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libertaad

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Quote from: Ignas24 on May 25, 2013, 04:03:59 AM

I was about to upload a video that i'm not lieing

Happy to help in fiding an issue

And my username is Ignas .

I believed you! As soon as I read your post, I knew it had to be because of the change we made to our assets today. Thanks for helping us catch it early! A 1 BTC comp has been added to your account as our way of saying thanks!

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Quote from: libertaad on May 25, 2013, 03:51:48 AM

Quote from: Ignas24 on May 25, 2013, 03:27:05 AM

Hello, i don't know why but when i want to verify that the game is provably fair and i press verify button, nothing happens... Is it just me or this problem is for everyone?

Also, i tried doing that with diferent browsers and it didnt help.

Oh crap, it looks like this was a javascript bug that we introduced today. It has now been fixed. All provably fair functionality was unaffected, only the javascript on the javascript hand verifier was affected.

The technical reason for the problem: we recently moved all of our static assets to be served from assets.bitzino.com (for speed reasons), however we failed to move the assets required by the javascript hand verifier (sha256.js and MersenneTwister19937.js). Now that we've added these files, the javascript bug is no longer present.

Can you let me know your bitZino username? I'll add a comp to your account for helping us find this issue!

I was about to upload a video that i'm not lieing

Happy to help in finding an issue

And my username is Ignas .

libertaad

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Quote from: Ignas24 on May 25, 2013, 03:27:05 AM

Hello, i don't know why but when i want to verify that the game is provably fair and i press verify button, nothing happens... Is it just me or this problem is for everyone?

Also, i tried doing that with diferent browsers and it didnt help.

Oh crap, it looks like this was a javascript bug that we introduced today. It has now been fixed. All provably fair functionality was unaffected, only the javascript on the javascript hand verifier was affected.

The technical reason for the problem: we recently moved all of our static assets to be served from assets.bitzino.com (for speed reasons), however we failed to move the assets required by the javascript hand verifier (sha256.js and MersenneTwister19937.js). Now that we've added these files, the javascript bug is no longer present.

Can you let me know your bitZino username? I'll add a comp to your account for helping us find this issue!

Ignas24

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Hello, i don't know why but when i want to verify that the game is provably fair and i press verify button, nothing happens... Is it just me or this problem is for everyone?

Also, i tried doing that with diferent browsers and it didnt help.

dooglus

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Quote from: libertaad on May 17, 2013, 02:06:13 PM

Thanks for always testing with slow internet!

I don't have a whole lot of choice. There's no copper, fibre optic, or cell phone coverage here, so I have to bounce every packet off a satellite. In space!

Quote from: libertaad on May 17, 2013, 02:06:13 PM

I think for now, we are going to not make this change though. We implemented this change internally, but then saw that it can see it lead to confusion about exactly what hand you're changing the bet size for (especially if you're only somewhat paying attention while you play). Keeping the bet boxes disabled until the next hand has officially started avoids this confusion, and it is also consistent with our other games.

That's fine.

Quote from: libertaad on May 17, 2013, 02:06:13 PM

Thanks, Dooglus, for the continued help in improving our product! I've comped your account with another 0.1 BTC. As always, let us know any more feedback you have!

No problem. It feels good to be able to give feedback to a site and have it listened to, and usually acted upon and deployed within 24h. You're pretty much unique in that respect in my experience. Thanks for the comp.

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Quote from: dooglus on May 16, 2013, 07:39:54 PM

I'm running out of things to complain about again. Just two small niggles:

I'd like to be able to adjust my bet size for the next game while "folding" the current game. It takes long enough to fold with my slow internet connection that I often find myself hovering over the bet size adjustment buttons waiting for them to become active again. They could be activated client-side before sending the 'fold' message to the server I expect?

Thanks for always testing with slow internet! I think for now, we are going to not make this change though. We implemented this change internally, but then saw that it can see it lead to confusion about exactly what hand you're changing the bet size for (especially if you're only somewhat paying attention while you play). Keeping the bet boxes disabled until the next hand has officially started avoids this confusion, and it is also consistent with our other games.

Quote from: dooglus on May 16, 2013, 07:39:54 PM

Also, I'm used to being able to click the '1/2' button over and over to reset the bet to 1. That's how it works on blackjack; clicking 1/2 when the bet is 1 leaves it at 1. But in three card poker half of 1 is 0. (And twice 0 is 1). I think I'd prefer half 1 to be 1. I can always used the '-' button if I want to go from 1 to 0. Then it's more consistent across the games.

This is a good suggestion! We have went ahead and implemented this change.

Thanks, Dooglus, for the continued help in improving our product! I've comped your account with another 0.1 BTC. As always, let us know any more feedback you have!

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I'm running out of things to complain about again. Just two small niggles:

I'd like to be able to adjust my bet size for the next game while "folding" the current game. It takes long enough to fold with my slow internet connection that I often find myself hovering over the bet size adjustment buttons waiting for them to become active again. They could be activated client-side before sending the 'fold' message to the server I expect?

Also, I'm used to being able to click the '1/2' button over and over to reset the bet to 1. That's how it works on blackjack; clicking 1/2 when the bet is 1 leaves it at 1. But in three card poker half of 1 is 0. (And twice 0 is 1). I think I'd prefer half 1 to be 1. I can always used the '-' button if I want to go from 1 to 0. Then it's more consistent across the games.

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Quote from: dooglus on May 16, 2013, 12:45:34 AM

Quote from: libertaad on May 15, 2013, 06:00:37 PM

3 Card Poker:
Max bet: 25 BTC
House edge (Pairplus): 2.14%
House edge (Ante): 3.28%

Wasn't the edge 3.28% before you added the "player wins ties" rule? I'd expect it to drop a little with that change.

Ah, good call! That is the old figure. The true house edge for the Ante bet in our 3 Card Poker is 3.15%. I have also gone and edited the previous post so that it's correct.

Quote from: Ignas24 on May 16, 2013, 05:16:55 AM

I want to suggest one thing. It would be good if there would be a counter, which would show how much you won/lost per day. Ofcource you can calculate yourself by watching a balance, but this way would be more convenient for the player.

One way to get your win/loss is that you are always welcome to reach out to our support (https://bitzino.com/support) and request a hand-history log. One thing we've been thinking about is automating the hand-history report, so that you don't need to reach out to support in order to access it. This would also serve to make it easy for you to see your win/loss for a day.

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I want to suggest one thing. It would be good if there would be a counter, which would show how much you won/lost per day. Ofcource you can calculate yourself by watching a balance, but this way would be more convenient for the player.

dooglus

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Quote from: libertaad on May 15, 2013, 06:00:37 PM

Cool! I'll list out all our games' max bet and house edge below:

Thanks.

Quote from: libertaad on May 15, 2013, 06:00:37 PM

3 Card Poker:
Max bet: 25 BTC
House edge (Pairplus): 2.14%
House edge (Ante): 3.28%

Wasn't the edge 3.28% before you added the "player wins ties" rule? I'd expect it to drop a little with that change.

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some casinos let ties go to the player. The effect of this rule lowers the house edge in the "full pay" bonus table 1 above from 3.37% to 3.24%.

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Quote from: dooglus on May 15, 2013, 12:48:15 PM

I wonder if it would be helpful (for new players, especially) if you displayed the hand description before they act. That way you remove any confusion about whether A23 is a straight or not, for example - if it says "straight" under it, it's a straight.

This is a good suggestion. We've went ahead and implemented it.

Quote from: dooglus on May 15, 2013, 12:48:15 PM

I'm helping mem update his gambling list. The plan is to list games along with the max bet and house edge so players can easily compare them. Do you have 'official' figures for the house edges on the games you offer that you'd like listed? I'm thinking that in pretty much every case your games offer the lowest edge and highest max bet of all the bitcoin gaming sites (in part due to my nagging Wink

).

Cool! I'll list out all our games' max bet and house edge below:

Blackjack:
Max bet: 25 BTC
House edge: 0.39759%

Craps:
Max bet: 5 BTC per wager-type
House edge: 0.273%-2.778%. (Varies by wager-type. We've adjusted our rules from the standard payouts so that all wagers have less than 3% house edge.)

Roulette:
Max bet: 100 BTC overall, 5 BTC per number
House edge: 2.70%

Slots:
Max bet: 2 BTC per line (10 BTC overall)
House edge: 0.964%

3 Card Poker:
Max bet: 25 BTC
House edge (Pairplus): 2.14%
House edge (Ante): 3.15%

Video Poker:
Max bet: 2 BTC
House edge (Jacks or better): 0.456096%
House edge (Tens or better): 0.8612%
House edge (Deuces wild): 0.5821%
House edge (Bonus poker): 0.834%
House edge (Double Bonus Poker): 0.5169%
House edge (Dbl Dbl Bonus Poker): 0.5368%

The min bet for all our games is 1 μBTC (0.000001 BTC).

Hope that helps!

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Quote from: libertaad on May 15, 2013, 11:43:20 AM

Ok, you convinced us Cheesy

We've updated our rules so that ties go to the player.

We also updated how kickers are displayed, so that only relevant kickers are shown. I've gone in and added a 0.1 BTC comp to your account, Dooglus, to thank you for all the feedback. Keep it coming!

Thanks a lot for the comp. I think the way the hands are described looks better now. I wonder if it would be helpful (for new players, especially) if you displayed the hand description before they act. That way you remove any confusion about whether A23 is a straight or not, for example - if it says "straight" under it, it's a straight.

I'm helping mem update his gambling list. The plan is to list games along with the max bet and house edge so players can easily compare them. Do you have 'official' figures for the house edges on the games you offer that you'd like listed? I'm thinking that in pretty much every case your games offer the lowest edge and highest max bet of all the bitcoin gaming sites (in part due to my nagging Wink

).

libertaad

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Quote from: navaman on May 13, 2013, 03:41:59 PM

I like it a lot, very smooth. Just some Bitcoins now...

I'm glad you like it!

Quote from: IveBeenBit on May 13, 2013, 05:43:25 PM

I'm really happy to see a new game added! I like the ability to do "microgambling" at your site to learn new games so I'll know how to play different games when I find myself in a real casino.

Also...my first hand at 3 card poker and I was dealt a straight flush. Am I lucky, or is it rigged to get me hooked? Wink

I'm glad you're having fun! Sounds like you got quite lucky

We definitely don't manipulate any hands ever. Our 3 Card Poker game is provably fair just like all our other games!

Quote from: dooglus on May 13, 2013, 04:02:26 PM

Maybe it's worth mentioning in the rules what a 'mini royal' is. I didn't know, and had to look it up.

Apparently, "A Mini Royal is a suited AKQ". Plausibly it could have included suited KQJ and suited QJT, given that a regular royal is suited AKQJT.

Good call. We've added this clarification to the rules.

Quote from: dooglus on May 13, 2013, 04:02:26 PM

It looks like you've picked the most favourable paytables listed on wizardofodds.com for your game. I see they mention a variant where the player wins in the event of a tie, which gives about 0.13% less edge to the house. If you're looking to give better odds while still offering a vaguely standard game, that might be something to consider? But probably three card poker is rare enough in the Bitcoin world that you don't need to compete that hard.

Ok, you convinced us Cheesy

We've updated our rules so that ties go to the player.

We also updated how kickers are displayed, so that only relevant kickers are shown. I've gone in and added a 0.1 BTC comp to your account, Dooglus, to thank you for all the feedback. Keep it coming!

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Quote from: IveBeenBit on May 13, 2013, 05:43:25 PM

I'm really happy to see a new game added! I like the ability to do "microgambling" at your site to learn new games so I'll know how to play different games when I find myself in a real casino.

Also...my first hand at 3 card poker and I was dealt a straight flush. Am I lucky, or is it rigged to get me hooked? Wink

My girlfriend won over 32 BTC on one of her first hands of bitZino video poker for a 40 mBTC bet. If it's rigged they're doing it wrong, 'cos she's hardly been back since, having made out like a bandit and sold them all for the princely sum of $30 each. Doh.

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I'm really happy to see a new game added! I like the ability to do "microgambling" at your site to learn new games so I'll know how to play different games when I find myself in a real casino.

Also...my first hand at 3 card poker and I was dealt a straight flush. Am I lucky, or is it rigged to get me hooked? Wink

dooglus

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Maybe it's worth mentioning in the rules what a 'mini royal' is. I didn't know, and had to look it up.

Apparently, "A Mini Royal is a suited AKQ". Plausibly it could have included suited KQJ and suited QJT, given that a regular royal is suited AKQJT.

It looks like you've picked the most favourable paytables listed on wizardofodds.com for your game. I see they mention a variant where the player wins in the event of a tie, which gives about 0.13% less edge to the house. If you're looking to give better odds while still offering a vaguely standard game, that might be something to consider? But probably three card poker is rare enough in the Bitcoin world that you don't need to compete that hard.

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I like it a lot, very smooth. Just some Bitcoins now...

libertaad

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Quote from: dooglus on May 11, 2013, 07:29:24 PM

That's pretty slick. I can't find much to bitch about. Wink

The only thing I'm say is maybe only mention any kickers that are relevant. Who cares that I have a 6 and 2 kicker when my A high beat his K high?

Glad you like it!

I like your idea to not mention the irrelevant kickers. There's already a lot of text on the screen, so removing the unnecessary stuff will make it easier to parse what's going on. We'll implement this!

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 11, 2013, 07:50:58 PM

Love the 3 card poker!

Thanks!

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Love the 3 card poker!

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Quote from: libertaad on May 11, 2013, 03:33:51 PM

We decided to build this game purely because our users requested it. If you have any more suggestions about what to build next, or any other feedback, please let us know. We listen!

That's pretty slick. I can't find much to bitch about. Wink

The only thing I'd say is maybe only mention any kickers that are relevant. Who cares that I have a 6 and 2 kicker when my A high beat his K high?

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