Block Erupter USB Sales [Temporarily Out of Stock] - page 12.

buyer

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Quote from: buyer on June 23, 2013, 08:15:37 PM

I was going to buy a bunch of them (a few thousand) but did not for this very reason. The OP may know something about producing an ASIC but the OP and his advisors know nothing about marketing and selling product. I suggested using distributors months ago and they've only now come to see the value fo that tried and true model.

Their pricing makes them a non-competitive product and their price dropping makes them a horrible potential partner.

They should, like most manufacturers, set a single unit MSRP (price) and then offer serious discounts for volume purchases (on the order of 30%+). The first company to adopt that distribution model will gain immediate market share.

Hogs get fat but pigs get slaughtered.

Ten pages back.

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Quote from: twitami1 on June 25, 2013, 10:51:30 AM

Lol, I bet.

"Damn, didnt get them on ebay soon enough!!"

This is why you pay for express shipping Cool

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Lol, I bet.

"Damn, didnt get them on ebay soon enough!!"

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Quote from: twitami1 on June 25, 2013, 10:46:37 AM

So, Buyer, how many did you buy at the "old" price?

I dunno, but there was a UPS truck unloading crates of USB hubs next to his house Roll Eyes

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Oh, and explain this:

Pricing affects perception which affects sales. The pricing policy adopted by ASICMINER is attrocious and damaging to their brand image in the short term and the long term. This is not a game.

What company DOESN'T make their price more competitive as they lower production costs? What company DOESN'T lower their prices to be more competitive?

pgbit

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Trident Protocol | Simple «buy-hold-earn» system!

They dropped the price and that's a start...

The 'Expert' option at http://www.coinish.com/calc/#
lets you play with the numbers and see rough estimates, and whether or not a system will break even given a certain initial outlay - based on certain statistical projections.

Probably worth taking the time to look at this, or a similar calculator that takes into account changes in difficulty, so you can carefully calculate the probability of any likely return.

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So, Buyer, how many did you buy at the "old" price?

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Quote from: tacotime on June 24, 2013, 05:22:04 PM

I'm going to buy them and exchange the BTC for Litecoins, which currently cost waaaay more power to generate in comparison. So I really don't feel bad. I will keep them running until they can no longer profit.

You would do better to buy some bitcoins and use those to exchange for litecoins.

Or, you know, buy some litecoins.

If you buy a block erupter at this price, you are guaranteed to get less bitcoin than if you just buy bitcoins. You will also get those less bitcoins over a longer period of time than just buying some bitcoins. So if you want bitcoins, buy some bitcoins, don't but a block erupter.

Same logic applies to litecoins.

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Quote from: buyer on June 25, 2013, 10:29:07 AM

Quote from: Xian01 on June 25, 2013, 10:09:00 AM

Quote from: buyer on June 25, 2013, 08:46:28 AM

Instead Friedcat has just become Inaba2.0

While I completely understand your irritation with the recent pricing adjustment (I share your frustration), I don't believe this is a fair comparison to make, all things considered.

I was implying that the damage he is doing to their brand is as bad as Inaba has done for BFL. I think you will see that if they don't adopt a new pricing policy that they will not become the player they wish to be. BKKCoins knock off is coming faster than you might think and there are hundreds of qualified engineers all around the world trying to duplicate this device.

Volkswagen is the largest car company in the world because they appeal to the common man with their rock solid low priced offerings. Friedcat tried to be mercedes on day one and while that model worked well in the early 1900's it doesn't play in the modern world of 1%'ers.

Damaged the brand? WTF? How? He is the only one that seems to ship when he says he will. His products work. He doesn't do pre-order and I will send to you whenever crap. He doesn't badmouth and call his customers names. As he gets better at manufacturing, he adjusts his price so more people can buy. He is upgrading his products, while most have not even shipped anything yet. He is helpful in posts to customers and the community. And again, he ACTUALLY SHIPS PRODUCTS.

Buyer, actually, he is making a great name for his company. He is the only one in this community I would probably buy a product from in fact.

I bought the very first iphone--paid out the ass for it. I KNEW it would be cheaper, and probably not long after I bought it. But I wanted it NOW. It's the way things work bud...get over it.

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Quote from: buyer on June 25, 2013, 10:33:52 AM

I agree there are many differences between inaba and friedcat. But I believe he is damaging their brand badly with this poorly considered pricing policy.

It sounds like you have a bunch of BTC2 miners at your house. How many?

Brand damage is directly related to the public's memory; six months from now, nobody's going to care or even remember that a few people overpaid for the privilege of being a bleeding-edge early adopter. Note how we don't weep for those who paid $1200 for a PS3 on day one.

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Quote from: buyer on June 25, 2013, 10:38:32 AM

"His goal is more than just topping GM and Toyota financially. By 2018 Volkswagen will be “the world’s most profitable, fascinating and sustainable automobile manufacturer,” Winterkorn says, with annual sales of 10 million vehicles and a pretax profit margin of 8% or higher, compared with the modest 6% on sales of 6.2 million cars and trucks worldwide when he took over in 2007. "

Current Issue of Forbes Magazine.

Pricing affects perception which affects sales. The pricing policy adopted by ASICMINER is attrocious and damaging to their brand image in the short term and the long term. This is not a game.

Go back to bed. Angry

buyer

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"His goal is more than just topping GM and Toyota financially. By 2018 Volkswagen will be “the world’s most profitable, fascinating and sustainable automobile manufacturer,” Winterkorn says, with annual sales of 10 million vehicles and a pretax profit margin of 8% or higher, compared with the modest 6% on sales of 6.2 million cars and trucks worldwide when he took over in 2007. "

Current Issue of Forbes Magazine.

Pricing affects perception which affects sales. The pricing policy adopted by ASICMINER is attrocious and damaging to their brand image in the short term and the long term. This is not a game.

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http://www.top10foru.com/top-10-car-companies-in-the-world-2013/

Actually your both wrong on the car thing. Well, depending on whose list you use. But VW ain't top on any of them.

But seriously, this thread is pathetic. Electronics get cheaper, and better. You all know it. Bitcoin changes at a much faster rate than most things. You all know this too. It's like Apple and the iphone on steroids. OMFG, My iphone from 2010 is only $99.00 now!! WTF?

You all knew this would happen (if you didn't, get out of Bitcoin this instant!). Your just pissed YOU lost money on it, didn't think it would be this soon, etc, etc.

Ya win some ya loose some. Man up. Ya sound like f*cking babies.

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Quote from: buyer on June 25, 2013, 10:29:07 AM

BKKCoins knock off is coming faster than you might think and there are hundreds of qualified engineers all around the world trying to duplicate this device.

That right there is the crucial point. First to market = first to price. Don't like it? Don't buy.

buyer

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Quote from: nubbins on June 25, 2013, 10:27:03 AM

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I was implying that the damage he is doing to their brand is as bad as Inaba has done for BFL.

Until he starts calling customers "fucking assholes", that's not true. Inaba is an actual piece of human shit, and comparing anyone to him is a very grave insult that I hope you'll reconsider.

I agree there are many differences between inaba and friedcat. But I believe he is damaging their brand badly with this poorly considered pricing policy.

nubbins

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It's really difficult to have a discussion with you, when you keep making blank posts and then cutting/pasting paragraphs of text between them all.

buyer

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Quote from: Xian01 on June 25, 2013, 10:09:00 AM

Quote from: buyer on June 25, 2013, 08:46:28 AM

Instead Friedcat has just become Inaba2.0

While I completely understand your irritation with the recent pricing adjustment (I share your frustration), I don't believe this is a fair comparison to make, all things considered.

I was implying that the damage he is doing to their brand is as bad as Inaba has done for BFL. I think you will see that if they don't adopt a new pricing policy that they will not become the player they wish to be. BKKCoins knock off is coming faster than you might think and there are hundreds of qualified engineers all around the world trying to duplicate this device.

Volkswagen is the largest car company in the world because they appeal to the common man with their rock solid low priced offerings. Friedcat tried to be mercedes on day one and while that model worked well in the early 1900's it doesn't play in the modern world of 1%'ers.

nubbins

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Quote from: ?? on ??

I was implying that the damage he is doing to their brand is as bad as Inaba has done for BFL.

Until he starts calling customers "fucking assholes", that's not true. Inaba is an actual piece of human shit, and comparing anyone to him is a very grave insult that I hope you'll reconsider.

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I think you will see that if they don't adopt a new pricing policy that they will not become the player they wish to be.

And what exactly do they wish to be?

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BKKCoins knock off is coming

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hundreds of qualified engineers ... trying

Emphasis mine.

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Volkswagen is the largest car company in the world because they appeal to the common man with their rock solid low priced offerings

Actually, GM is #1. Volks has the #2 spot. Maybe things are different in other countries, but I didn't think VWs were particularly cheap?

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Friedcat tried to be mercedes on day one and while that model worked well in the early 1900's it doesn't play in the modern world of 1%'ers.

I know all those words, but I can't understand what you're trying to say.

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BKKCoins knock off is coming faster than you might think

I have 18 K16's on order through Steamboat's efforts. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make other than more competition entering Bitcoin ASIC-space is a good thing. I would agree with you.

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Hey Viceroy/buyer, stop spamming with blank posts.

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