he does not Lose reputation because of Not keeping promises but for Ignoring His obligations instead.

He is acting in his promise when he says paying when he made a post , but that will happen months after the supposedly pay time.

Isn't that sort of the same? I mean his promises are his obligations as well. What is your obligation as a casino owner? You promised to pay your signature wearers their amount and then you need to pay that, that's your obligation to pay but it is also your promise as well. If people put money in your casino, they should be able to withdraw it with hot wallet filled enough, that is your obligation but casinos promise that you can withdraw whenever you want.

Moreover, I would say that it is very important to have this kind of thing, it is both obligation AND promise at the same time. I can't say if you could do something without getting people give up hope about this place. Lightlord managed to build a big big big reputation over course of many years, and then managed to destroy it within 6 months, that is the quickest someone destroyed such a huge reputation if you ask me (at least in crypto).

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 22, 2021, 07:10:33 AM

He loses his reputation for not keeping his promises

Actually he does not Lose reputation because of Not keeping promises but for Ignoring His obligations instead.

He is acting in his promise when he says paying when he made a post , but that will happen months after the supposedly pay time.

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he has a lot of red tags and neutral tags already coming from trusted members of this forum, now if there are new complaints coming there will be a flag created for this, his action is still tolerable as long as players can withdraw their money and there's no complaint coming he is still ok, but the two projects are now vulnerable because of Lighlord inactivity and failure to address some issues.

Giving flag or not will not change anything that he mistreated His players and also His advertisers .

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on November 22, 2021, 04:52:54 PM

i sincerely wish for lightlord to be out of the woods already.

but checking back the bitvest's bankroll, it hasn't declined much. the last time i checked was about 341BTC, if i remember it correctly and now it is 338BTC, it has been weeks and a lot were thinking that it will go down hard but it seems it stops to this level. with this amount, it means, there are still players that are trusting this site and not many casinos can have this amt of bankroll. and their withdrawal from the site seems working as well.

Remember Bitvest is already 8 years old there are loyal players who are playing here ever since it started and they have over 5 years of promotion they are stable and trusted over the years and they have taken care of business, as long as they are concentrating on operating the site and addressing all issues they are going to be fine, the signature is the only one that is not yet settled but so far those participants are still waiting for an announcement.

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Quote from: GbitG on November 22, 2021, 01:54:55 PM

Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 22, 2021, 07:10:33 AM

He loses his reputation for not keeping his promises he has a lot of red tags and neutral tags already coming from trusted members of this forum, now if there are new complaints coming there will be a flag created for this, his action is still tolerable as long as players can withdraw their money and there's no complaint coming he is still ok, but the two projects are now vulnerable because of Lighlord inactivity and failure to address some issues.

Here we have all details about this situation which is clearly indicating that he is not good and having some serious issues regarding his health which is more important than his reputation he is very old pal here in this community with very early adopter and having very good skills to running few sites and other projects, but suddenly his situation is not good for anyone. Right now he needs some best wishes and prayers from us, hopefully he will get well soon and again back here in this community for clearing all allegations and other issues related to him and his projects.

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]Unfortunately, I have fallen quite ill, and have been fighting for my life for the last 2 months. I had an adverse reaction to the second vaccine, and wasn't able to eat much, and struggling a lot. My weight dropped nearly 15 pounds in one month. Pretty much a skeleton, but I seem to be getting better over time. I am better than I was a month ago, and I should be able to return things back to semi-normal on things. I will process the campaign payments out, and try to address the late withdrawals, to get that back to more normal times.

i sincerely wish for lightlord to be out of the woods already.

but checking back the bitvest's bankroll, it hasn't declined much. the last time i checked was about 341BTC, if i remember it correctly and now it is 338BTC, it has been weeks and a lot were thinking that it will go down hard but it seems it stops to this level. with this amount, it means, there are still players that are trusting this site and not many casinos can have this amt of bankroll. and their withdrawal from the site seems working as well.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 22, 2021, 07:10:33 AM

He loses his reputation for not keeping his promises he has a lot of red tags and neutral tags already coming from trusted members of this forum, now if there are new complaints coming there will be a flag created for this, his action is still tolerable as long as players can withdraw their money and there's no complaint coming he is still ok, but the two projects are now vulnerable because of Lighlord inactivity and failure to address some issues.

Here we have all details about this situation which is clearly indicating that he is not good and having some serious issues regarding his health which is more important than his reputation he is very old pal here in this community with very early adopter and having very good skills to running few sites and other projects, but suddenly his situation is not good for anyone. Right now he needs some best wishes and prayers from us, hopefully he will get well soon and again back here in this community for clearing all allegations and other issues related to him and his projects.

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]Unfortunately, I have fallen quite ill, and have been fighting for my life for the last 2 months. I had an adverse reaction to the second vaccine, and wasn't able to eat much, and struggling a lot. My weight dropped nearly 15 pounds in one month. Pretty much a skeleton, but I seem to be getting better over time. I am better than I was a month ago, and I should be able to return things back to semi-normal on things. I will process the campaign payments out, and try to address the late withdrawals, to get that back to more normal times.

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He loses his reputation for not keeping his promises he has a lot of red tags and neutral tags already coming from trusted members of this forum, now if there are new complaints coming there will be a flag created for this, his action is still tolerable as long as players can withdraw their money and there's no complaint coming he is still ok, but the two projects are now vulnerable because of Lighlord inactivity and failure to address some issues.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on November 20, 2021, 04:49:59 AM

Well you may be right but everyone is deserve to spend their money in gambling even if this is hard earned , though the point is that a Casino who had been running for years and has no issue at all is a trusted casino so people tend to play from here and there , but the attitude of the owner changed the game as He starts being irresponsible and not giving any reason for the issues affecting the gambler and the site, but instead all he cares is the constant incoming funds to his pocket.

This is the problem here, this place was a wonderful gambling place that everyone loved to play, it was seen one of the earliest and most successful crypto casino places. It was so great that it literally made other people see that it is possible to build a casino that could be great in the crypto world. They gained this reputation and credibility that allowed them to grow and make a lot of money.

One of the other smart ways they used their money was spending a lot less than most other places for their signature campaign but at the same time they kept it going for years instead of doing it for just few weeks. This way they grew to be huge. However for the past year or so Lightlord became more and more absent and because the system is built to only work when he is online things got a lot worse. Now the old reputation is fighting the new reputation.

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Quote from: decodx on November 19, 2021, 06:10:34 PM

Quote from: MrcMrc on November 19, 2021, 04:58:16 PM

We should all give Light lord a break until he comes back to announced the returned of the signature campaign, the delayed announcement may be as a result of too much workload on Lightlord.

Why should you care? I doubt that any bounty manager will ever select you again in any legitimate campaign on this forum.

And what does this statement have to do with a signature campaign? Nobody likes the fact that a community goes unanswered for such a long time, especially since there is probably a lot of money at stake. Unfortunately, in everyone's life there may be situations that do not allow you to function normally for some time. I also think Lightlord has built so much confidence on Bitcointalk that we should give him some time.

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Quote from: aioc on November 15, 2021, 05:29:53 AM

I agree this is a gambling business, a gambling site can pay their players for 5 years and when he stopped paying for a week to the majority of his players he will lose the reputation he build over the years, we are talking money here, we are investing our money and if we are going to lose it, we have to lose it in a fair manner, we have to deal any investment site or gambling casino based on their present status.

Yes , People are risking their Money to gamble when they are depositing hard earned money and play , but when they are being denied in withdrawing like what had happened many times in Bitvest that the Hot Wallet has been emptied then this will hurt the gambler as well as the reputation of the owner and the team behind the site.

Well they should not gamble their hard earned money since it will double the pressure they get if problem will occur since its like they lose everything if something shit happens to the casino where they deposit their hard earned money but since troubles always happen on here maybe its time for their gamblers to think twice upon depositing their money on this casino since it looks like bitvest cannot sustain their platform anymore.

And also looks like they are not moderating this thread since no representative clarifies the confusion of the people here.

Well you may be right but everyone is deserve to spend their money in gambling even if this is hard earned , though the point is that a Casino who had been running for years and has no issue at all is a trusted casino so people tend to play from here and there , but the attitude of the owner changed the game as He starts being irresponsible and not giving any reason for the issues affecting the gambler and the site, but instead all he cares is the constant incoming funds to his pocket.

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Quote from: decodx on November 19, 2021, 06:10:34 PM

Quote from: MrcMrc on November 19, 2021, 04:58:16 PM

We should all give Light lord a break until he comes back to announced the returned of the signature campaign, the delayed announcement may be as a result of too much workload on Lightlord.

Why should you care? I doubt that any bounty manager will ever select you again in any legitimate campaign on this forum.

Probably he did not know that lighlord just come out from getting sick of the vaccine, it's better for Lighlord to make one last announcement here and lock this thread about his health in general about the campaign status and about who will manage this thread and how and where players can reach them if there are issues, this thread has become a speculation thread, things are not getting anywhere and there's uncertainty.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 19, 2021, 04:58:16 PM

We should all give Light lord a break until he comes back to announced the returned of the signature campaign, the delayed announcement may be as a result of too much workload on Lightlord.

Why should you care? I doubt that any bounty manager will ever select you again in any legitimate campaign on this forum.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on November 19, 2021, 04:58:16 PM

We should all give Light lord a break until he comes back to announced the returned of the signature campaign, the delayed announcement may be as a result of too much workload on Lightlord.

The community has given him all the time the community will understand if he is not logged in almost daily, but he is with us almost every day but not announcing anything, he can just announce that the campaign and the participants who still wearing the signature will stop hoping, the good thing is all participants have received their payout up to the last cents and there's no serious allegation on his two casinos I wish him good health and hopefully he will be active here again.

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We should all give Light lord a break until he comes back to announced the returned of the signature campaign, the delayed announcement may be as a result of too much workload on Lightlord.

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Quote from: dustboy on November 08, 2021, 04:30:40 PM

Few months ago I saw that the average BTC bankroll is more than 1000btc and few weeks ago it was down to 600BTC+ and now it is lower than 350BTC. Is it an effect of the current lightlord's situation so the investors decide to withdraw their investment because they are afraid of something or is it due to the current btc price so they withdraw the investment to be sold?

It may happen for various reason but the main reason could be the price volatile of bitcoin. Lightlord's situation might be the another reason too. Though there is multiple reason behind it still it is not a good sign for bitvest as well as lightlord.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on November 15, 2021, 06:16:22 AM

Quote from: aioc on November 15, 2021, 05:29:53 AM

I agree this is a gambling business, a gambling site can pay their players for 5 years and when he stopped paying for a week to the majority of his players he will lose the reputation he build over the years, we are talking money here, we are investing our money and if we are going to lose it, we have to lose it in a fair manner, we have to deal any investment site or gambling casino based on their present status.

Yes , People are risking their Money to gamble when they are depositing hard earned money and play , but when they are being denied in withdrawing like what had happened many times in Bitvest that the Hot Wallet has been emptied then this will hurt the gambler as well as the reputation of the owner and the team behind the site.

Well they should not gamble their hard earned money since it will double the pressure they get if problem will occur since its like they lose everything if something shit happens to the casino where they deposit their hard earned money but since troubles always happen on here maybe its time for their gamblers to think twice upon depositing their money on this casino since it looks like bitvest cannot sustain their platform anymore.

And also looks like they are not moderating this thread since no representative clarifies the confusion of the people here.

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I have faced death recently, not actually death itself but the value of life and how fragile we are and how death is almost always around the corner, things are not as forever as we imagine. You do not go around your life thinking you may die any moment because we would go crazy if we do that, but that is the reality.

In a world so fragile, so finite, lightlord thinking he should be the only one to hold the keys and he should be the only one who manages this place shows one clear thing to me; the moment he decides he doesn't want to go on, or the moment he can't then this website will be gone and all of our money deposited here will be gone with it. He doesn't care because he will be gone, why would he care, he didn't scam anyone, he just ... gone. So, if you are worried about your money, then I would say do not deposit any amount you are not willing to lose, only amounts you consider gone as soon as you deposit.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on November 15, 2021, 01:25:53 PM

He is running this as a business for very long time so it should be professional in all the aspects no matter he is a big whale and accumulated hundreds or millions of Bitcoins in the early stage, I just wanted to say he should clarify things then only he can retain the reputation which took almost a decade to built.

This is what I agree with.
In recent years, we've lost some very popular and long-lasting gambling platforms, such as YoloDice, Luckybit, and BetBTC. That's nothing unusual in gambling world. However, the owners of these platforms acted properly in such a situation and took the right steps. They announced the closure in time, provided deadlines for withdrawals of all user funds, and only then closed the doors and left the forum.

No matter whether lightlord wants to continue running his casino or not, it would be wise to inform the customers about his intentions.

Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 15, 2021, 12:13:33 PM

I think his point was that there is no need to speculate about his health...

You were mistaken. We talked about his wealth, not his health.

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Quote from: Findingnemo on November 15, 2021, 01:25:53 PM

Quote from: decodx on November 15, 2021, 11:46:00 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on November 15, 2021, 09:39:15 AM

Discussing about his personal wealth should be avoided because its completely irrelevant to the topic.

How do you differentiate between his personal wealth and his business balance sheets? If I remember correctly, I think I saw somewhere that he made his cold storage addresses public, so it's not a secret.

He is running this as a business for very long time so it should be professional in all the aspects no matter he is a big whale and accumulated hundreds or millions of Bitcoins in the early stage, I just wanted to say he should clarify things then only he can retain the reputation which took almost a decade to built.

Building your reputation to the community would take years and years to establish.
But it is up to the person himself how he will take care of such reputation.
Now, it is up to the players/investors how they will react on situation like this.
Are they going to stick to the business or just move on and find another platform?

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Quote from: decodx on November 15, 2021, 11:46:00 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on November 15, 2021, 09:39:15 AM

Discussing about his personal wealth should be avoided because its completely irrelevant to the topic.

How do you differentiate between his personal wealth and his business balance sheets? If I remember correctly, I think I saw somewhere that he made his cold storage addresses public, so it's not a secret.

He is running this as a business for very long time so it should be professional in all the aspects no matter he is a big whale and accumulated hundreds or millions of Bitcoins in the early stage, I just wanted to say he should clarify things then only he can retain the reputation which took almost a decade to built.

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Quote from: decodx on November 15, 2021, 11:46:00 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on November 15, 2021, 09:39:15 AM

Discussing about his personal wealth should be avoided because its completely irrelevant to the topic.

How do you differentiate between his personal wealth and his business balance sheets? If I remember correctly, I think I saw somewhere that he made his cold storage addresses public, so it's not a secret.

I think his point was that there is no need to speculate about his health. The situation should be clarified by officially announcing why such situations occur. If someone is serious about their business, they should also be serious about their customers.

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