Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 39. (Read 787047 times)
many people are trying to sell their X3s now even for really bad prices - do not buy or risk your home burnt
I don't want to run it 24/7 making chump change, and feel I might get my 100% seller rating burned if I sell it on eBay.
It's yet another gamble, and it's a tricky one. You could spend $10 mining $20 worth of bitcoin, but what will that $20 worth of coin be worth in a year's time? What's a loss today could be a profit tomorrow, it's kind of a 3D gamble pitching power draw versus coins mined versus time.I'm running mine 24/7 because I can afford to throw the money at it (119 watts 24/7 is probably on a par with smoking one cigarette a day, and I don't smoke).
I feel sorry for the guys who have put four or five figures into Sovu's grasping claws, and I doubt he's going to crawl out of his cave for any BTC conference for fear of getting a pasting or worse.
Ordered an X1 from Minersource in December. Like most, I have asked for a refund on numerous occasions. Communication from them has been close to nil on this issue.
With notice and out of the blue, today I find a delivery notice pasted on my front door. Attempted delivery of a package from Denver.
I'll accept the package tomorrow since refusing it will leave me with nothing in hand, period.
I'll also record the plugin and bootup just in case the PSU explodes as some X1's have done (very exciting:) but after that I have no clue. I don't want to run it 24/7 making chump change, and feel I might get my 100% seller rating burned if I sell it on eBay.
Maybe I'll put it in the litter box and let my cats take dumps on it, unplugged of course.... We'll see.
With notice and out of the blue, today I find a delivery notice pasted on my front door. Attempted delivery of a package from Denver.
I'll accept the package tomorrow since refusing it will leave me with nothing in hand, period.
I'll also record the plugin and bootup just in case the PSU explodes as some X1's have done (very exciting:) but after that I have no clue. I don't want to run it 24/7 making chump change, and feel I might get my 100% seller rating burned if I sell it on eBay.
Maybe I'll put it in the litter box and let my cats take dumps on it, unplugged of course.... We'll see.
Good idea about the filming. Most likely will there be a little mushroom cloud over the unit.
That whole BA story, what a mess. That is the one single thing I do not like about bitcoins. In all other cases when people get cheated or scammed, the criminals are brought to justice. But when the payment has been with "bitcoin" then will the criminals always walk free, and even rich too. Not fair.
I paid in USD if it makes you feel better.
Sorry for you loss man
I hope you somehow is able to recover some of it.Hate all those scammers!
That whole BA story, what a mess. That is the one single thing I do not like about bitcoins. In all other cases when people get cheated or scammed, the criminals are brought to justice. But when the payment has been with "bitcoin" then will the criminals always walk free, and even rich too. Not fair.
What I love with BA, either WE customers are guilty, either their providers ... I already mentioned X-1s giving electrical shocks... and the CE sign on the PSUs is the China Export sign, not the CE one !!!
The China Export mark is apparently a misconception, what I suspect these supplies have is a counterfeit Conformité Européenne mark. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#China_Export
The X1 PSU definitely has an incorrect CE mark as seen here:-
(screenshot from http://youtu.be/KtxVxqPmN7k?t=2m50s at 2:50)
I believe BA were badgering the PSU manufacturers to shrink the physical size of the PSUs which won't help matters. Here we go, 20th February weekly update (remember those?) parts 6a and 6b. http://ecointalk.net/topic/392-black-arrow-weekly-production-update/
Anybody in the US want to get in touch with Underwriters Laboratories? They take a rather dim view of logo misuse and there's a UL Registered Component mark on those power supplies. http://site.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/services/programs/anticounterfeitingoperations/
Quote from: http://site.ul.com/global/eng/pages/offerings/services/programs/anticounterfeitingoperations/faq/
How are counterfeit goods discovered? And how can companies/individuals report counterfeiting?
UL works with U.S. Customs and other law enforcement agencies to train personnel how to identify counterfeit products. If you have information about counterfeiting activities or suspicious products, please contact the U.S. Customs hotline at 1-800-ITS-FAKE (1-800-487-3253) or UL to issue a report.
UL works with U.S. Customs and other law enforcement agencies to train personnel how to identify counterfeit products. If you have information about counterfeiting activities or suspicious products, please contact the U.S. Customs hotline at 1-800-ITS-FAKE (1-800-487-3253) or UL to issue a report.
ALSO of note (the deeper the rabbit hole goes) there's no FCC declaration on those power supplies, and for import to the US they appear to require one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_Declaration_of_Conformity
Again, where is the CE cert for Black Arrow?
You wouldn't know, as you are not our customer.I am though. Where's the CE cert? Where are the refunds? Where's the money?
At this point I'm in the dont really care any more mood, because were either all gonne get our stuff or nothing at all. I've already gotten a half X3 unit but I can't even run the damn thing due to an issue with the PSU or god knows what.
Im getting dizzy...
All the deleted posts are getting me disoriented.
All the deleted posts are getting me disoriented.
Bobsag3, you have sold hardware with defective and potentially hazardous components, as confirmed by BA. It doesn't matter who made the power supply; MINERSOURCE sold these products in the United States. So again I'll ask you to address this in the public forum or make an official statement from/on the Minersource website.
* What is your plan of action regarding the present situation?
* How does the present situation not constitute the conditions for a refund as stated in correspondence with your support staff?
* What is your plan of action regarding the present situation?
* How does the present situation not constitute the conditions for a refund as stated in correspondence with your support staff?
08 Sept 2014: X3 Power supply recall
There have been reports that some X3s are failing. We have located this problem to be caused by the power supply.
Please note that this power supply is not manufactured by Black Arrow and has been purchased from a company in Shenzhen which sold it to us as CE certified.
After thorough investigations the power supply company has reached the conclusion that there are 3 major issues in this PSU and any PSU can fail at any time and it not safe to use. They have currently fixed the issues and are currently testing them.
Please stop using all X3s immediately!
We are recalling the X3 power supplies. Please do not ship your X3 unit or X3 Power supply back to us right now. We will contact the X3 customers later this week with more instructions on how to arrange shipping. If you have an X3 and have not received an email from us this week please contact our customer support immediately.
There have been reports that some X3s are failing. We have located this problem to be caused by the power supply.
Please note that this power supply is not manufactured by Black Arrow and has been purchased from a company in Shenzhen which sold it to us as CE certified.
After thorough investigations the power supply company has reached the conclusion that there are 3 major issues in this PSU and any PSU can fail at any time and it not safe to use. They have currently fixed the issues and are currently testing them.
Please stop using all X3s immediately!
We are recalling the X3 power supplies. Please do not ship your X3 unit or X3 Power supply back to us right now. We will contact the X3 customers later this week with more instructions on how to arrange shipping. If you have an X3 and have not received an email from us this week please contact our customer support immediately.
So now its the PSU? What did BA say the cause was before, caps? Starting to think BA really don't know what's causing the FIRE. If had an X3 or one on the way there would be no way in hell I would plug it in and run it.
BA where are our refunds?
MS, where is my fucking refund?
You are all useless, inept big show wannabe's trying to run a company and it clearly shows you couldn't run a bath. Hope you all end up in jail
MS, where is my fucking refund?
You are all useless, inept big show wannabe's trying to run a company and it clearly shows you couldn't run a bath. Hope you all end up in jail
Hey scammers where's my miner you stupid fucking crooks?
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Where is the photo of the burned X3? Weak guys 
You mean this one:
Yes I did. And thanks for the information that it was a fake with the burning X3.
It does not look good. It does not look good at all. Good that these only runs in data centers with halon safty system ect. running these in your home would not be a good idea
Where is the photo of the burned X3? Weak guys
You mean this one:
Yes I did. And thanks for the information that it was a fake with the burning X3.
Where is the photo of the burned X3? Weak guys
You mean this one:
Where is the photo of the burned X3? Weak guys
Wow,I read the whole thread in record time......is it missing a few pages 
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