Topic: Blockstream/Core: Support of DDOS Attacks on Classic - page 2. (Read 2495 times)

There were attacks on XT nodes, there will be attacks on Classic nodes. But OP is suggesting that Core is organizing them.

I have one simple request of you. Show rock solid, indisputable proof to back up your claims that Core is backed by big banks, that there is a massive conspiracy to attack Classic nodes by core (this does not include the comments of a single person), and that there really is a surge in Classic nodes and its popularity. Your behavior is definitely not the behavior of someone on the winning side. Because thus far, all you have done is filled threads you've made against Core with projection, ad-hominem attacks, lies, personal incredulity fallacies and strawman attacks against everybody who doesn't support Classic. So show me proof of your claims, and I might just support Classic.
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My God what sissy's you sound like.  You mud slinging, wild accusation throwing nuts finally meet someone who punches back, and you start whining like school girls.  Actually girls today would kick your worthless butts.

Lets Be Clear..... it is called Karma.  If you want to fight and play at the bigboy table, learn to take a punch without so much crying.  Better get used to the fact that it isn't a one sided fight anymore.  You bold loudmouthed bullies have been abusing your authority over Bitcoin, and now you are getting ready to lose that control, and suddenly you start sounding all reasonable.  Give me a break.

What is a lie? that people have been supporting the idea of DDOS?

OP, do you have a link?  What are we talking about ?

The vitriol on both sides has been escalating; There isn't a gif on Earth to do it justice.

Maybe I should go on a schizophrenic campaign like OP to increase my activity, it sure make me a member pretty quick  

You'll have to ignore OP. His mind ain't right. 

I have one simple request of you. Show rock solid, indisputable proof to back up your claims that Core is backed by big banks, that there is a massive conspiracy to attack Classic nodes by core (this does not include the comments of a single person), and that there really is a surge in Classic nodes and its popularity. Your behavior is definitely not the behavior of someone on the winning side. Because thus far, all you have done is filled threads you've made against Core with projection, ad-hominem attacks, lies, personal incredulity fallacies and strawman attacks against everybody who doesn't support Classic. So show me proof of your claims, and I might just support Classic.

I would like to say Keep calm!
There is no war in the bitcoin community and all we seek for a solution. We are in the same side. The people that was in the other side they have left already bitcoin community.

I tried Xapo, and they pissed me off.  I went through all this work to get an account, and then in tiny fine print somewhere I get notified that I can't actually get their debit card because it isn't offered in USA.  And I've used Coinbase & Circle, and I don't totally trust them either.  JP Morgan Chase holds my Mortgage - I really don't want to get into all the trickery involved there.  My local bank is a big regional - BB&T.  Overall OK, but if I am late on a personal line of credit payment they wouldn't hesitate to go evil on me.  And then there is Bob down the street.  He borrowed my RotoTiller and fucked it up.  My brother-n-law borrowed some money from me a while back, and I guess I have seen the last of that.

My point is this.... All of these institutions and individuals have proven to be untrustworthy to me at some point.  And I am quite sure I have probably screwed some people in my lifetime as well.

And soon, every entity, including you and I will be able to own and operate in Bitcoin.  And some of us will do honorably, and some will Suck.  But the market forces will work it out.  Kind of like Bob.  No way does that asshole get to borrow my shit anymore!

But it is a big world, and the more open and widely used Bitcoin is.... the more choices I have to either interact with, or not interact with.  Blockstream/Core wants to limit my choices severely, and I don't like that.

I see crappo xapo on the list of supported.. ya know them corporation mother fkrs.

Alley, I'd say just keep an eye on the front page of the www.BitcoinClassic.com website.  When that front page "download link" goes hot - then its Game On Baby! 

I'm told maybe 2 weeks?  +/-  Working out tweeks doing due diligence. 

My Man G!  It IS sad isn't it.  Blockstream/Core has absolutely no shame it seems  

But I'm preaching to the choir with you I guess.  You obviously know all this.  Guess that's why you got out Huh?  Hows the vacation treating you?  You musta needed a break after dealing with those nuts!

Good Luck G!  

https://twitter.com/realmicroguy/status/688871162848366596

When you're telling outrageous lies like this, you might also want to make up some fake evidence to support them-- no one would would believe the unsubstantiated tripe would bother to fact check, and a few people who wouldn't would also not bother to fact check.  Just a tip.  Cheers!

When can you download and run classic?

This^
I would hate to see the big corruptions get leverage in bitcoin

Good one! 

Guess it depends on who is clocked in 

Wow. Is this still you? This post actually looks and sounds sane.

I almost don't recognize it without the caps/bold/large font,etc...

OK... Admittedly occassionally guilty.  I DO think that XT was an idiotic and uncontrolled mess, and I do think that the only group that would have stood to gain the most off of it were the huge banks.  All this talk of stuffing the blocks with Ledger info etc...  But I am NOT necessarily against that.... I am just against extremes.  Mike represented the extreme to me.  Blockstream/Core represents the opposite extreme.   Interestingly, I see BOTH of those paths as leading to Centralization and Loss of Privacy.  Hearns path I saw giving it to the existing Fiat (even if unintentionally).  Blockstream/Core I see giving it to a "New Breed of Fiat" - the tech giants.  I can see Google, Apple, Facebook and handful of other companies running everything through App based Private Chains - and slowly but surely squeezing out the smaller chains.

I like Classic because it allows a slow, methodical growth curve.  I just feel like allowing everyone to fight it out equally and fairly will result in a better long term system of checks and balances.  Do I still think Fiat Banks or Fiat Fintech will abuse.  Yes.  It will always be there.

But my biggest beef is that Mike is associated with Classic at all by name/reputation in this current scenario.   I think he is a genius, blah blah blah, but I DO think he is a bit biased towards the wishes of his current paycheck providers, just like Blockstream/Core is with their paymasters/funders.

And yes, I think Mike went a bit unnecessarily whiny at the end, and my guess is that once he's cooled off he may (at least privately) be embarrassed by his behavior.  I actually WISH he'd just quietly backed Classic and been done with it.

But honestly he is irrelevant to Bitcoin at present in my opinion.  Deesn't mean he (or members of Blockstream/Core) can't/won't be enormous contributors down the road..... but damnit we need to get this Fork underway and done.