Topic: BLOCKCHAIN account- Newbie - how to get one? - page 3. (Read 576 times)

It is only related to your payment request that you created (consider it something like a payment order). While payment requests are not strictly required in Bitcoin transactions, they can make the process simpler by providing a recipient with all the necessary information for payment in a single request.

I believe that some members have previously mentioned that you can obtain your receiving BTC address from the list in the Addresses tab, without the need to create a payment request.


This is exactly why I said that the entire process appears suspicious. Please note that this has nothing to do with Bitcoin transactions. If the payment had been made and the transaction completed, you would already see the BTC in your wallet.

Why then does it clearly state, in my electon wallet, STATUS - expires in 4days.  And i could chose , never expire or 1day or 7days expire.

Just as i ..have to wait.. want to make sure that at the last minute 'address expired' so they cannot complete the 'process' of sending me any 'coins' via their 'payment provider' ( my worry is this payment provider is the one which is to blame for stopping me withdrawing to mastercard ' technical issues via payment provider'.

As for your continual comment re 'what casino'. I have made it very clear, i can understand you asking, but as im in communication with them im not prepared to comment BUT, as i keep saying, they are the 'same' as so many 'not on gamstop' casinos.  Plenty Of Fish, Midnight Wins, Yummy Wins, Magic Win, Milky Wins...literally they use THE EXACT SAME setup. The same layout, games, the same standard email responces. I think they operate without a licence, whether they 'loan' the site i have no idea.  I have ( sadly ) been on most of them, and deposited money, enjoyed the slots, my 'hobby' if you like. Once i withdrew, and it worked, with a little effort. But mostly i just lose.  As mentioned, this time, i want to see it through and withdraw...and having these difficulties.

I apprecaite all your replies and help and advice. i was hoping I was going to check my Electon today and be asking, i have the money how can i covert it too cash!!!..instead..im been fobbed out and told to wait longer!!....its only a few hundred euros, around 350...so converting to pounds, bitcoin fees etc etc..who knows...but..im this far..and want to see it through. Actually annoying me trust be told. Complaints will be lodged about casino - fwiw.

SO, thanks again.  I was told on here, that instant really..so all this waiting...is ridicolous...but perhaps..you might think, yes, you can wait sometimes...so not unusual.

Time will tell.

Please let me know though about that 'expires' , despite what your saying...i really dont want it too expire..if i can alter it now? expires 4days, they say wait 5days.
EDIT - I re-read your replies - OK - i understand now about expires..ok, if your saying no need to worry about that, then i wont. the latest reply below,  ( i asked why the wait );

"...Since the funds were sent to the payment provide for the further transaction, it may take very fast to reach your btc wallet, but only after it will be sent on it by the providers.  .."

yep, these are the people im dealing with!!!

I've edited my previous reply. Based on my understanding of the situation, it seems that the only option available is to wait.
There's no need to worry about your addresses expiring. They remain valid indefinitely.

Although, I agree with o_e_l_e_o, the whole situation sounds suspicious. When will we find out which casino it is?

I have never known of a site to send money to another service first before sending it to you, but I suppose it could be possible. All seems very shady to me though.

Once the bitcoin is actually sent, it should show up (albeit as "unconfirmed") in your Electrum wallet instantly. You'll see it on the "History" tab.

It's completely irrelevant. The expiry is an internal function of Electrum to help you keep track of payment requests you have made. It makes absolutely no difference to you receiving payments and it does not matter if it expires. You can ignore it.

There is nothing else you can do at the moment except wait 5 days and see if they actually make the transaction or if they are scammers.

thanks for the reply.

Well, theres literally nothing to show you. honestly. just says withdrawal accepted.

TYPE
WITHDRAWAL
METHOD
BTC
DATE
1/1/23
SUM
230EURO
ACCEPTED

If you note, i added to my last commnet - i emailed them there - so see those extra lines i added there..me waiting 5more days?

what do you think?

and...my concern that the 'address' expires in 4days.

Could you take a screenshot of the specified screen, while censoring any sensitive data to protect privacy?


You can view all transactions into and out of your wallet in the History tab.


As a general practice, it is advisable to keep your software up-to-date. However, in this specific case, updating the software wouldn't make a difference.

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Transactions on the bitcoin network are typically visible immediately upon being initiated, and most are subsequently confirmed within a few minutes to a few hours. The confirmation time can vary depending on the current state of the network and the transaction fee amount.


It's difficult to provide an opinion without knowing which casino you're referring to and how they handle payouts, so it would be helpful if you could share a link to their terms of service.


Your addresses never expire and can be used to receive payments indefinitely.

Further update....

Although waiting on your kind replies..... I chased with the casino help there , and was told, below,


"........The funds were debited from your account and sent to the payment provider of your region for the further transaction. It will reach your btc wallet up to 5 days. ..."

they went on, ".....Since all requests are being processed on a first basis, first come, it may take for a while. We kindly ask you to wait for the notification from the cryptocurrency application.   "


SO - i was led to believe, and yourself did say as well, that really this should come through instantly really.

SO..thoughts?

My 1 concern is....that address expires now in '4days'....  so.....what does that mean?  


I am reluncant to make my final withdraw, and will wait ( i have no choice have i!!!! )  - BUT, should i change the 'expire' to ...'never expire'?..can i alter that?  IF..i withdraw again, can i alter it / should i alter it?   what is all this about 'payment provider'  - are they just messing me about?   fair enough mastercard ( the payment provider technical difficulites malarky )..but WHO is the payment provider in BTC case?  They have taken the money out of my casino account...approved it......and ..now....waiting....

update -well the casino states 'accepted' my withdrawal and money deducted from my casino account. couple hundred.

This was earlier this morning. Just checked my Electrum wallet..and..nothing in there.  Does it appear in a specific place?  do i click on something?  i dont want to 'search' in the wallet too much as i dont know what im doing and not wanting to 'delete' anything.

But, certaintly, under 'receive' nothing appears - just the same as it looked before.
URI
ADDRESS  - shows the address which i gave to the casino.
LIGHTENING ( ? )

Receive queue - has the date/name i called it / expires in now 4days.

Anywhere it could be sitting?  you mentioned 'confirm'  - cannot see any of that.  Before i go back to casino and 'complain'.

it does say, 'update to Electrum 4.3.3 is avaiable?   Shall i click the update?

I did close it down yesterday and open it today - as mentioned - nothings changed.

( i went into coins and addresses...doesnt state anything different..no coins etc )

Pending on the casino website you mean? This means they haven't actually sent the transaction yet. Some sites wait for several customers to withdraw and then batch all the transactions together. You'll probably just have to wait longer. Once the transaction is actually broadcast you'll see the coins show up in your Electrum wallet - first as "unconfirmed", and then they will confirm a little later, depending on the state of the network at the time.

Correct.

Reedited  yes my Bitcoin addresses appear in that way but no..begins with bc  .  Now I did do it the way shown..create seed and as mentioned before it worked allowing me to withdraw..still actually waiting but won't go into all that again  .  But,I am going to request another withdrawal so....my question is...I used same address bc...but didn't work. That's definitely my error...do..I'm not sure..do I go through the same seed creation process again?....I know others have said I can use those addresses..as mentioned don't work in the withdrawal
 I will check later today.   Still very conscious that the first seed I created  is expiring in 1day...and yet haven't received anything too it.  Aware if what others have said though.

You can use the same address again, or you can you use a different address from the same wallet. It makes no difference in the long run. You do not need to go through the process I gave above of generating a set of seed words a second time.

They cannot claw it back. Bitcoin transactions are irreversible. Once it is in you wallet, it will stay there until you send it somewhere else (provided your computer is not hacked or anything like that). Make sure the 12 words you wrote down are kept safe and offline, and never share them with anyone since you can use them to gain access to your wallet.

Looking at the current state of the network, your transaction should be confirmed by now and your coins should be in your wallet.

if it gets into the wallet it needs a confirm.

for all intents and purposes once it gets a confirm it will stay in the wallet.

good luck and happy new years.

THANKS once again for the replies.

Still waiting - not crossing any fingers here.

But - ok -so i wont bug you again, but you say i can use the SAME address - which i just generated for this first withdrawal...i simply copy paste the same one...when i want to withdraw the 2nd ( final ) amount. As mentioned, split it basically in have my withdrawal.

SO - thats ok do use the same address.  Thank you in advance for any replies.

( if monies come in, i will have to look at transferring ..but ill be happier with that process as at least i dont have to rely on casinos...and they cannot claw it back right? or ..an error and it 'disappears' from my wallet )



Right leave you in peace, thanks once again for your help.

yeah take a look at my old address it has hundreds of ins and outs.

its nerve wracking to learn this all.

may I suggest do not use casinos for a while.

read different posts feel free to ask questions.

many of us will try to answer.

I gave you a merit for two reasons. persistence and politeness.

thank you for that.

You do not need to generate a new seed for a new transaction. It is perfectly fine to create a new withdrawal to the same BTC address again. All addresses from your wallet are reusable.

Right! WILL DO.



Going in - wish me luck!

There... sent it...went through...waiting...could be a half days wait or 5min..till its 'rejected'!! who knows)

I looking forward to my bitcoins!!! ( IF it works....see how stuipt i am..i actually think im going to get it!!...if it works..i will make a final request...i only withdraw couple hundred..still have 150euro left in there....so....i will do the exact same process...generate a new seed..just..click the button....simple as that...and in my wallet i will have  2 lots of bitcoins amounting to around 350 euro. Right? )

( Wont keep bugging the forum, sorry for the emails...and the metrobank..they advising me to try some Weinsteinbank?? looked it up etc...i dunno...2023..stay away from casinos right!! wakeup call!! )

There is no need to worry or feel unsure about this process. We are here to guide you through it step by step, so just take a deep breath and be patient. We will help you through it.

The bunch of green (and orange) addresses you see in the Address tab of your wallet are all your addresses. You can use any of them to receive funds.


Yes, that should be fine. Double check that the address shown in the Receive tab of your wallet is identical to the one you pasted in the casino (visually check at least the last few digits). It is a good idea to start by withdrawing the smallest possible amount to ensure that everything is working correctly.

All those addresses are yours, don't worry. Get the first green one and you're OK.
Or get the one from the Receive tab and you're most probably OK with that too (that address too is most probably in that big list)

getting somewhere....again.... i have no intention of dragging this out now...doing my head in!

Well, as per previous, Electron, used that 'seed' ( despite the scary warning ) , and it works as in...it goes into the withdraw on casino...and lets me press the withdraw..i havent ..yet.

SO, my questions are ( same as previous email ),

The time limit, 7days - that ok?  what does that mean>?    just if casino doesnt honour it the seed wont work after 7days...doesnt mean i will lose anything IF i did get any monies withdrawn into it?

- I simply went into 'receive' pressed to generate..i have that..copy and pasted....thats it?

- and IF i want to withdraw again  ( i just use the seed like before, new wallet, receive, get the address line, insert, withdraw..and  in my Electon wallet i will have ..2 lots of...around 350 euro ( in bits ).


Yes? please say yes.  Missing anything?

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I feel like im going to go ...... !!!

SO - Neurotic.....i went into 'view' and what comes up is a LOAD of 'receiving' ( green colour ) and a few 'yellow' colours. What the...is that!!!!!

SO... TOTALLY CONFUSED.

What are they? i am now worried...i give the dodgy casino a address..which is useless so even if they were geninue...id still not get the monies!!

-  HERES what i was going to do.    Please just tell me, its right.

- I have ( already ) pressed, Receive ( following on from previous instructions from previous email ) , and an addreess comes up, as mentioned 7days...thanks for explaining that....i didnt put the amount in.  That ok>?      SO....i will take this address and give it too casino site ( which as mentioned i tried..and works...in that seems ok...but havent pressed the actual withdraw button ).

THATS IT.  yes? Ignore all those green and yellows addresses! in the View TAB.

Easier: Do View->Show Addresses
Go to Addresses tab
Copy (CTRL-C) the first address from there and you're good. (it starts with 1, right?)

PS. In the "receive" area it's not the address that's expiring, it's the "request", and that doesn't matter much. However, working with the addresses tab can be easier for your peace of mind.