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September 22, 2024, 10:17:48 PM
#77
OP, I can see you online from time to time, and yet the documents I requested still to be provided, more than ten days after I inquired it. I can understand if you feel reluctant to provide them, for whatever reason it is, but unfortunately, with the lack of new supporting evidence as required being provided, I have to revert to the only ones given to me, namely the one you gave BK8 and became the basis of their findings.

With this as the basis, unfortunately I have to say that I have to agree with the casino's decision, that there are questionable factors related to the documents you gave them.

I've give my best to give you benefit of doubts by asking you to provide other documents, and waited for more than one week, through multiple posts as reminder. I can wait rather indefinitely, but it won't be fair for the casino to have it dragged for too long, with their status marked as "in progress" or otherwise, while the current evidence shows they have the case concluded.

If you want to get this case retried with the current evidence, feel free to take my other suggestion that I am still widely open, to choose up to five DT1 [you can look at them here], of which I shall reach them and ask their readiness to verify what I've verified [the offer to cover every other thing and only made elements on my findings available is still also open for you to take], to maintain fairness.

Otherwise and until then, I am marking this case as resolved.



To the overseer of this case,

This is the first time I handled a case that goes so deep that I had to be the one who make a call. If I may repeat myself, it's kinda dropped into my plate. I didn't ask for this, but it is what it is. They provided me something and [in a way] called for my "duty" to the forum, of which I obliged.

I can't share the evidence publicly due to the private nature of the docs and [ironically, I have to borrow what casinos said about their detection method] to keep these alleged scammers from learning and improving themselves on forging KYC process, but if my words hold any water, I find that the elements on the KYC being submitted, of which I verify with my own DD, is indeed questionable.

I gave the player a chance to prove these findings wrong, perhaps just a mixture of unfortunate coincidences, by asking them to resubmit another docs that I can perhaps re-verify, and they indirectly refuse to do it.

I hope this call I made can be accepted as the final and closing words to this case.

Bro. Thank you very much for all. Aprreciate for your help. But let forget this. Players cant do anything to the scam site when the money lost.
The scammers stolent my money. And i cant get it back.
Iam not cheating, Fairplay. But i met the scammers. They dont want to pay for the winners. That is all.
Iam posting and run ad facebook to warning for all players in my country about this fucking site. BK8 scammers. That is all !
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September 22, 2024, 01:21:24 PM
#76
OP, I can see you online from time to time, and yet the documents I requested still to be provided, more than ten days after I inquired it. I can understand if you feel reluctant to provide them, for whatever reason it is, but unfortunately, with the lack of new supporting evidence as required being provided, I have to revert to the only ones given to me, namely the one you gave BK8 and became the basis of their findings.

With this as the basis, unfortunately I have to say that I have to agree with the casino's decision, that there are questionable factors related to the documents you gave them.

I've give my best to give you benefit of doubts by asking you to provide other documents, and waited for more than one week, through multiple posts as reminder. I can wait rather indefinitely, but it won't be fair for the casino to have it dragged for too long, with their status marked as "in progress" or otherwise, while the current evidence shows they have the case concluded.

If you want to get this case retried with the current evidence, feel free to take my other suggestion that I am still widely open, to choose up to five DT1 [you can look at them here], of which I shall reach them and ask their readiness to verify what I've verified [the offer to cover every other thing and only made elements on my findings available is still also open for you to take], to maintain fairness.

Otherwise and until then, I am marking this case as resolved.



To the overseer of this case,

This is the first time I handled a case that goes so deep that I had to be the one who make a call. If I may repeat myself, it's kinda dropped into my plate. I didn't ask for this, but it is what it is. They provided me something and [in a way] called for my "duty" to the forum, of which I obliged.

I can't share the evidence publicly due to the private nature of the docs and [ironically, I have to borrow what casinos said about their detection method] to keep these alleged scammers from learning and improving themselves on forging KYC process, but if my words hold any water, I find that the elements on the KYC being submitted, of which I verify with my own DD, is indeed questionable.

I gave the player a chance to prove these findings wrong, perhaps just a mixture of unfortunate coincidences, by asking them to resubmit another docs that I can perhaps re-verify, and they indirectly refuse to do it.

I hope this call I made can be accepted as the final and closing words to this case.
legendary
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September 17, 2024, 01:37:51 PM
#75
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Let's call these, the end of these dramas and bullshit.

After several calls, @OP only shouted without solving the allegation. He already got the chance 2-3x times by shoutout from me and you (already give your free time, to take a look at these). Just take the conclusion, BK8 Casino was correct. In a normal situation, me or other people who face this situation (If we do nothing wrong, we will surely try to get any resource we can get for at least the case to be solved or reviewed again). But, what he did just spamming those (I guess, cause he doesn't have any resources to denied the allegation).



Let's move one, and sure in next 3 month he will be gone from here. Just like usual case for account who attacking casino or crying because losing (for his case, he already faked it). The story is done now. Cause you already give your best shot, to call him or request hims several times and he can't do these.
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September 17, 2024, 01:21:18 PM
#74
OP, I noticed that you've been online from time to time, with last online activity was earlier today, and yet I am still to hear from you. Is there any problem from your side to produce a different set of photos as I requested?

I'll really appreciate to hear something from you, anything at all, that can help us understand these delays.
Hi bro. Thank you very much for your help.
But i think these Bk8  scammers wont solve this mess.
That is all

They want to, that's what they're trying to do by reaching to me and providing their findings and supporting evidence of their ruling. The ball is in your court now. I am asking you to provide other photo of that ID, to help me understand and be sure of what's really happening.

If you don't want to go with it, I am completely fine with that, I am not here to force someone to do what they don't want to. In fact, it's a less work for me as I can finally form my final opinion about the matter. But one thing that worth mentioning, with current situation and evidences I saw and read, the ones that I verified with my own [small] research, the casino has strong basis on their findings, and their ruling is justifiable.
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September 17, 2024, 12:43:09 PM
#73
So, with all the drama and long wait times, is this the end?
OP is unable to provide the proof, which is the new photos requested by @holydarkness

If OP cannot provide easy proof such as photo ASAP, it's a big red flag IMO. Let's say OP comes up with new photos but a week later, I may suspect that he doctored/manipulated/scammed the real ID holder. Anyway, I'm going to hear @holydarkness in this since he's the one who is willing to be bothered with mediation stuff. Such free service is rare and deserves a thumbs up.
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September 17, 2024, 07:44:48 AM
#72
OP, I noticed that you've been online from time to time, with last online activity was earlier today, and yet I am still to hear from you. Is there any problem from your side to produce a different set of photos as I requested?

I'll really appreciate to hear something from you, anything at all, that can help us understand these delays.
Hi bro. Thank you very much for your help.
But i think these Bk8  scammers wont solve this mess.
That is all
legendary
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September 16, 2024, 06:02:03 AM
#71
OP, I noticed that you've been online from time to time, with last online activity was earlier today, and yet I am still to hear from you. Is there any problem from your side to produce a different set of photos as I requested?

I'll really appreciate to hear something from you, anything at all, that can help us understand these delays.
legendary
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September 15, 2024, 09:25:55 AM
#70
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No, worry mate.

I will wait you for to get his response with his data, at least to finish these up. I'm not handling these, due to a player from BK8 not having a problem at all and satisfied with their service. IMO, better to be handle from third parties are not player or casino from BK8.

To make neutral and not defending each other on one side, good luck bro.
legendary
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September 15, 2024, 06:55:42 AM
#69
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In last post @OP.

Page Number 2, in the bottom you will see he sharing screenshot page BK8 with contains a balance 70,888 in the screenshot. Since the balance system in BK8 is a little bit different with other casino. They have estimation 1 : 1,000 (is also stated in their site).



Well, let's see about the progress. Did he sent it to you or not.

Ahh... my apology, I see that my post, quoting you in full, has a very huge chance of being misunderstood. I was meaning to refer to your latest sentence, of OP sending me another photo of their govt. ID, of which they're yet to do, the better [and snipped] quoted post should look like below,

[...] The important thing is not the balance, but the main topic about his KYC since now being asked to at least sent again with different angle + photoshoot but with the same info data ID from the data he was inputed during KYC to at least DT member.

Of which... still yet to be sent to me.

I don't want to jump into conclusion, so... OP, in case you missed the memo, I am still waiting for you to share me another image of your ID, of which I'll say it again and deliberately being redundant: I am not interested in the private nature of your ID and what sharing it with me entailed, I am simply interested to get things done and this case closed, to prove which side tells the truth and who tried to manipulate things.

I'll appreciate a very prompt reply, to eradicate any doubt.
legendary
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September 14, 2024, 04:30:59 PM
#68
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In last post @OP.

Page Number 2, in the bottom you will see he sharing screenshot page BK8 with contains a balance 70,888 in the screenshot. Since the balance system in BK8 is a little bit different with other casino. They have estimation 1 : 1,000 (is also stated in their site).



Well, let's see about the progress. Did he sent it to you or not.
legendary
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September 14, 2024, 12:46:38 PM
#67
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No need to verify, he already sent the image.

He has a balance of 70,888 VND in BK8. The balance setting in BK8:
1 = 1,000

This means his balance is around 70,888,000 Dong Vietnam around (2880$). The important thing is not the balance, but the main topic about his KYC since now being asked to at least sent again with different angle + photoshoot but with the same info data ID from the data he was inputed during KYC to at least DT member.

Of which... still yet to be sent to me.

I don't want to jump into conclusion, so... OP, in case you missed the memo, I am still waiting for you to share me another image of your ID, of which I'll say it again and deliberately being redundant: I am not interested in the private nature of your ID and what sharing it with me entailed, I am simply interested to get things done and this case closed, to prove which side tells the truth and who tried to manipulate things.

I'll appreciate a very prompt reply, to eradicate any doubt.
legendary
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September 14, 2024, 10:47:18 AM
#66
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No need to verify, he already sent the image.

He has a balance of 70,888 VND in BK8. The balance setting in BK8:
1 = 1,000

This means his balance is around 70,888,000 Dong Vietnam around (2880$). The important thing is not the balance, but the main topic about his KYC since now being asked to at least sent again with different angle + photoshoot but with the same info data ID from the data he was inputed during KYC to at least DT member.
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September 14, 2024, 06:30:05 AM
#65
Do you happen to have a screenshot of the amount in question? It would be good to use as proof if you’re making a scam accusation. But if not, your chances of getting sympathy here are a bit low since we base things on evidence.

I believe the word you're trying to say is "attention", not sympathy, as that's what serving evidences are for on this board, to catch overseers' attention and validate the accusation, not to get people to symphatize with them, let alone favoring them simply due to the amount involved.
Thanks, I stand corrected, it should be attention.

As such, I don't see how the amount is still essential, will probably be helpful for future reference [definitely will help me wrote the amount disputed in my column], but not necessarily essential to give OP further "chances", given they already got the attention they needed and the case is already in motion.

I find the amount essential if OP was telling the truth that he has 3280$ equivalent in that account. According to OP, that includes the amount initially deposited + the total winnings. But in the absence of valid evidence, we can't confirm it's the real amount, unless Bk8 would confirm that.
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September 13, 2024, 05:55:33 AM
#64
Do you happen to have a screenshot of the amount in question? It would be good to use as proof if you’re making a scam accusation. But if not, your chances of getting sympathy here are a bit low since we base things on evidence.

I believe the word you're trying to say is "attention", not sympathy, as that's what serving evidences are for on this board, to catch overseers' attention and validate the accusation, not to get people to symphatize with them, let alone favoring them simply due to the amount involved.

As such, I don't see how the amount is still essential, will probably be helpful for future reference [definitely will help me wrote the amount disputed in my column], but not necessarily essential to give OP further "chances", given they already got the attention they needed and the case is already in motion.
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September 13, 2024, 02:23:11 AM
#63
Yeah bro. Still 8.000.000 VND withdrawal transaction still pending.
And these scammers was locked my account and Stolent all money



Do you happen to have a screenshot of the amount in question? It would be good to use as proof if you’re making a scam accusation. But if not, your chances of getting sympathy here are a bit low since we base things on evidence.
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September 12, 2024, 02:01:36 PM
#62
Of course bro. I can send another version of the document to you. No problem with me.

Will be very patiently waiting for that, as I haven't get any new message from you in my inbox. Can't help but being a bit curious why can't you provide them at a close proximity with the time you made this post, given all you need is to take a snap here and there. But let's table that for now. Bottomline: I am waiting.


This problem here is Bk8 scammer. They dont want to solve this mess bro. You can dowload app Zalo of VietNam.
It can check my ID with QR code. If my ID is fake. Cant check it.

Got ahead of you by already downloading and installing it yesterday, but I refused to get through the next step as it require my phone number, and I assume the best it do is reading QR and show the data contained in it? Of which a digital-text version of what shown on your physical card? Done that through simple QR reader. Or am I wrong and Zalo will give more info? So I deleted the app.

BK8 scammers dont want to pay for me. If they solve this. It will take 3200$ from them.
That is problem bro. They dont want to solve it. And only give some bullshits reason!
Appreciate for your support. But those fucking guys from BK8 are idiots. The ID from GOV easy to check.
They are scammers and robbers

As said above, I'll appreciate if you can help me cross the T's and dot my I's soonest possible.
legendary
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September 12, 2024, 11:22:20 AM
#61
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I just commented one time.

Let's stop the cap and bullshit, and at least try to follow up with other fellow members who are trying to help you. Don't say "too f*cking tired*, you're not trusting BK8 is fine and other users can understand but saying that's to other fellow members who trying to follow up on your case is not good. If some other users who having a problem will mostly gonna to send the data as fast they can (while they facing some issue) and hoping the issue can be solved.

The behaviors you are doing, will gonna leave a bad expression to other members who seeing your case. Cause you trying to avoid or buy time (might be things, the casino response is correct and you're the problem). @holydarkness already gave his time to at least help your case, all you need to do just try to follow up his request or advice as fast you can.



Just respond okay, will send to you and make sure the data is correct + the same with the data you are submitted in BK8. If you not trying to comply, even with other member then could be no one gonna to help you + just ignore your message as spam next time.
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September 12, 2024, 10:28:00 AM
#60
It seems like the issue here lies in the fact that you knew gambling was illegal in your country, yet you still participated. Also, the amount of money involved isn't that large, just over 100 USD when converted. The company likely spends a lot on promotions, so it's doubtful they'd risk their reputation over such a small amount.[...]

To be fair, the amount is not just over 100 USD, OP has converted the number they wrote from VND to USD, it's 82mio VND, roughly 3,200 USD.

I thought the balance that appeared was the actual amount, as you can see.

https://ibb.co/HND0w0R

that's 70,888.51, and my conversion on that was over 100 usd.

Yeah bro. Still 8.000.000 VND withdrawal transaction still pending.
And these scammers was locked my account and Stolent all money

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/09/12/Bjp0Z.jpeg
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September 12, 2024, 10:22:24 AM
#59
I confirm that I've receive the ID.

Due to the private nature that it contain, I'll further discuss this matter through PM later tonight when I have more time at hand to look and cross-check things, to dots the i's and cross the t's. For the time being, do you mind to send me a newer photo of them? As in the one that's completely new and not used for previous KYC. Let's say just to be sure that every angle is tried. I think I intended to ask them on my previous post [the one you gave to BK8 as well as different, newer photo, but I guess I missed that]

To be clear with the public, BK8 sent me a PM last night with proof to show their findings that substantiate their ruling, so here I am, trying to prove from both sides, simultaneously.

[...]

Iam too tired to fight with fucking site scam. They dont want to pay for the winner. That is all. They are scammers !

Unfortunately, the problem here, BK8 supplied me with valid points that allows some questions and doubts for the credibility of some elements of your KYC. They gave some pointer of what they suspected to be fabrication, of which in spite of that, I'm still looking for my own source to validate/invalidate their claim.

You supplying another version of the document is one of my attempt. Which I'll appreciate if you'll comply, because otherwise, with the current documents provided as my only source to prove/disprove the situation, I have to lean toward their findings and rulings.

Of course, if you want to, to maintain sense of fairness, I can share the documents provided --I'll censor other private elements and only highlight the ones I find questionable, if you want to-- with 2-4 other DTs [suppose they're willing] and see what they think of it.

Kindly let me know what you think of the two proposal above.

Of course bro. I can send another version of the document to you. No problem with me.
This problem here is Bk8 scammer. They dont want to solve this mess bro. You can dowload app Zalo of VietNam.
It can check my ID with QR code. If my ID is fake. Cant check it.
BK8 scammers dont want to pay for me. If they solve this. It will take 3200$ from them.
That is problem bro. They dont want to solve it. And only give some bullshits reason!
Appreciate for your support. But those fucking guys from BK8 are idiots. The ID from GOV easy to check.
They are scammers and robbers
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September 12, 2024, 07:59:06 AM
#58
It seems like the issue here lies in the fact that you knew gambling was illegal in your country, yet you still participated. Also, the amount of money involved isn't that large, just over 100 USD when converted. The company likely spends a lot on promotions, so it's doubtful they'd risk their reputation over such a small amount.[...]

To be fair, the amount is not just over 100 USD, OP has converted the number they wrote from VND to USD, it's 82mio VND, roughly 3,200 USD.

I thought the balance that appeared was the actual amount, as you can see.

https://ibb.co/HND0w0R

that's 70,888.51, and my conversion on that was over 100 usd.
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