Topic: blockchain spam - page 2. (Read 3086 times)
Disable free transactions or have a master node(like GOLEM) which is a decentralized super computer to filter low fees or no fees transactions.
Komodo is using the bitcoin blockchain to notarize KMD transactions (dPoW)
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.
The email spamers are using Internet infrastructure for advertizing buisnesses.
Nobody says that they want to break Internet down
and force users to use another ways to communicate.But email letters are spam for receptients.
And komodo transactions are spam from bitcoin user point of view.
Ok I got your point
To explain it, i saw a mention of this thread initially on https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mother-of-all-spam-attacks-on-bitcoin-network-proof-1776143 so my intervention was mostly to tell people that are searching for spam attacks to ignore the addresses mentioned above.
By attacks i mean actions to affect BTC network on purpose.
Now, even if i like your analogy, considering that komodo transactions are spamming the BTC blockchain is indeed a question of point of view...
Hopefully there won't be other coins that decide to do things like this in the future; blocks are already full enough as it is and we don't need more txs on the chain. Komodo had a great initiative but it's just bogging down the bitcoin blockchain with its method of tx verification.
Komodo is using the bitcoin blockchain to notarize KMD transactions (dPoW)
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.
The email spamers are using Internet infrastructure for advertizing buisnesses.
Nobody says that they want to break Internet down
and force users to use another ways to communicate.But email letters are spam for receptients.
And komodo transactions are spam from bitcoin user point of view.
Ok I got your point
To explain it, i saw a mention of this thread initially on https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mother-of-all-spam-attacks-on-bitcoin-network-proof-1776143 so my intervention was mostly to tell people that are searching for spam attacks to ignore the addresses mentioned above.
By attacks i mean actions to affect BTC network on purpose.
Now, even if i like your analogy, considering that komodo transactions are spamming the BTC blockchain is indeed a question of point of view...
Komodo is using the bitcoin blockchain to notarize KMD transactions (dPoW)
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.
The email spamers are using Internet infrastructure for advertizing buisnesses.
Nobody says that they want to break Internet down
and force users to use another ways to communicate.But email letters are spam for receptients.
And komodo transactions are spam from bitcoin user point of view.
all addresses spotted here are not spamming but used by komodo notary nodes
And what is the difference? 
Komodo is using the bitcoin blockchain to notarize KMD transactions (dPoW)
not spamming to try to chrash the BTC price or promote segwit or who knows what.
It's great to hunt spamming tx to figure out what is happening on BTC network, just saying you can ignore those addresses for your hunt
all addresses spotted here are not spamming but used by komodo notary nodes
And what is the difference? https://blockchain.info/address/17bgX68iQZW4RxeQTSw3AZBpboMKjYsscB?show_adv=true
Is not spam. It is a Komodo notary node BTC address.
Indeed, all addresses spotted here are not spamming but used by komodo notary nodes
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annkmddpow-komodo-an-open-composable-smart-chain-platform-secured-by-b-1605144
here is the full list:
1E2ac2gxeFR2ir1H3vqETTperWkiXkwy99
15R3C2ZKmak5pCc4duLY2jLtFD3o1jaeNd
1975tJqepTaVZKCLGNQWjHSp1wSCSuybke
19PfW28kMoM16uYGpvZcVZx3iGEUP3AHQk
19sk6EAGn2TNZsRoxKcp4vPe597cj1dmXj
19vteuqLwgLdq8UmGWAA7gYkL2aZRQgNK4
1TWDh4PrHLFujRYujyZBWs2NPJN1hVux4
19bNaMgEkqx4ns53MUrvCz8yZgHRXVouxi
1DZQLUB5nYngw52zUoA7AQ1aJ74UXr4nBF
1Ezn5qr7VxNu8ysBgViL3rX1uFxnNL4Fu
1GKzbQR4NMLXCCYFiFVFXE52gffjv8cLUs
15mC3hFa1gkcaKQFf3VJJ7KnjrekoozMro
1Jk7tz1aV4nSkqpurNzdgUTf5fety9g7JP
1Pby9MMZxWyJCh1mwTWu88R5b16RLwDhds
12BPPXrTBEdNDJip5LpAy8LuURE9MRGXiq
17bgX68iQZW4RxeQTSw3AZBpboMKjYsscB
1C8c66yipm2vwxJAZCKpi3BJKdV4EaCNGL
19yj1mUuA6nAoCRVvPY7Wo8MmBc9jPJBpo
1M7yrxRLefgjxPNXMtsRfQ2ExJT1aoYr8a
1F2YvHS6zJv4jTqFgMM4erUXcRXH8W798u
1HvDEybR7sX1w3VPcKKpSMGEmqN2kBGAp2
1M3hLovi5JckrEB1SbN5xXKzhqCRQLLtHa
1NHP5rvBbL879TgL9rW5vj23deXFcYhkGh
1J1SMGPzfobKReMvCYfaBf4tshzzeDc9Db
1CwzdV2srLLCnf87erExNA4oEURz2AxPY3
1GSd9b6Kzfh25uqZEfsC2rwN6mMUvwuLGi
16dD2ivfipYyg3s5MiVy9RJTissxnxde9x
1LQK29TNu3Xj471UbpKLjrKRYArwiS6EmB
19drsTcWBkygxk5DJAPeeQqCtGxpavDj66
1PKQ4ssN4hpJmpmkNYVSTxadNNbDLJ7v37
1JedibY1Aepb6CjtiKVMb6h8bhXzgiYSL2
1EXnwhS6xD2FHxKMUuuVYdYXnuq421xwUP
1B5ZUUjUXt4MkBUQNgqTzf5S52cMZPVNb
15GgmzJH9idwdQriM6SjZkWejWoHiobn5N
1GxR3ci8Q8UdrzU3PDEfMswpeQdNphKrrj
1PZSMG2qBKuQcemzeV8odYADD6xYhwMBcT
1EH8kxoWZa8wZ7aBRjTCHbQoXAqaKkEu3d
1HePRTS9UKZjSh2cfDnzfy44w6T6g4z8hS
1MghixZrbhncwLGWXiP3ZdeDKhzBaJQPKu
1FTHgjVKuQha7teucaQqtuCmjxXW1ohU1Y
18tFbBp4Vn7eBaPDkfms4WcQHDbpScAkuG
1cYgJk61B8XhNJmLgbxWQ8C1cTD9i62bC
13swCVuXeZhWkmwEXod83Mv2YWKVqYeMVS
1FUbfkGzm7fcrexDCkx2ATFghJY7u7nZf8
1G5kXhf4tN9ab42znVGcwVVkN96nQaQBR7
1qbDivYmT6RyNk5StnPaGyG1Z6YsDXcaR
1BkFfsYufY83DqBsd4sYGSGCWMhUEQmeNW
1LaTUQVT6jk2wv1w9CE27UZd2SZDrzJtx8
18RJoQdpxZuCMn9UgdhuDWYAtz4b3uHWSh
15FxFngAdULgovYV1jDy4AHSPsgKCdKWb5
169d1dD8HYf5SDHzVsxvK56jdGuRondtyA
1HmixPDLTcVSqiyne2JFLj1F1hKVmpC1pU
1L5ykndv7aiEB33ojjDqyTKjmVykiHtobH
1PigjQNtoDha3xRHivKfRSCfioNzYEukzM
178BewnLKcNCb7qvadgtHLJ5xkUgK9ifFY
1PzfSMCJXNggBpb5MZj4UqcTnDgvKheJqr
1BMLUBy8MMEmpvudWhHXgnv5VCNr5ZxF3n
13Yd4cceh8JsBukRuRx1H1kt7jbvcV2rYy
1N7WEwgnh5rFuznG5gy38ZkeeWacLFWZnF
1NxrVmbHuPfxzf4E5bCF4pU5kVDqjQsPMr
171ERtCXZha6huG6CneqqXBbNhng57Dnb6
15DeGazoMk8afbBKmm35DARWgLPgc4T4d2
These were just the small transactions with decreased fee. It all happens with user requirements. If they doesn't need a short time confirmation would go for these transactions. Few websites provide prioritize transactions with certain fee amount. This too might be a part of those addition.
bitcoin to increase block size so it would be even easier for them to ddos the network with huge cheap txs
I disagree. Because you making a wild guess.
I find these facts, kindly correct any of them that are wrong:
* In the past 7-8 years blocks were empty
* In the past 7-8 years txs were cheap even free
* Nobody ddos the network!
* They are spamming with 100,000 transactions (50 MB to 70 MB) http://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/memory-pool past 7 days
* What you said is only true if we increase the limit to something such as 10 MB or more
Right, I don't know for sure. What I know are facts, and they are - this is not the first and not second ddos attack; they been going on since bitcoin classic and the block size debate started. Every time there is a slight congestion, or a difficulty adjustment, network gets attacked. So your facts are incorrect, somebody is actively trying to prove their point or just harm bitcoin adoption. Even 2x block size increase will make such attacks much more dangerous and heavy for the verifying nodes, in effect block size increase could allow the attacker to kill the network nodes with specially crafted txs like these. But the layman would be requesting block size increase seeing so many transactions, and thats what the attacker is hoping for.
Good thing that bitcoin developers are smart and can continue securing the protocol under such an immense pressure.
bitcoin to increase block size so it would be even easier for them to ddos the network with huge cheap txs
I disagree. Because you making a wild guess.
I find these facts, kindly correct any of them that are wrong:
* In the past 7-8 years blocks were empty
* In the past 7-8 years txs were cheap even free
* Nobody ddos the network!
* They are spamming with 100,000 transactions (50 MB to 70 MB) http://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/memory-pool past 7 days
* What you said is only true if we increase the limit to something such as 10 MB or more
Bitcoin is still usable, just pay a higher fee. Increasing the block size will make it much more expensive to impact Bitcoin at this scale.
Today, free for send BTC highter than befor many
bitcoin to increase block size so it would be even easier for them to ddos the network with huge cheap txs
I disagree. Because you making a wild guess.
I find these facts, kindly correct any of them that are wrong:
* In the past 7-8 years blocks were empty
* In the past 7-8 years txs were cheap even free
* Nobody ddos the network!
* They are spamming with 100,000 transactions (50 MB to 70 MB) http://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/memory-pool past 7 days
* What you said is only true if we increase the limit to something such as 10 MB or more
It's the free market, people have the right to do anything if the follow the rule.
There is no rule to forbidden people do such things.
There is no rule to forbidden people do such things.
The beauty of decentralized system? NO? The current blockchain spam is very annoying, affecting people that has little to no technical knowledge on Bitcoin. Not all bitcoin users have the knowledge about the transaction fee adjustment, and this spam may give them trauma (first time experience in Bitcoin transaction and a result of days of waiting since they have no knowledge about tx fee competition) . This might be funny but it is true.
Nothing surprising, happens every time when there is a backlog. Somebody (who is currently pushing for large block sizes) tries to make the network unusable to force bitcoin to increase block size so it would be even easier for them to ddos the network with huge cheap txs and eventually kill bitcoin. But they will fail as they always had )
It's the free market, people have the right to do anything if the follow the rule.
There is no rule to forbidden people do such things.
There is no rule to forbidden people do such things.
Why do you think that I am responsible person for all bitcoin problems?
Lol, I don't blame you for all of Bitcoin's problems. I do know you well enough to know that you are a Bitcoin expert who likes to profit off of vulnerabilities -- I also know that you have your own unique way of making problems/flaws in various systems public. Quote
It looks like the fees used in some of the most recent (and unconfirmed) transactions are very low,
and will likely not confirm until the current backlog is essentially eliminated.
Such spam is the reason of current backlogand will likely not confirm until the current backlog is essentially eliminated.
It is reasonable to say that there are roughly 10 mb worth of transactions that pay a fee in excess of 40 sat/byte and in excess of 30 additional mb worth of transactions that pay in excess of 10 sat/byte (I do not have a breakdown in increments less than 10 sat/byte). source).
It will take more than 10 blocks to reduce the mempool so that miners are confirming 40 sat/byte transactions because new transactions are being broadcast, and users will reasonable pay market rates for tx fees, which are above 40 sat/byte, and any transaction above this rate will result in this backlog not declining.
I wonder when the asking of right questions start. questions such as how to fight these types of spam, not just this new method of big transactions spending multiple inputs but also the older ways of spamming regular looking transactions every 2 seconds transactions that spend 1 input and have 1 or 2 outputs.
Probably by adding a few restrictions on what people can do with the chain.Limiting their access to the network or verifying the outputs before the transactions are broadcasted.But that would take the 'open-ness' out of the bitcoin source and people would call it a more centralized thing. 
I wonder when the asking of right questions start. questions such as how to fight these types of spam, not just this new method of big transactions spending multiple inputs but also the older ways of spamming regular looking transactions every 2 seconds transactions that spend 1 input and have 1 or 2 outputs.
Why do you care about this spam?
I don't care. I only published it for others who may care.Quote
Spamming the network with such transactions is pointless.
Nothing is pointless.Quote
Somebody is wasting time and efforts for nothing.
Wrong Are these your addresses?
No. I do not waste my funds for nothing. If I would want to spam blockchain for any reasonI will not publish my transactions on forum.
Why do you think that I am responsible person for all bitcoin problems?
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It looks like the fees used in some of the most recent (and unconfirmed) transactions are very low,
and will likely not confirm until the current backlog is essentially eliminated.
Such spam is the reason of current backlog and will likely not confirm until the current backlog is essentially eliminated.
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