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Topic: black hat crypto currency DDOScoin and white hat VPNcoin - page 3. (Read 630 times)

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ya a coin that would pay per DDOS of a website.  
What stops anyone to pay with BTC/LTC/ETH/USD/anything for DDOS attack?

(Also you may want to know that DDOS attakcs can be illegal)
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Please do not PM me loan requests!
How are you going to be able to prove that you are DDoS'ing a website in order to get paid in "DDOS coins"? Is that something you can prove at all, or is proof not a necessity here?
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What the hell are you talking about?  Bitcoin isn’t illegal.  Unfortunately, neither is the absurdist centralized exploding clown car known as Ethereum

I figure this is a pretty junk thread so I don't mind derailing slightly. Just wondering if you could briefly expound on the "centralized" issue.  I am much weaker in my deep knowledge of the Ethereum ecosystem than I am of Bitcoin.  My understanding is that they can not forcefully push code revisions to nodes.  But that Vitalik does have significant sway over the public opinion as a figure head, and therefore there is a socially centralized element.  Is there a formal "proof" of the underlying centralization/censorship, above and beyond social tendencies?

(For the record, I do have an issue with the DAO hard fork, I just don't know enough about the technical layout of their protocol to argue against them in an educated manner, which I would like to)
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
I think the most likely targets would be massive financial institution, not your dog Fido's personal homepage. 

No, I think the most likely targets are sites such as bitcointalk.org—see below.  Plus the six million other sites which Cloudflare claims as customers.  Plus sites which have been censored off the Internet by DDoS.  And here, you want to (further) commercialize DDoS—so that anybody with deep pockets (or Deep State connections) can more easily buy censorship on demand.  Sounds like fun!

Do you really think that a big bank has a problem shielding its network behind another huge corporation’s anti-DDoS network?  This isn’t 2011 anymore.  They’re wise to this stuff.  Yet the more you monetize DDoS, the more likely a big bank will secretly buy some extra DDoS against its most hated competitor, bitcointalk.org.

your logic: somehow all antisec is secretly in bed with some omnipotent security apparatus

No.  My read is that either you’re an undercover agent, or you’re a patsy sleeping on the floor next to the foot of the bed of the “omnipotent security apparatus” while you delude yourself that you’re fighting it.

I’m not bothering with your video right now.  It’s too cumbersome with my high-security Tor setup.

P.S., I forgot:

the same argument could be made about bitcoin and ethereum, they're totally illegal but it happened and its worth money.

#technoactivism

What the hell are you talking about?  Bitcoin isn’t illegal.  Unfortunately, neither is the absurdist centralized exploding clown car known as Ethereum—the coin which can’t keep its promises that code is law.

With regret, I am (for now) admitting defeat on the DDoS front, and we will soon be using using Cloudflare to protect against DDoS attacks. [...]

I really don't believe in willingly putting a man-in-the-middle in your HTTPS like this [...]

I especially dislike Cloudflare, which I'm almost certain is basically owned by US intelligence agencies. [...]

The Internet is seriously flawed if everyone needs to huddle behind these huge centralized anti-DDoS companies in order to survive...

The security implications are that Cloudflare can read everything you send to or receive from the server, including your cleartext password and any PMs you send or look at.
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ya its dangerous.  being rich in bitcoins is also dangerous.  algorithm posted below. 
sr. member
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ya a coin that would pay per DDOS of a website. 
Isn't it dangerous? I mean come on, you know what will happen when you DDoS a website, right? And also it will consist of a team of hackers. How can you really make this coin to be on top? Unless if you are one of the bad guy out there, then this project will fit to them but it's not advisable to everyone since you are making trouble if you DDoS a website.
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Duly noted but 0day attacks are able to bring even the biggest conglomerates to their knees.  Also, shouldn't the antisec cartelize under a crypto currency to combat the cartel formation of the security/surveillance state?  

I think the most likely targets would be massive financial institution.  After all its for https only

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J9ayHYClw8

your logic: somehow all antisec is secretly in bed with some omnipotent security apparatus
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
ya a coin that would pay per DDOS of a website. 

this my new project.  its a radical crypto currency.  use tor or a proxy when developing as always.  I dont go down btw. 

the same argument could be made about bitcoin and ethereum, they're totally illegal but it happened and its worth money.

#technoactivism

DDoS is not “activism”.  It is vigilante censorship via Internet arson.  Its ultimate result is to increase the centralization of the Internet under the power of huge “anti-DDoS” corporations who are part of the mass-surveillance infrastructure—thus destroying both privacy and freedom of speech in one blow.

Cloudflare loves scum like you; you are the enforcers who shove sites under their control.  Sites such as bitcointalk.org.

I hope you die of cancer.
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ya a coin that would pay per DDOS of a website.  Sorry I didn't know someone had already posted a whitepaper on this subject.  I'll post algorithm and show that its possible. 
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It would help if you could elaborate  what you mean by 'DDOS coin' besides letting us speculate based on the name of it.
How can we know if it's possible if we have absolutely no idea what you're talking about? Is it a coin that will be used to carry out DDoS attacks? If so, then hell no. That'd be illegal and the developers would go down pretty fast.
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thinking about developing a DDOS coin based on attacking SSL certificate usage and a vpn coin that acts as a p2p proxy
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