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Quote from: ManoPrimitiva on June 06, 2019, 05:41:58 AM

Some countries have already run trials, it is a delicate subject and blockchain technology as any other new technology must be tested and since voting doesn't happen that often, I believe it will take some time before we see it as a reality. Check these articles about the trial in Switzerland and the plans in Japan to do so:

In practice, the main issue will be the proof of identity, because even when the national id number can be use to identify the voter in the blockchain, there is no guarantee it will be used by the real citizen. If polls happen in a typical way, going to a physical place, then a standard procedure may be used to id a person, representative will check the official valid ID and then the voter can scan it in a device and vote on a screen instead of paper; if the polls are run on devices, such as personal computers or smartphones, some sort of biometrics recognition system must be used.

And then there is the politicians will... I believe all of them cheat, so, to authorize this technology is like shooting in their own foot.

Voting on devices like smartphones or computers will raise a lot of questions and the elections' integrity. Blockchain is very useful but people will still prefer to see themselves vote physically there with the officials ensuring they are real people listed in the designated precinct. In my country, people still don't trust automated elections entirely so I'm sure that blockchain system will sort that out.

You can still physically go there. You can have a voting machine like a btc ATM but for voting. I also agree doing it from any location online might not work. People will prefer to do it in person. Also in person it is under suraliance and offials are around. Also the vote will be done through an official machine not just anyones phone.

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Quote from: marksandtoday on June 06, 2019, 01:23:17 AM

Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

Using a Decentralized Voting system might show a transparent yet safe way of voting. Present technologies on third world countries like their voting systems might lead to Corruption. Voting systems should be at least one of the most high-end technology in a country and should have the best quality of components that is used. Machines in some countries are easily broken and manipulated due to corrupt politicians that wants to win so bad. Having a Decentralized System can help us keep track of every voting that has happened and the security of this systems are very high.

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That is a breakthrough, if there is a country implementing a general election or presidential election with a blockchain system, that is a very good innovation. I think the budget or financial expenditure of a country will be more economical. I had heard that Estonia had implemented it (online voting). Large populated countries, such as Indonesia, deserve to implement a blockchain-based online voting system.

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Quote from: Adriano2010 on June 06, 2019, 03:03:45 AM

As i know no, there is not any country who use blockchain for voting, maybe only if governments will see how blockchain works will make this possible on future if they want.

Based on what I read here in the forum, blockchain could be a good system for voting though it wasn't tested yet and proven to have work properly if we use it in voting. But I doubt it if the government will recommend bitcoin to be used in voting since most people in the government is against blockchain.

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Quote from: ManoPrimitiva on June 06, 2019, 05:41:58 AM

Some countries have already run trials, it is a delicate subject and blockchain technology as any other new technology must be tested and since voting doesn't happen that often, I believe it will take some time before we see it as a reality. Check these articles about the trial in Switzerland and the plans in Japan to do so:

In practice, the main issue will be the proof of identity, because even when the national id number can be use to identify the voter in the blockchain, there is no guarantee it will be used by the real citizen. If polls happen in a typical way, going to a physical place, then a standard procedure may be used to id a person, representative will check the official valid ID and then the voter can scan it in a device and vote on a screen instead of paper; if the polls are run on devices, such as personal computers or smartphones, some sort of biometrics recognition system must be used.

And then there is the politicians will... I believe all of them cheat, so, to authorize this technology is like shooting in their own foot.

Voting on devices like smartphones or computers will raise a lot of questions and the elections' integrity. Blockchain is very useful but people will still prefer to see themselves vote physically there with the officials ensuring they are real people listed in the designated precinct. In my country, people still don't trust automated elections entirely so I'm sure that blockchain system will sort that out.

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using the blockchain system as a vote app, I've heard this idea but so far I don't know anyone has implemented it. which I know the government has an vote application and there are independent parties who also do calculations. both calculations are not integrated and are only used as a correction tool. actually if integrated it can be said as a mini blockchain network.

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I have not heard that there is a country where use blockchain for voting. I have not heard any news that it has been done in any country. Yes may be in the future, but till now I know that nothing has happened and if someone knows something like this, then share it.

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Sounds like a good idea however, correct me if I am wrong on my understand, using Blockchain technology in voting would make voting reliant on internet and continuous supply of electricity. Without this two (internet and electricity) does that mean voting or elections will be postponed? Does that also mean anyone with access to this two can sabotage the elections or voting process.

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I would love to see this implemented in our country but I think there are some constraints that will allow the use of blockchain for elections. Like there should be secrecy on a person's vote. If we use blockchain, everything can be seen in the blockchain. Then there are concerns for tx fees and confirmation time because there will be influx on transactions on the day of the election.

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Quote from: marksandtoday on June 06, 2019, 01:23:17 AM

Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

If you search Kenya, if I'm not mistaken, you used a vote through Blockchain. But, cryptos like Decred and others have been doing this for a long time.

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It is indeed very good and suitable to be applied to voting activities to determine the number of votes, of course this is very necessary for election activities that require high integrity in vote counting, with blockchain technology that is transparent and cannot be manipulated we can run elections with high integrity and quality

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There were several news in the past about some countries introducing blockchain voting, most turned out to be false.
It'd be surprising if any government accepts public blockchain voting ... not with private blockchain nor other secretive stuff.
The technology is possible but none ever discusses it

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I think no company has tried to use Blockchain technology in their vote counting machines. It woukd be a nice project however, imagine that it will be used only if there are elections and elections dont happen every year or every other year so I guess they would rather stick to what they have right now.

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Quote from: MakeMoneyBtc on June 06, 2019, 01:33:03 AM

The only place were I've heard something about Blockchain voting is in a TV series called ,, Billions'' where a governor wanted to implement this so that vote can't be manipulated anymore. I've never seen or read any news I'm the real life about a country thinking about implementing Blockchain in their election system and that's probably because most governments are corrupt and they know if that gets approved they can't manipulate the voting system anymore in their favor.

So there is none really, maybe because if they did such they could be overthrown in their position. I see how powerful is Blockchain being used in a voting season. Especially places where vote buying and ghost voters are rampant like here in our country. Imagine people who have already died long years ago does vote, how come?

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Honestly, I used to pursue and convince people that blockchain is really the answer/solution to this major problem in politics. Blockchain technology is really the best opportunity to make election safe, secure and accurate. However, ignorance always wins against innovation and possibilities. They are keeping their minds close and wanted their egos to dominate and that is the reason why we are losing with these fights.

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On a full-blown election, I don't think that there are countries with blockchain-ready systems to accommodate an election so big. Perhaps on mock elections and small-scale elections the tech could be used, but I can't imagine it being used on a national scale so much that the fate of the whole country is rested upon. Perhaps they can only use this on the counting and transmitting of votes but not on the actual voting per se, as most citizens would surely be confused for the first time if a country is to shift its voting process overnight.

Quote from: Theb on June 06, 2019, 12:34:48 PM

So far the only known country to have officially used blockchain technology to its election is Thailand, however this isn't tested in the general election but through a party election for their democratic party. The election was reportedly to be successful and there were no faults found with the system. Now I am seeing news that they will implement this next with their general elections, the bad thing about this is I've been seeing news that they'll be allowing home voting for their citizens which I think will be the biggest fault in the system in terms of transparency. Even if they implement a trusty blockchain based voting system but they can't monitor and facilitate the voters their new system will be useless, I won't sacrifice security for convenience for the fairness of the election.

What I'm interested in is how would they develop the blockchain to handle stress, especially during the transmission of votes and the counting of votes as well.

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So far the only known country to have officially used blockchain technology to its election is Thailand, however this isn't tested in the general election but through a party election for their democratic party. The election was reportedly to be successful and there were no faults found with the system. Now I am seeing news that they will implement this next with their general elections, the bad thing about this is I've been seeing news that they'll be allowing home voting for their citizens which I think will be the biggest fault in the system in terms of transparency. Even if they implement a trusty blockchain based voting system but they can't monitor and facilitate the voters their new system will be useless, I won't sacrifice security for convenience for the fairness of the election.

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Quote from: marksandtoday on June 06, 2019, 01:23:17 AM

Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

No, i've never seen any country use this for their election, maybe they won't even use it, you know it's not that politics is hard. maybe it should be admitted that election requires transparency but the blockchain is not a solution to various problems. If any government know how transparency blockchain is, they wouldn't recommend this to the election. They afraid not being elected again.

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Quote from: sehoon on June 06, 2019, 08:48:52 AM

Firstly, I don't know any countries that implement blockchain technology in their voting system and they still prefer bad companies like Smartmatic. And there are a lot of problems when it comes to the voting system of our country. They say that blockchain can stop tampering of information but it won't solve problems. But I think blockchain can lessen some of the big problems in these voting systems.

I guess we need to look at how the infrastructure is being set-up in your country. I don't know how many times your country has been using this services, but it seems they need to be replace by someone so that these kind of problems will be eliminated.

I'm all in for blockchain to be used in election, as long as the government is prepared and not just because they just wanted to ride the hype around this technology, specially developing countries.

At least in the US when it comes to elections they don't let hype push the way forward, there are many places using paper ballots still.

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Quote from: marksandtoday on June 06, 2019, 01:23:17 AM

Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

i don't think that there would be any country that will allow their citizens to vote via a decentralized platform.
They don't want transparency apparently so they will try to hide the process as much as they can. My question is when this voting will take place in the blockchain, what makes the nodes to be trusted?

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