@Searing: quit spamming, it's annoying
sorry point taken...but would like to see other asic's do cc esp Blackarrow being that their shipping timeline is way out in I think march 2014
Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 349. (Read 787066 times)
sorry point taken...but would like to see other asic's do cc esp Blackarrow being that their shipping timeline is way out in I think march 2014
@Searing: quit spamming, it's annoying
Searing thank you very much.
well if this is about credit card protection you are welcome...unfortunately www.kncminer.com is the only reputable asic mnfg that take cc now or even paypal w/cc ...and they are probably out of stock on anything till after the 1st of the year
so if someone knows another asic company taking cc let me know....BFL and the others have stopped who did accept as far as I know www.kncminer.com seems to be the only game in town for cc orders as of now
Searing
Searing thank you very much.
I was about to place X-3 order, but...
Wire details say:
"VERY IMPORTANT! For your security and ours please try to send the payment from your own bank account. If the bank account sender's name differs from the receiver's name we might have to ask you to provide a copy of the ID and a proof of address of both the bank account holder and the receiver's. We might also need to ask you to explain what is your relation with the bank account holder."
What is this? If I send the payment, do you really care from where the money comes? I have done years deals with chinese companies and this is the very first time I face this kind of requirements. Actually also no one cares in Europe who pays as long as money comes or not at least big trade companies in Germany and Netherlands Im dealing with. Sure you're honest, but I dont really get that point. Im in Bitcoin for profit & privacy & idealism and Im not going to deal with this kind of requirements - only exceptions are exchanges. So if you can not accept payment from my company without asking those documents, then I have to order from some other place who takes my money - and no questions asked. Could you please clarify those requirements a bit?
These types of requests are for AML (Anti Money Laundering) compliances, sending large wire transfers from an account that isn't yours to someone else looks bad on both ends. Wire details say:
"VERY IMPORTANT! For your security and ours please try to send the payment from your own bank account. If the bank account sender's name differs from the receiver's name we might have to ask you to provide a copy of the ID and a proof of address of both the bank account holder and the receiver's. We might also need to ask you to explain what is your relation with the bank account holder."
What is this? If I send the payment, do you really care from where the money comes? I have done years deals with chinese companies and this is the very first time I face this kind of requirements. Actually also no one cares in Europe who pays as long as money comes or not at least big trade companies in Germany and Netherlands Im dealing with. Sure you're honest, but I dont really get that point. Im in Bitcoin for profit & privacy & idealism and Im not going to deal with this kind of requirements - only exceptions are exchanges. So if you can not accept payment from my company without asking those documents, then I have to order from some other place who takes my money - and no questions asked. Could you please clarify those requirements a bit?
Easiest way to purchase is to convert on an exchange then send them BTC.
If I pay order from my company account with of course correct receivers details and order ref number nothing looks unusual / bad at my bank or at receivers bank. It´s just ordinary wire and few thousands not so big, that happens every day everywhere. I still not get that point about these ID requirements in such case.
I want to pay by wire. Convert to btc takes at least as long as wire directly. And now btc is so fluctuating that it´s actually hard to determine how much you need fiat to get about correct amount btc.
To BlackArrow
Q1: I will be in Shenzen next March, where is your shop I would like to wlak-in and buy. I accept higher price, not pre-ordering anything.
Q2: If you are still not going with Credit Cards or Paypal, for whatever reason that practically no one understands, then I suggest you open shop on Alibaba.com.
Thanks.In regards to the whatever reason no one understands remark:
Other companies, such as BFL, have poisoned the CC / Paypal well for everyone else looking to use those services. No one selling ASIC miners can get CC and PayPal to offer their services due in part to BFL's inability and or willingness to refund customers. See the various threads regarding CC and PayPal complaints and calls for refunds addressed directly at BFL and others.
Q1: I will be in Shenzen next March, where is your shop I would like to wlak-in and buy. I accept higher price, not pre-ordering anything.
Q2: If you are still not going with Credit Cards or Paypal, for whatever reason that practically no one understands, then I suggest you open shop on Alibaba.com.
Thanks.In regards to the whatever reason no one understands remark:
Other companies, such as BFL, have poisoned the CC / Paypal well for everyone else looking to use those services. No one selling ASIC miners can get CC and PayPal to offer their services due in part to BFL's inability and or willingness to refund customers. See the various threads regarding CC and PayPal complaints and calls for refunds addressed directly at BFL and others.
www.kncminer.com is the only company that takes paypal with credit card or credit card direct. Also remember if you have a bank DEBIT card some are backed by cc companies (mine is visa) so just contact the bank 1st tell them you are gonna use it as a cc first .....do so ....and the $$$ you set aside for that wire xfer can go thru the cc function of you cc and then maybe go in once it clears in a few days and pay up to your bank direct that way...don't make my mistake with BFL with check bank withdrawl or wire xfer ...and paypal regular only 45 days to get refund if jerked around like BFL did to folks...so use a company that takes a cc for your protection..they don't deliver and string you along more then 45 days via paypal cc option or direct cc payment you can pull the money back (alas had to upgrade to 900gh of monarch cards from bfl that will likely never get ROI if they EVEN ever ship them on time..this is an ugrade from my gen 1 asic stuff that they never delivered from summer...and because they refused to give refund or ship product in a timely manner only option was to upgrade.....so 'forced to upgrade" to their supposed dec shipping of next generation monarch asic cards ..that money is gone imho...stall tactic)
anyway if any other asic mnfg company takes credit card let me know...but the only one I know of that still does is www.kncminer.com ..I'd be interested in any others that do take cc I may order from such ....braver with the option to pull plub for non-delivery ...learned my lesson ....no credit card no 'candy'
my 2c worth
Searing
To BlackArrow
Q1: I will be in Shenzen next March, where is your shop I would like to wlak-in and buy. I accept higher price, not pre-ordering anything.
Q2: If you are still not going with Credit Cards or Paypal, for whatever reason that practically no one understands, then I suggest you open shop on Alibaba.com.
Thanks.
Q1: I will be in Shenzen next March, where is your shop I would like to wlak-in and buy. I accept higher price, not pre-ordering anything.
Q2: If you are still not going with Credit Cards or Paypal, for whatever reason that practically no one understands, then I suggest you open shop on Alibaba.com.
Thanks.
In regards to the whatever reason no one understands remark:
Other companies, such as BFL, have poisoned the CC / Paypal well for everyone else looking to use those services. No one selling ASIC miners can get CC and PayPal to offer their services due in part to BFL's inability and or willingness to refund customers. See the various threads regarding CC and PayPal complaints and calls for refunds addressed directly at BFL and others.
To BlackArrow
Q1: I will be in Shenzen next March, where is your shop I would like to wlak-in and buy. I accept higher price, not pre-ordering anything.
Q2: If you are still not going with Credit Cards or Paypal, for whatever reason that practically no one understands, then I suggest you open shop on Alibaba.com.
Thanks.
Q1: I will be in Shenzen next March, where is your shop I would like to wlak-in and buy. I accept higher price, not pre-ordering anything.
Q2: If you are still not going with Credit Cards or Paypal, for whatever reason that practically no one understands, then I suggest you open shop on Alibaba.com.
Thanks.
Sorry I'm not BlackArrow, but I'm curious for your reason.
A1. address on web site, click 'about us' link
Questions for Q2. why Alibaba? what are the advantages? Even Alibaba representatives recommend use only 'gold suppliers' and there are fees to be gold supplier, still with no guarantees
To BlackArrow
Q1: I will be in Shenzen next March, where is your shop I would like to wlak-in and buy. I accept higher price, not pre-ordering anything.
Q2: If you are still not going with Credit Cards or Paypal, for whatever reason that practically no one understands, then I suggest you open shop on Alibaba.com.
Thanks.
Q1: I will be in Shenzen next March, where is your shop I would like to wlak-in and buy. I accept higher price, not pre-ordering anything.
Q2: If you are still not going with Credit Cards or Paypal, for whatever reason that practically no one understands, then I suggest you open shop on Alibaba.com.
Thanks.
I was about to place X-3 order, but...
Wire details say:
"VERY IMPORTANT! For your security and ours please try to send the payment from your own bank account. If the bank account sender's name differs from the receiver's name we might have to ask you to provide a copy of the ID and a proof of address of both the bank account holder and the receiver's. We might also need to ask you to explain what is your relation with the bank account holder."
What is this? If I send the payment, do you really care from where the money comes? I have done years deals with chinese companies and this is the very first time I face this kind of requirements. Actually also no one cares in Europe who pays as long as money comes or not at least big trade companies in Germany and Netherlands Im dealing with. Sure you're honest, but I dont really get that point. Im in Bitcoin for profit & privacy & idealism and Im not going to deal with this kind of requirements - only exceptions are exchanges. So if you can not accept payment from my company without asking those documents, then I have to order from some other place who takes my money - and no questions asked. Could you please clarify those requirements a bit?
These types of requests are for AML (Anti Money Laundering) compliances, sending large wire transfers from an account that isn't yours to someone else looks bad on both ends. Wire details say:
"VERY IMPORTANT! For your security and ours please try to send the payment from your own bank account. If the bank account sender's name differs from the receiver's name we might have to ask you to provide a copy of the ID and a proof of address of both the bank account holder and the receiver's. We might also need to ask you to explain what is your relation with the bank account holder."
What is this? If I send the payment, do you really care from where the money comes? I have done years deals with chinese companies and this is the very first time I face this kind of requirements. Actually also no one cares in Europe who pays as long as money comes or not at least big trade companies in Germany and Netherlands Im dealing with. Sure you're honest, but I dont really get that point. Im in Bitcoin for profit & privacy & idealism and Im not going to deal with this kind of requirements - only exceptions are exchanges. So if you can not accept payment from my company without asking those documents, then I have to order from some other place who takes my money - and no questions asked. Could you please clarify those requirements a bit?
Easiest way to purchase is to convert on an exchange then send them BTC.
I was about to place X-3 order, but...
Wire details say:
"VERY IMPORTANT! For your security and ours please try to send the payment from your own bank account. If the bank account sender's name differs from the receiver's name we might have to ask you to provide a copy of the ID and a proof of address of both the bank account holder and the receiver's. We might also need to ask you to explain what is your relation with the bank account holder."
What is this? If I send the payment, do you really care from where the money comes? I have done years deals with chinese companies and this is the very first time I face this kind of requirements. Actually also no one cares in Europe who pays as long as money comes or not at least big trade companies in Germany and Netherlands Im dealing with. Sure you're honest, but I dont really get that point. Im in Bitcoin for profit & privacy & idealism and Im not going to deal with this kind of requirements - only exceptions are exchanges. So if you can not accept payment from my company without asking those documents, then I have to order from some other place who takes my money - and no questions asked. Could you please clarify those requirements a bit?
Wire details say:
"VERY IMPORTANT! For your security and ours please try to send the payment from your own bank account. If the bank account sender's name differs from the receiver's name we might have to ask you to provide a copy of the ID and a proof of address of both the bank account holder and the receiver's. We might also need to ask you to explain what is your relation with the bank account holder."
What is this? If I send the payment, do you really care from where the money comes? I have done years deals with chinese companies and this is the very first time I face this kind of requirements. Actually also no one cares in Europe who pays as long as money comes or not at least big trade companies in Germany and Netherlands Im dealing with. Sure you're honest, but I dont really get that point. Im in Bitcoin for profit & privacy & idealism and Im not going to deal with this kind of requirements - only exceptions are exchanges. So if you can not accept payment from my company without asking those documents, then I have to order from some other place who takes my money - and no questions asked. Could you please clarify those requirements a bit?
Problems solved! Was a detail on the image. Waiting the other miner 
Thanks to Alex and BlackArrow support
Thanks to Alex and BlackArrow support
blackarrow , i added you to skype
would like to talk
thx you
would like to talk
thx you
I am sorry to delete all these messages about our Bitfury boards but they are offtopic. Please move to our Bitfury thread.
This thread is about Minion & Prospero.
This thread is about Minion & Prospero.
Your tickets were all merged and answered. We are 2 days behind with answering tickets because of the increased number of customers. We are sorry for this. For emergencies please contact us on Skype ID: blackarrowsoftware.
could you please Fassad tell us when you have more info about your problem ?
how can you ask support here ? dont they have ticket support ?
& why you only receive 1 item instead 2 as u order ?
they didnt answer you ?
thx you
how can you ask support here ? dont they have ticket support ?
& why you only receive 1 item instead 2 as u order ?
they didnt answer you ?
thx you
I leave 3 tickets support at the moment, no answer yet.
I don't know why received only 1 item, one ticket get this answer.
Next, more news...
could you please Fassad tell us when you have more info about your problem ?
how can you ask support here ? dont they have ticket support ?
& why you only receive 1 item instead 2 as u order ?
they didnt answer you ?
thx you
how can you ask support here ? dont they have ticket support ?
& why you only receive 1 item instead 2 as u order ?
they didnt answer you ?
thx you
Hi Blackarrow, please, do you could review the order #532 from your website, I bought 2x160 GHs and I receive only one of two...
And this only unit doesn't works...please could respond to messages I sent to you?
I think it's best to wait till February 2014 till they are on the shelf and just walk in the store buy over the counter.
I'll be in Shenzhen end of Feb and buy one then if this pans out as Black Arrow describes.
I'll be in Shenzhen end of Feb and buy one then if this pans out as Black Arrow describes.
So Black Arrow is only accepting Bitcoin for payment?
Bank Transfer, Western Union, Moneygram and Bitcoin
All one way transactions with no charge back.
sorry BFL refugee will stick with KNC they still take paypal and direct cc etc unless I'm wrong only ones that still take paypal or cc direct as well (correct me if I'm wrong)
although they may just sit out this madness and their next gen run is prob march 2014
as nuts as it is gonna be in the next 6 months (ie china etc).. a person would prob be better off buing/selling on the panic/rush in that time frame
anyway cc is the only way to go otherwise they can be like BFL promise the moon and deliver a year late and still keep your $$$
my 2c worth
Searing
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