Topic: black hat crypto currency DDOScoin and white hat VPNcoin (Read 555 times)
ok vpn coin works with a proof of retrieval and https websites only
if you could solve using the signing key in the blockchain without losing the key you would have a huge breakthrough.
Gladius spins p2p vpn in a better way. People typically use vpn's to hide their ip addresses and browsing history. This is possible but with the lack of a proof of bandwidth it isn't possible for http. It would require a specialized browser as well.
Sounds to be a good project if they can figure out the development part.
edit: I stand corrected I don't think that Gladius is possible. It requires either proof of bandwidth or usage of a signing key in the blockchain. Impossible so far!
Sounds to be a good project if they can figure out the development part.
edit: I stand corrected I don't think that Gladius is possible. It requires either proof of bandwidth or usage of a signing key in the blockchain. Impossible so far!
whether the crypto currency is not illegal or can be spelled out for crime?
I'm not the one who originally published on this and had some belief that it was redundant. It would be illegal to mine so maybe it would go to large state actors. You could invest. I think it would go to hardened bot herders such as the types you see at defcon.
thinking about developing a DDOS coin based on attacking SSL certificate usage
there was an ico Gladius that aims the same direction. look at it if u want.
whether the crypto currency is not illegal or can be spelled out for crime?
Well i wanted to build contracts for ETH and charge people gas for using the contract much like I could
write using .Net web-services that could be deployed on ETH nodes that would fit the bill just fine but i was thinking
more like a service that could make calls out to HTTP web servers to validate credit card details or something
I am not sure but i don't think this is possible and ETH contracts are more about just storing strings or numbers
in a distributed system and charging "Gas" for doing so which makes it more like a global abacus in my book even if it used locks and ledgers
that is designed to make more profit for the miners/nodes
Please someone step in if you believe that i am wrong and put me right
What i would like to see is a type of contract/program that can be deployed and then used as a type of VPN or proxy-server
that uses credits or gas to ensure people using the service can only get free resources on the network if they are also
providing services to the network which could be anything from hosting a database to allowing others to share their
internet connection of even earned by helping other networks with mining coins.
if someone has not built this type of thing already then they soon will me thinks but it might well need a number
of centralized coordinators much like Bit-Torrent to work because trying to store even a small amount of data for
7.5bn people on 50,000 distributed machines all replicating each others is something that has already been tried out
and it does not scale, wastes resources but web-sites held on such a system like I have outlined here would be almost
impossible to DDOS. Throw in a few fall-over servers that charge extra gas in an emergency and you start to get a stable system.
This is the reason BTC can only process 7 transactions a second and VISA-Card can do 25,000 a second but the
penny is not dropping yet with the Bitcoin community
write using .Net web-services that could be deployed on ETH nodes that would fit the bill just fine but i was thinking
more like a service that could make calls out to HTTP web servers to validate credit card details or something
I am not sure but i don't think this is possible and ETH contracts are more about just storing strings or numbers
in a distributed system and charging "Gas" for doing so which makes it more like a global abacus in my book even if it used locks and ledgers
that is designed to make more profit for the miners/nodes
Please someone step in if you believe that i am wrong and put me right
What i would like to see is a type of contract/program that can be deployed and then used as a type of VPN or proxy-server
that uses credits or gas to ensure people using the service can only get free resources on the network if they are also
providing services to the network which could be anything from hosting a database to allowing others to share their
internet connection of even earned by helping other networks with mining coins.
if someone has not built this type of thing already then they soon will me thinks but it might well need a number
of centralized coordinators much like Bit-Torrent to work because trying to store even a small amount of data for
7.5bn people on 50,000 distributed machines all replicating each others is something that has already been tried out
and it does not scale, wastes resources but web-sites held on such a system like I have outlined here would be almost
impossible to DDOS. Throw in a few fall-over servers that charge extra gas in an emergency and you start to get a stable system.
This is the reason BTC can only process 7 transactions a second and VISA-Card can do 25,000 a second but the
penny is not dropping yet with the Bitcoin community
you could make a vpn on ethereum but since there is no proof of bandwidth it could be for https (SSL) only.
also isn't a p2p vpn the worst way to make a vpn? it's technically possible but the low state of internet security or even data mining/spying by the miners makes it less optimal than a centralized service provided with trust and secrecy.
ddos coin is a real threat to the establishment
Isnt it dangerous for the p2p transactions? i am not against this but i dont see any future with your plan.
payload state FUD!
There's a future. They keep settling. I would recommend using a proxy tho. Your comment drops the price on the structured settlement, saving the gov money. You affect both the bid and ask price for a disruptive crypto currency not to be released. How do you feel now??
Isnt it dangerous for the p2p transactions? i am not against this but i dont see any future with your plan.
ya a coin that would pay per DDOS of a website.
this my new project. its a radical crypto currency. use tor or a proxy when developing as always. I dont go down btw.
the same argument could be made about bitcoin and ethereum, they're totally illegal but it happened and its worth money.
#technoactivism
#technoactivism
DDoS is not “activism”. It is vigilante censorship via Internet arson. Its ultimate result is to increase the centralization of the Internet under the power of huge “anti-DDoS” corporations who are part of the mass-surveillance infrastructure—thus destroying both privacy and freedom of speech in one blow.
Cloudflare loves scum like you; you are the enforcers who shove sites under their control. Sites such as bitcointalk.org.
I hope you die of cancer.
international government AI settles billions of USD continuously for this coin not to be released. Now how do you feel? They're the biggest mega conglomerate of all and on your side. I think you are confused and mistaken about what the opposition to ourselves is here.
If you wondered why all crypto currency "3.0" are trust based non radical solutions to modern finance, that's why ^^^ the government is paying people off not to release their disruptive work.
damages are ok? You know your dual mining algorithms, but I am recommending a multi chain tree similar to the shape of the Bitcoin/Mastercoin system, where Mastercoin is attached perpendicularly to the Bitcoin blockchain.
POS does give an advantage to investors over hardware owners, but a POW similar to bitcoin uses the same resources as the proof of DDOS (computational work) so that would be a waste of the total CPU going to the blockchain based attack. Anyways, the investors are often bitcoin holders so that gives the advantage to the bitcoin community rather than a centralized group of miners.
I recommend a dual blockchain mining algorithm. The main chain should be POS so that no resources going into securing the main chain dominate the subchains. The subchain mining algorithm is a proof-of-DDOS computationally secured by SSL's signing key. This is technically a proof of work, not a proof of bandwidth!
Interesting,
so if I'm understanding this correctly, you'd launch your blockchain with 2 genesis blocks, in essence forking the chain from the very beginning or am I missing something?
.... regular POS are quality enough. However, I wouldn't recommend delegated POS, because it seems unfair and anticompetitive to me.
I agree. I like PoS over PoW but it does allow for those with more capital or the means of procuring more capital an unfair advantage in a PoS delegated consensus system.
I don't have a nihilistic position based hatred of script kiddies... let em play. Yes, anybody could mine or even pay for DDOS of a signing certificate. That's the idea --> monetize the algorithm and payload of DOS in a secure, trustless, p2p manner.
To me, a better argument is the fact that a dominating financial class could use their bankrolls to manipulate the https domain names on the internet. Skids aren't going to suddenly run the world.
I see the coin gaining value via insider trading. For example, purchase a short position on https://www.google.com then place a bounty on that website. The price should decrease. Maybe a better target is something like https://merchandisesellingcompany.com
To me, a better argument is the fact that a dominating financial class could use their bankrolls to manipulate the https domain names on the internet. Skids aren't going to suddenly run the world.
I see the coin gaining value via insider trading. For example, purchase a short position on https://www.google.com then place a bounty on that website. The price should decrease. Maybe a better target is something like https://merchandisesellingcompany.com
Again, I believe your blockchain would bring more harm than good but I must admit to liking the way your mind is working and I'd still research and follow your blockchain. when you publish the whitepaper can you please tag me in the post?
bitcoin is the dominating financial class now
I recommend a dual blockchain mining algorithm. The main chain should be POS so that no resources going into securing the main chain dominate the subchains. The subchain mining algorithm is a proof-of-DDOS computationally secured by SSL's signing key. This is technically a proof of work, not a proof of bandwidth! Casper, slasher, and regular POS are quality enough. However, I wouldn't recommend delegated POS, because it seems unfair and anticompetitive to me.
I don't have a nihilistic position based hatred of script kiddies... let em play. Yes, anybody could mine or even pay for DDOS of a signing certificate. That's the idea --> monetize the algorithm and payload of DOS in a secure, trustless, p2p manner.
To me, a better argument is the fact that a dominating financial class could use their bankrolls to manipulate the https domain names on the internet. Skids aren't going to suddenly run the world.
I see the coin gaining value via insider trading. For example, purchase a short position on https://www.google.com then place a bounty on that website. The price should decrease. Maybe a better target is something like https://merchandisesellingcompany.com
I don't have a nihilistic position based hatred of script kiddies... let em play. Yes, anybody could mine or even pay for DDOS of a signing certificate. That's the idea --> monetize the algorithm and payload of DOS in a secure, trustless, p2p manner.
To me, a better argument is the fact that a dominating financial class could use their bankrolls to manipulate the https domain names on the internet. Skids aren't going to suddenly run the world.
I see the coin gaining value via insider trading. For example, purchase a short position on https://www.google.com then place a bounty on that website. The price should decrease. Maybe a better target is something like https://merchandisesellingcompany.com
...shouldn't the antisec cartelize under a crypto currency to combat the cartel formation of the security/surveillance state?
Good Morning man,
First off, I'd like to say that your idea is dope and unique to me (I realize you say you've discovered a blockchain already moving in that direction).
with the compliment though comes a caveat, I couldn't and wouldn't support this blockchain at all.
User nullius bought up a great point about individuals such as yourself (who are causing network security and stability concerns) causing more issues than good.
But your logic on shouldn't the antisec cartelize under a crypto currency is somewhat frightening. Imagine the influx of script kiddies who buy some hardcore arse CIA tool off the dark web then strike websites?
also, logically, how do you protect your blockchain against 51% attacks?
Logically, wouldn't you encourage attack of your own blockchain?
ya a coin that would pay per DDOS of a website.
this my new project. its a radical crypto currency. use tor or a proxy when developing as always. I dont go down btw.
the same argument could be made about bitcoin and ethereum, they're totally illegal but it happened and its worth money.
#technoactivism
#technoactivism
DDoS is not “activism”. It is vigilante censorship via Internet arson. Its ultimate result is to increase the centralization of the Internet under the power of huge “anti-DDoS” corporations who are part of the mass-surveillance infrastructure—thus destroying both privacy and freedom of speech in one blow.
Cloudflare loves scum like you; you are the enforcers who shove sites under their control. Sites such as bitcointalk.org.
I hope you die of cancer.
It's harsh, but I agree 100% Nullius.
well stated
[Edited to add & clarify: Lol, I just noticed the "I hope you die of cancer." part. that I DON'T agree with or cosign, lmao that's savage.]
Not every crypto currency is trustless... ethereum is totally trust based on the community regulating which types of algorithms are run so their mining doesn't get exploited. I can't hate on Ethereum anymore tho without sounding butthurt. I just don't like the way crypto currency went where trust based assets and trust based mining is being touted as the next form of currency.
Perhaps not totally, but yeah, until casper will be fully deployed ETH probably less trustless of the top cryptos.
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