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hero member
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Yes I see that Hoss, sorry again for messing about.

( Aware i have posted 50 posts!...but i have learnt a bit thanks to forum members. Ok, so i made a silly error with the 2 wallets..but bare in mind i didnt want bitcoin in first place so all very very annoying. )

but - proved wrong i guess..the casino..was telling me the truth ( thereabouts )..see first if i can get other monies.

OK - I have requsted a further final withdrawal.

SO...i am very happy right now!...play a few more slots, might win a little more. I take it, i can withdraw what i want onto an 'address' ( im getting way ahead of myself..its Friday and i have bitcoin!! ).

I'm glad it all worked out for you in the end. Congratulations on your first bitcoin payment, by the way! 

Can we finally find out which casino it was? (I assume that there is no reason to hide that information anymore, and it could help other forum members who may find themselves in a similar situation as you.)

I will bug the forum re how i can peer to peer and fiat ( thats a car right? ) ...once i get the next withdrawal then.

Better to withdraw to cash..smaller amounts?   only talking few hundred unless lucky on the slots of course! feel lucky now!!

Depends on your perspective. For some people, a few hundred dollars might not seem like a lot of money. However, it's generally a good idea to exchange a smaller amount first to test the waters before exchanging a larger sum. This can help ensure that everything goes smoothly.
newbie
Activity: 14
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Yes I see that Hoss, sorry again for messing about.

( Aware i have posted 50 posts!...but i have learnt a bit thanks to forum members. Ok, so i made a silly error with the 2 wallets..but bare in mind i didnt want bitcoin in first place so all very very annoying. )

but - proved wrong i guess..the casino..was telling me the truth ( thereabouts )..see first if i can get other monies.

OK - I have requsted a further final withdrawal.

SO...i am very happy right now!...play a few more slots, might win a little more. I take it, i can withdraw what i want onto an 'address' ( im getting way ahead of myself..its Friday and i have bitcoin!! ).

I will bug the forum re how i can peer to peer and fiat ( thats a car right? ) ...once i get the next withdrawal then.

Better to withdraw to cash..smaller amounts?   only talking few hundred unless lucky on the slots of course! feel lucky now!!

 
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 5213
How much is that?  i think it is ..£306.....so...thats about right I think.
Right.
21.96217 mBTC equals to 0.02196217 BTC. Each bitcoin is now worth around £13,900. So, you have around £306 worth of bitcoin.

there is a green circle next to the amount with a thin 'red' line in the middle....does that mean..its confirmed?  all legit?  cant disappear?
There's nothing to worry about.

SO......can i just use the SAME address then - and withdraw again?
You can use the same address or go to "Addresses" tab and pick a new one.


SORRY for wasting your time Hoss - THANKS for the reply though.  I WAS THE ONE who was going into the wrong wallet!!! must of made two.  Only when forum reply mentioned..did i think to check.
No problem.
I noticed you edited your post after I made the reply. I deleted my post, since it wasn't relevant to the edited version of your post.
newbie
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I created as per OELEO, a seed, got address, sent it to casino...next few days, i open up Electrum...see the address.....have I done something wrong?
Electrum allow you to create as many as wallets you want. The wallet including addresses starting with bc1 is not the one you created following o_e_l_e_o's instruction. That's a different wallet.
For generating a legacy wallet, you went to console tab and generate a seed phrase (a series of 12 words). Did you save that seed phrase? If so, you can use that seed phrase to create your legacy wallet again. Take note that you should save your seed phrase in a safe place. It will be required for recovering your wallet.
Even if you have not saved that seed phrase, you should be able to open that legacy wallet. Click on "File" at top of the window and then select "Open". After that, you should see all your wallets.
Open them one by one to see which one is your legacy wallet (a wallet including addresses starting with 1).

SORRY for wasting your time Hoss, i just re-edit that last email - THANKS for the reply as confirms what I was trying to understand.

 I WAS THE ONE who was going into the wrong wallet!!! must of made two.  Only when forum reply mentioned..did i think to check.

SO....im actually very happy ( and embarressed because i was a little peeved off with the casino ...although to be honest there were a few mis-truths and end of day i dont really want bitcoin..i deposited via mastercard )

ANYWAY - before i ask how i get cash.....i want to withdraw the rest of it...SO...can i copy/paste the SAME adddress...and ( in theory ) the 21..bitcoins will be added too once they send me the next amount?

Simple as that?  bare in mind i do want the cash end of day.

im actually a little excited, i have bitcoin!!!....so...IF...i wait..and the market goes up...i can make more money.....tol you l like my casino slots..i might get addicted to this!!!! - still want to withdraw to cash...but i might leave a little in.
newbie
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I JUST SEND A LENGTHY REPLY.

THEN I JUST TRIED ANOTHER NAME OF WALLET...

I opened it up........and i think...i HAVE received some monies!!!!!

The balance is, 21.96217 mbtc

How much is that?  i think it is ..£306.....so...thats about right I think.

there is a green circle next to the amount with a thin 'red' line in the middle....does that mean..its confirmed?  all legit?  cant disappear?

I think i owe the casino an appology! big time!  ( although will wait before i try another withdrawal first )


SO......can i just use the SAME address then - and withdraw again?
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 5213
WHY do all my addresses, including the one i sent to casino site start with 'bc1'   - What changed?  
This means that it's a different wallet. Even if the casino send you the fund, it won't appear in this wallet.
For recovering that legacy wallet, you need its seed phrase or its file.
Did you save the seed phrase electrum gave you when you generated that legacy wallet? If so, you can use that seed phrase to generate your legacy wallet again.
You can also click on "File" at top of the window and open your legacy wallet.


SO.....what has happened within my Electrum wallet? ( again that address expires in 1day ...but led to believe on here...its no problem whether it expires or not...BUT IF..you tell me to create via 'seed' another address shall i set it to keep ' NEVER expire or like before, just for 7days? )
This has already been answered.
Addresses do not expire. Don't worry about the expiry time.
legendary
Activity: 1526
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Edited.  Sorry I was too quick too reply Yes my screen looks like this but I think my addresses begin with bc.   Following seed process it worked and accepted. Just trying for another withdrawal and address not accepted..would address of altered   to  bc?   So, I will try recall what I did first time. I think it is my error regarding trying to add another address not casino's. Hoped to just copy paste existing address or one from that list.  Still a little concerned that expires in a day..despite what you all saying. Just don't want give casino a excuse not to pay out saying that address no longer valid. WHY when creating seed does give option to never expire a  address. I chose 7 days.

I do not know if it is just me, but I am having trouble understanding the full meaning of your messages. Could you please be more clear and concise in your writing? As much as I would like to help you, I don't feel comfortable answering questions that I don't understand fully.

I can comment only on the last part of your question: the addresses in your Bitcoin wallet do not expire. So I don't know where you got such information from. If you are able to share a screenshot of something like that, please do so.



Edit: I noticed now that you made changes to your original message.

Looking at all your messages, though, I am afraid there is a significant risk that you will make a mistake somewhere and lose your coins! Creating a Bitcoin wallet and receiving payments is not as complicated as you make it out to be. With that in mind, I strongly recommend that you pause what you are doing and seek out the assistance of someone you trust.
newbie
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re-edited from an earlier post - having now checked my wallet re addresses.

I checked and although screen looks the same, 'receiving' green addresses, they all start with bc1.

NOW - what i am very confused about is,

I followed OELEO instructions - creating a 'seed' etc..and yes, it worked and yes the casino withdrawal allowed me to send the address code ( whereas before, previous address, using Wasabi etc, the withdraw button remained greyed out ). SO - definately, creating the seed etc worked.

( i am still waiting on my bitcoin of course - as previously mentiond 10 business days etc etc - BUT - it was 'accepted' on the casino site. )

SO - that aside - what i am curious about is,

WHY do all my addresses, including the one i sent to casino site start with 'bc1'   - What changed?  

I cannot withdraw via casino using 'bc1'......

SO -  somehwhere along the line the address i put into casino which works..now is viewed as 'bc1'.

Can you shed light?

I want to create another address ( OR, as other have said on here, using one of the 'green receive addresses'...but as mentioned, unlike your screenshot - mine appear 'bc1'.


SO.....what has happened within my Electrum wallet? ( again that address expires in 1day ...but led to believe on here...its no problem whether it expires or not...BUT IF..you tell me to create via 'seed' another address shall i set it to keep ' NEVER expire or like before, just for 7days? )

APPRECIATE any replies.  I am waiting everyday for this withdrawal to go through.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1359
Can i just pick the ( copy address ) next one down..i think i have 10 or 15 'green' ones. 

Simple as that.  Have to say, i did try it, bc1 etc...and still didnt let me 'withdraw'..i dont think its the 'shady casino' in this case..i just think the first Electrum address i generated allowed me to put it in...addresses look the same, bc1.... 

If you did everything as o_e_l_e_o explained here, how did you get the addresses that start with "bc1"? All your addresses should start with "1" (legacy addresses).

Does your Electrum addresses windows look something like this?


There is no need to try bech32 addresses (bc1...) because you have already discovered that your "shady casino" only accepts legacy addresses.
newbie
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I seem to be replying to my own messages!!!

However, i do have a question.

Although i am still waiting for my withdrawal, as, on the casino site, it has been processed for days, so in theory allows me to withdraw again an amount.  I used the same address as previous ( as you all have said its fine to do even though will expire )...BUT...it did not accept it. So, so i need to re-generate the seed? If you recall, the issue with Wasbi wallet was that wouldnt accept it, but benefit of Electrum wallet was the address it generated did allow it to go through.

Now, i know i have loads of addresses I can use ( green / Type receiving ), the first one being the one im waiting on because i labeled it, 'casino'.

Can i just pick the ( copy address ) next one down..i think i have 10 or 15 'green' ones. 

Simple as that.  Have to say, i did try it, bc1 etc...and still didnt let me 'withdraw'..i dont think its the 'shady casino' in this case..i just think the first Electrum address i generated allowed me to put it in...addresses look the same, bc1.... 

I must be missing a step...maybe i have to generate another 'seed'?

( im learning here, sorry for the emails, did say wouldnt email again for a while..but just annoying me, waiting around, thought i would push things along try withdraw 2nd amount )
newbie
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I pushed and prodded, so annoying about waiting longer..

any truth in this then;

"..The 10 days is the maximum timescale for BTC withdrawals, usually they proceed faster, within 5 days..."

and again it is not possible to give you a transaction id.


The good news is, i will not bug this thread any longer...i will wait till money magically appears..or perhaps in 10days time an update...im sure you are on the edge of your seats!!

But in the meantime, i will check , to see if i get any kind replies, I would love to know if..what they are saying bares any truth...possible...a case of just wait and see.


Thanks once again for your replies and time. If you have any other thoughts / how to proceed / or a question to ask them let me know ...but clearly out of ideas...nothing i can do.

I do see this as a form of theft, they accept monies but do not dish out, but they are from what i gather, unlicenced like a lot of these casinos are so ...an odd complaint here/there - isnt going to do much I guess.

Moral is -chose your casino wisely..better still..stick to gambling with bitcoin ..i guess..looks like i will never know how it all works as right now..i do not have any!! 

newbie
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..well..im going to keep hounding this forum so long as the casino refuses me!!!!!  we all lose!!! i hope you are enjoying the saga to claim a few hundred euros of bitcoin!!!

So, still nothing in wallet.

I emailed them, again, speedy replies. I asked to supply me with the transaction ID.

They didnt.

Their responce below,

"...We see that your withdrawal request was marked as "completed" on 03.01.2023, transfer to your Bitcoin wallet may take up to 10 business days. Bitcoin transactions are fast, however, it depends on how loaded is the system at the moment. I kindly ask you not to worry, your request was reviewed successfully, all that is left is to wait for the transaction to be processed..."

Now - previously, they mentioned can take up to 5days.   I have gone back to them mentioning this...like peeing in the wind of course...and asking again for transaction ID.

THOUGHTS WELCOME -  I'm aware from your previous comments, this is all ..not normal etc......BUT.....the ' loaded up system'....any 'truth' to that?

Ok..save you the reply.  No.

------ i am wondering whether i now put through the final request for monies...using the SAME address ( yes, it expires in 2days, but youve all assurred me this isnt a problem ).. What do you think?  THEY SAY, 'dont worry..processed..'...shall i put through other request....or wait for first monies to come through???

They have just come back to me, below -
"..Unfortunately, we don't provide transaction ID for BTC withdrawals."

Kindly asking me to 'wait'.

Thoughts again welcome?
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Bit concerned re you saying peer to peer etc...but for now...just want casinotopay in..then take it from there. 

Regarding the mention of peer-to-peer exchange, this usually refers to a type of financial transaction that occurs directly between two parties, without the need for a financial institution or other centralized platforms. For example, you could simply transfer the money directly from your wallet to your friend's wallet.

When you receive coins from the casino in your wallet, you have the option of choosing how you want to exchange BTC for fiat currency. You can use centralized or decentralized exchanges, or you can opt for a peer-to-peer (P2P). You can even sell on a forum if you prefer. In this case, it would be a good idea to use a reputable escrow service to ensure a secure transaction.
newbie
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Your post is quite ambiguous. Are you going to withdraw cryptocurrency from the casino website? Is the total important? Do you intend to withdraw your Bitcoin? Because of certain recent problems, blockchain is not entirely safe. If your prize is in Bitcoin, create a non-custodial wallet, like Electrum, to receive it. From Electrum, you may transmit it anyplace. You must use a peer-to-peer exchange if you wish to withdraw your Bitcoin. Later, you can exchange your Bitcoin for local money using Binance (Fiat). Ple ase respond to these questions in order to receive an appropriate response from this source. And don't worry, you can discover a solution by reading the posts here. When working with significant sums of money, you should buy

Txt typing so keep it short.thanks for replies. Later today will check wallet..if nothing there will ask for transaction.id. Daddy,sorry finding my messages ambiguous. But messaged a lot sometimes asking wrong questions. Simple really. Given runaround from casino. Withdrawals total around 350euro would like it I wallet then changed to cash. Bit concerned re you saying peer to peer etc...but for now...just want casinotopay in..then take it from there. 
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Your post is quite ambiguous. Are you going to withdraw cryptocurrency from the casino website? Is the total important? Do you intend to withdraw your Bitcoin? Because of certain recent problems, blockchain is not entirely safe. If your prize is in Bitcoin, create a non-custodial wallet, like Electrum, to receive it. From Electrum, you may transmit it anyplace. You must use a peer-to-peer exchange if you wish to withdraw your Bitcoin. Later, you can exchange your Bitcoin for local money using Binance (Fiat). Please respond to these questions in order to receive an appropriate response from this source. And don't worry, you can discover a solution by reading the posts here. When working with significant sums of money, you should buy
hero member
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🇺🇦 Glory to Ukraine!
Sensing ahead hear and expecting the ol' familar ala Mastercard tech.difficulties scenerio.  IF 'the payment provider? required more confirmation'...IS there anything they need from me? I am well aware, this is all guff, delay technique etc etc...BUT...to call their bluff so to speak...IF monies never received ( and heck i could be proved wrong here! )  due to 'confirmation of the transaction'.  Is there anything i can 'prove' . I only have the Electon wallet..thats it, setup in minutes...no proof or ID. etc   Just again curious...whilst I wait.

All very annoying, fustrating but determined to see it through.

It is not your responsibility to prove anything to them. Instead, they should provide proof to you that they sent the payment. You can check the status of the transaction and view all relevant details, such as the amount, sender and recipient addresses, and transaction fees, by looking up the transaction ID. This will allow you to confirm whether the transaction has been successfully processed or not. But you can't do that if you don't have a transaction ID.

By the way, it's Electrum wallet, not Electon. Sometimes correct terminology is very important to avoid confusion.
newbie
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Hello there,

There is no update, no magic money appears in my wallet.

Thank you once again for your replies and explaining, yes my wallet has the green circle so all good to go.

So, this is..day..4 i guess, since i put the request through. As you know, i queried this 'try bitcoin much faster' method the casino tells me. And then says 5days.

I emailed them again, always quick to reply, i sense english not their first langague and certaintly automated with many replies.


SO - going by your thoughts , what i have read on here...all this waiting around malarky. I asked them, again, polietly, whats the hold up!

Their reply, below,

"..A payment provider is a gateway for transactions between online services and customers. Usually, transactions do not take much time, but it may take if the payment processor requires additional confirmation of the transaction. We apologize if the delay causes inconvenience, but we appreciate your patience.   "

SO...what do i say to that, 'ok thanks for the info'...or shall i question further?   The 'processor required additional confirmation ' ....intresting ( sounding similar to when i got my mastercard rejections albeit within hours not days ).

Sensing ahead hear and expecting the ol' familar ala Mastercard tech.difficulties scenerio.  IF 'the payment provider? required more confirmation'...IS there anything they need from me? I am well aware, this is all guff, delay technique etc etc...BUT...to call their bluff so to speak...IF monies never received ( and heck i could be proved wrong here! )  due to 'confirmation of the transaction'.  Is there anything i can 'prove' . I only have the Electon wallet..thats it, setup in minutes...no proof or ID. etc   Just again curious...whilst I wait.

All very annoying, fustrating but determined to see it through.
legendary
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Why then does it clearly state, in my electon wallet, STATUS - expires in 4days.  And i could chose , never expire or 1day or 7days expire.
Once again, this is an internal accounting feature of Electrum only, and is completely irrelevant to the issue at hand. It does not matter at all if the address "expires". You will receive your bitcoin once the service sends them, regardless of whether your address has expired or not.

Think of it like adding some notes to a contact on your phone. It helps you keep track of some information (in this case, how soon you wanted the payment), but it makes no difference whatsoever to the other party calling you. The other party does not even know it exists.

As I wait for my..regional service provider..to validate my withdraw....curious to know. My electon walletsittinf on my desktop. It feels..detached so to speak. I suppose the lack of activity is the reason. Just sitting there no figures coming in or out....so..it is live right?  Everytime I log in in theory it would auto update...should I receive anything.
When you open Electrum, you should see a green circle at the bottom right. This means it is connected and fulled synced with the network. If you see this green circle, then your wallet is fully up to date and if you don't see any coins it means they haven't been sent.

I don't plan to request another withdrawal until I receive this first one..but when I do can I just take the same address..even though 3days expires? I know what you have said that addresses don't really expire.
Correct. You can use the same address again, even if Electrum says it has expired.
newbie
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As I wait for my..regional service provider..to validate my withdraw....curious to know. My electon walletsittinf on my desktop. It feels..detached so to speak. I suppose the lack of activity is the reason. Just sitting there no figures coming in or out....so..it is live right?  Everytime I log in in theory it would auto update...should I receive anything.  Also I don't plan to request another withdrawal until I receive this first one..but when I do can I just take the same address..even though 3days expires? I know what you have said that addresses don't really expire.
newbie
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Well, the very latest reply, is below ( not that i want to duplicate but when logging back into this forum i read through a few replies to my previous thread..how to convert to cash...keeping an open mind here..and hoping against hope..i will someday actually get my bicoins from them ),

BUT - going by what your saying...yes...sounds unlikely right, latest reply;


"..Your withdrawal already was completed from the our side, so for now it's being processed by the payment provider of your region. Please wait for any update from your payment application..."


I mean..its all rubbish isnt it really. Provider in your region...just rubbish...i dont understand as you know bitcoin/wallets..but even going by what you an others ( and they themselves have said in past re how quick it is )...all rubbish re my regional payment providers!!!!  I sent them an address, as you all mentioned to do, thats it. Simple.

Nothing showing my my electron wallet.

But..back is against the wall, what can i do. I have 'poliety' asked them to clarify the situation...and these are the types of replies im getting. So...just have to see.

I will update this thread. Im a betting man...the odds that i come back and say, ' transaction cancelled due to payment provider techincal issues' ..
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