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hero member
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July 21, 2014, 01:02:08 PM
#34
This can't be very successful with those prices for something which can easily be done with other phones (look at the previous posts).
legendary
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July 21, 2014, 12:40:07 PM
#33
You want real privacy and value?

$5 throw away phones from dollar general. Switch your number up every month. Hell, every week. No internet access on them plus they don't even ask for your name. Plus, you can pick what area code you want.

Pay with cash. Throw away and eat the sim card. Boom.
legendary
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July 21, 2014, 08:49:37 AM
#32
This phone won't be a succes. Sure, here and there a few nerds will buy one, but we can already install apps that offer encrypted services to protect our privacy.

No need to buy such an expensive phone.
sr. member
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July 21, 2014, 08:48:12 AM
#31
Blackphone seems shitty and oveerpriced compared to Oneplusone:

Blackphone is powered by a >2 GHz quad-core SoC and features a full set of premium features, such as a 4.7" HD IPS screen, LTE, HSPA+, 1GB DDR3 RAM, 16GB of storage, >8MP primary camera with flash and 1.3MP front camera, Bluetooth 4.0, 802.11n WiFi, GPS, and more. Certain specifications are subject to change and may be adjusted prior to shipping the first phones later this year.

Oneplusone has a full 1080px HD 5.5-inch screen, 2.5 GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor coupled with an Adreno 330 GPU, 3GB RAM, 64GB of internal memory, CyanogenMod 11s Custom OS, 13 megapixel (rear) and 5 megapixel (front) camera – Sony Exmor sensor, Dual LED and 4K video support.

Blackphone is 629$
Oneplusone is 350$

I think you know which one I'm going to take...

So people are still comparing phones or anything in terms of the pure performance specs. This has always been pretty stupid. It says very little about the actual quality of the components, the quality of the surrounding hardware and the actual performance and experience provided by the operating system!

How I'm supposed to know which has better quality?
Wait two yeras and ask my friend how their phones have lasted and then buy best one?
Or buy most overpriced product and hope I get some qulity too?
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July 21, 2014, 08:43:56 AM
#30
Blackphone seems shitty and oveerpriced compared to Oneplusone:

Blackphone is powered by a >2 GHz quad-core SoC and features a full set of premium features, such as a 4.7" HD IPS screen, LTE, HSPA+, 1GB DDR3 RAM, 16GB of storage, >8MP primary camera with flash and 1.3MP front camera, Bluetooth 4.0, 802.11n WiFi, GPS, and more. Certain specifications are subject to change and may be adjusted prior to shipping the first phones later this year.

Oneplusone has a full 1080px HD 5.5-inch screen, 2.5 GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor coupled with an Adreno 330 GPU, 3GB RAM, 64GB of internal memory, CyanogenMod 11s Custom OS, 13 megapixel (rear) and 5 megapixel (front) camera – Sony Exmor sensor, Dual LED and 4K video support.

Blackphone is 629$
Oneplusone is 350$

I think you know which one I'm going to take...

So people are still comparing phones or anything in terms of the pure performance specs. This has always been pretty stupid. It says very little about the actual quality of the components, the quality of the surrounding hardware and the actual performance and experience provided by the operating system!
sr. member
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July 21, 2014, 08:09:46 AM
#29
Blackphone seems shitty and oveerpriced compared to Oneplusone:

Blackphone is powered by a >2 GHz quad-core SoC and features a full set of premium features, such as a 4.7" HD IPS screen, LTE, HSPA+, 1GB DDR3 RAM, 16GB of storage, >8MP primary camera with flash and 1.3MP front camera, Bluetooth 4.0, 802.11n WiFi, GPS, and more. Certain specifications are subject to change and may be adjusted prior to shipping the first phones later this year.

Oneplusone has a full 1080px HD 5.5-inch screen, 2.5 GHz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor coupled with an Adreno 330 GPU, 3GB RAM, 64GB of internal memory, CyanogenMod 11s Custom OS, 13 megapixel (rear) and 5 megapixel (front) camera – Sony Exmor sensor, Dual LED and 4K video support.

Blackphone is 629$
Oneplusone is 350$

I think you know which one I'm going to take...
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July 20, 2014, 07:01:19 PM
#28
I think they idea is great. Needs some trustworthy third party auditing though.

The most important target right now is to get people to actually use their available security options. Even some easy and free tools like GPG.. (which is actually not 100% secure in terms of tracking depending on usage, but it's a start) just spreading the awareness.

Everyone's complaining, yet they're all posting their private lives willingly on Facebook  Tongue
^ Is just too true.
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July 20, 2014, 04:20:58 PM
#27
Phew... The website alone is puzzling me. I keep on scrolling and - apart from the lag - it's a tad mezmerizing what happens. In light of recent events concerning privacy etc. this seems like a good idea, but I doubt that a lot of people care enough for their privacy to even consider getting such a phone. Everyone's complaining, yet they're all posting their private lives willingly on Facebook  Tongue
legendary
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July 20, 2014, 03:36:55 PM
#26
whats the point of this phone?

Supposed to offer privacy.
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July 20, 2014, 01:43:14 PM
#25
whats the point of this phone?
legendary
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In holiday we trust
July 20, 2014, 01:26:54 PM
#24
Wait this seems like a waste of time since all the phone networks are bugging you anyway and the hardware isn't to impressive for the money.
newbie
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July 20, 2014, 03:27:52 AM
#23
I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone who spends 630 dollars one of these phones is a sucker.

Some issues i have here:

looks like an 50 dollar att go phone generic android. logic says, i can just pirate a copy of their "privatOS" and rip it to my smartphone. same level of protection offered by their product.

you use it with your normal gsm provider. of course you're still being monitored. duh! the only advantage is the software doesn't have the the hidden recording and monitoring functions that log everything you do to a reserved section of your devices storage.


TLDR;they appear to be charging you 500 dollars for their custom operating system, plus the cost of the hardware. seems like a rip off.

I don't think you can find comparable specs on a $50 phone:

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Blackphone is powered by a >2 GHz quad-core SoC and features a full set of premium features, such as a 4.7" HD IPS screen, LTE, HSPA+, 1GB DDR3 RAM, 16GB of storage, >8MP primary camera with flash and 1.3MP front camera, Bluetooth 4.0, 802.11n WiFi, GPS, and more. Certain specifications are subject to change and may be adjusted prior to shipping the first phones later this year.

A $50 phone would probably have a sub-3.5" screen, 800MHz single core processor, 2 MP camera, no front camera, and run Gingerbread.
sr. member
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July 18, 2014, 05:26:10 PM
#22
Im paranoid at heart, so it sounds like a set up. Kinda like the obama phone.
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always the student, never the master.
July 18, 2014, 04:49:07 PM
#21
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July 18, 2014, 01:52:36 PM
#20
hmm not bad but i see chinese copie better than this :p
legendary
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July 18, 2014, 01:39:36 PM
#19
It looks interesting , but the price is a bit steep. Waiting for a full review
legendary
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July 18, 2014, 01:16:41 PM
#18
I'm really close to buying one but I'm one of these rooted android fans, same as:

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looks like an 50 dollar att go phone generic android. logic says, i can just pirate a copy of their "privatOS" and rip it to my smartphone. same level of protection offered by their product.

you use it with your normal gsm provider. of course you're still being monitored. duh! the only advantage is the software doesn't have the the hidden recording and monitoring functions that log everything you do to a reserved section of your devices storage.

Still have time to think about it, though, as it doesn't come to the US till late July.
Need to find a discount code.

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What you get - and an estimated value.
A Smartphone (your buying it upfront - price not buried in a 2 year contract) worth maybe $350+-.
2 years of Silent Circle (you can get this for any android/iphone for $10/mo - 100 per year. $200-$240+-
Android PrivateOS - gives deep control over what apps access what phone features (address book, wifi, etc...) $20+
3 1 year "Friends & Family" SilentCircle subscriptions. $300+-
Plus more...

Can't resist this deal - very attractive:

What you get

$829 in extra value

Blackphone

2 years of Silent Circle Mobile

3, 1 year "Friend and Family" Silent Circle Subscriptions

2 years of Disconnect, 1GB/month

2 years of SpiderOak, 5GB/month

International Power Adapter Kit

Headset
newbie
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July 18, 2014, 01:05:49 PM
#17


From this, I'm assuming one needs the additional monthly service of a carrier?
How secure can that be?

Since you are sending encrypted packets as data (over ATT or whoever) all they see are encrypted
data packets going to Switzerland.
newbie
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July 18, 2014, 12:41:58 PM
#16
is this phone even worth mentioning I feel like its another apple iphone overpriced.
legendary
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July 18, 2014, 12:28:45 PM
#15


Compatible With Any GSM Carrier
No contract obligations so your Blackphone is yours to use, configure, and modify to your own desire.


From this, I'm assuming one needs the additional monthly service of a carrier?
How secure can that be?
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