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legendary
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November 26, 2024, 06:07:25 PM
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Maybe something like Stellar, whose fees are ridiculously small?

Then too there are chains out there supposedly with no fees at all...

-MarkM-


I was looking at Solana. I was aware of Stellar when they launched but I've seen nothing about them lately; I see they have a higher market cap than Solana though. I'll look into it.

In your opinion, which would be the best altcoin/chain to build this on?


There are so many I have not attempted to keep up with them all; however I still generally imagine that built in tokens should be more efficient than having to go through all the rigamarole of "contracts" just to have a simple token, so if not Stellar I'd look for something else that implements tokens natively rather than needing to use a "contracts" layer just for such a basic functionality.

Stellar is extremely cheap to use and to issue tokens, albeit how you issue them can be a bit un-intuitive since anyone can basically cause your account to have the ability to issue any arbitrarily-labelled token without even telling you about it!

Essentially if anyone anywhere has their account "trust" yours for some number of some arbitrary label then possibly unbeknownst to you your account can then send them up to that many of such a label, but nothing messages you telling you your account has gained that ability.

So the way I usually issue tokens on Stellar is to have an issued-to account "trust" an issuing account for some number of something, choosing that number as my record of how many I issued since the issuing account doesn't even bother to show you how many it issued of things it hasn't got any of and in fact need never have had any of. So looking at size of "trust line" in my "issued-to" account is how I keep track of how many I believe I issued, and I ask users who want to return tokens to please return them to the issued-to account rather than to the issuing account since sending tokens back to issuer basically un-issues them, since they are afterall intended as "IOUs".

It does mean though the only cost of issuing them is the fee for sending them to issued-to account, which itself needs a trust line which ties up some small amount of XLM until you cancel the trust line.


-MarkM-

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Maybe something like Stellar, whose fees are ridiculously small?

Then too there are chains out there supposedly with no fees at all...

-MarkM-

I was looking at Solana. I was aware of Stellar when they launched but I've seen nothing about them lately; I see they have a higher market cap than Solana though. I'll look into it.

In your opinion, which would be the best altcoin/chain to build this on?
legendary
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Maybe something like Stellar, whose fees are ridiculously small?

Then too there are chains out there supposedly with no fees at all...

-MarkM-
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I abandoned this project again in June when I realized just how high I would have to set minimum withdrawal amounts for Bitcoin.

What do you think about withdrawals/deposits in tokens or on a layer 2 chain (i.e. Polygon)?
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I have yet to reread all of the previous posts, but if your main concern is with the micro-transaction part [specifically referring to withdrawals], then you can always utilize scheduled batch payments [e.g. twice a day] for Bitcoin withdrawals.

I have, of course, considered this. Most likely at launch we would be doing daily - at most - withdrawals, for anything below a set amount (probably <$50) for free and anything over that limit optionally instantly but with gas fees deducted. If it takes off, we will make this more frequent (every other hour?) with a percentage/set fee on a whichever-is-higher basis.

If you are dealing with micro transactions, bitcoin is not a good idea unless you hold onto their balance until they have a minimum.  

There will be a minimum to withdraw, as the game will likely include some way of generating or making a balance without depositing anything in the first place. Something to reward progression, funded by other fees or in some other way.



I've reopened my old source code and am downloading a LAMP instance + the latest papermc to test what I had going previously. I remember working on this while in camp during downtime and in the evenings when I had nothing to do. Looking forward to restarting this project.
Vod
legendary
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Edit: One more question... is Bitcoin still the best cryptocurrency, in your opinion, to use for such a project, or would an altcoin like Ethereum serve the purpose better? (Or a token?)
I have yet to reread all of the previous posts, but if your main concern is with the micro-transaction part [specifically referring to withdrawals], then you can always utilize scheduled batch payments [e.g. twice a day] for Bitcoin withdrawals.

If you are dealing with micro transactions, bitcoin is not a good idea unless you hold onto their balance until they have a minimum. 
legendary
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Edit: One more question... is Bitcoin still the best cryptocurrency, in your opinion, to use for such a project, or would an altcoin like Ethereum serve the purpose better? (Or a token?)
I have yet to reread all of the previous posts, but if your main concern is with the micro-transaction part [specifically referring to withdrawals], then you can always utilize scheduled batch payments [e.g. twice a day] for Bitcoin withdrawals.
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It has been nearly three years since this project's original conception. At the time of original posting, I was serving mandatory military service in Singapore. I've since moved on to university studies, and it's now summer break for me.

I am considering reopening the development on this project and would just like to gauge interest. Is this something you (the reader, personally) think would still be a successful project? What direction would you see this take? Any advice you can give?

Edit: One more question... is Bitcoin still the best cryptocurrency, in your opinion, to use for such a project, or would an altcoin like Ethereum serve the purpose better? (Or a token?)
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Yes, I will be accepting testers. We'll run on the Bitcoin testnet for awhile.

I am super excited to see this project develop! Will you be accepting regular people as testers or only tech-savy people that are fimilar with the testnet and/or minecraft in general. As someone that hasn't played the game in a few years and that has never used the bitcoin testnet, I would still be interested in testing!

I believe I'll go for an open Alpha with bug bounties :-)

Also might be looking for donations, but won't start accepting any until at least a working prototype is out.

Plan to run regular contests for helping the server (community-voted most helpful member, most wiki contributions, most bug reports, etc) once the server is launched, plus an opening day tokens giveaway.
legendary
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Yes, I will be accepting testers. We'll run on the Bitcoin testnet for awhile.

I am super excited to see this project develop! Will you be accepting regular people as testers or only tech-savy people that are fimilar with the testnet and/or minecraft in general. As someone that hasn't played the game in a few years and that has never used the bitcoin testnet, I would still be interested in testing!
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Are you accepting people to come test the server? I would be interested in alpha testing it and offering better suggestions on the server. I see that you have miners up and running is this using one of the plugins that exist on spigot or have you custom coded them? They look similar to the ones that exist on spigot. If you are custom coding everything why do you not use the ones that exist already? It would speed development time up and you could launch the server quicker.

Answers to your questions, in order:

Yes, I will be accepting testers. We'll run on the Bitcoin testnet for awhile.

Everything is custom coded. If you read the summary of what these miners do, you'd know there's no existing plugin/system that integrates them the way we plan to. Or is this information not readily available enough? That might be my fault.

I will begin populating the wiki with detailed information for interested parties such as yourself: https://wiki.blocksofcrypto.io
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Just wanted to give a quick update over here, I've set up a Minecraft server and updated the forums with generic information as a future touchpoint instead of BitcoinTalk.org.

https://blocksofcrypto.io
sr. member
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Are you accepting people to come test the server? I would be interested in alpha testing it and offering better suggestions on the server. I see that you have miners up and running is this using one of the plugins that exist on spigot or have you custom coded them? They look similar to the ones that exist on spigot. If you are custom coding everything why do you not use the ones that exist already? It would speed development time up and you could launch the server quicker.
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This project sounds extremely interesting and I might be interested in playing some minecraft again!
Asking as someone that hasn't played the game for like 8 years or so: Will we require the premium/payed version of the game ?

Yes.
legendary
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This project sounds extremely interesting and I might be interested in playing some minecraft again!
Asking as someone that hasn't played the game for like 8 years or so: Will we require the premium/payed version of the game ?
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That is some fast coding. I think that allowing members to contribute to the wiki when the server is released publicly will help with keeping it up to date. You could still be the admin that approves of edits but writing a whole server worth of information and changing that every time something is changed in your plugins sounds like it will take away and slow down the development of the server.

I code in spurts whenever I feel like it, so yeah. A lot of the lines, of course, are very short. It's not like every line has the text of a paragraph. It could just be, for example, a "{".

Perhaps once the project is complete, I'll look into this community-driven wiki idea.
sr. member
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That is some fast coding. I think that allowing members to contribute to the wiki when the server is released publicly will help with keeping it up to date. You could still be the admin that approves of edits but writing a whole server worth of information and changing that every time something is changed in your plugins sounds like it will take away and slow down the development of the server.
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Just calculated, altogether the project is now almost 8000 lines of code (excluding libraries).
All custom coded? How big is your team? If the plugins are custom coded then people will not be contributing to the wiki because they do not know how the plugins work. I think a wiki will be a ongoing project when you have released the server to the public.

Yes, 8000 lines was only including my own code. I'm a one-man team.

The wiki content will be written by me and me only.
sr. member
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Just calculated, altogether the project is now almost 8000 lines of code (excluding libraries).
All custom coded? How big is your team? If the plugins are custom coded then people will not be contributing to the wiki because they do not know how the plugins work. I think a wiki will be a ongoing project when you have released the server to the public.
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Logo created.

Wiki also up: https://blocksofcrypto.io/wiki
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