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Topic: Blockstream/Core: Support of DDOS Attacks on Classic - page 3. (Read 2495 times)

legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
WHO CARES PEOPLE.

I care. I care what the governance team of Bitcoin is.  I care about who is standing behind it.  

With Blockstream/Core I see Big Name Tech Insiders.  I see dirty tricks, bad morals, untrustworthiness, scattered mini-centralization in chains, and total loss of privacy.

With Classic I see Big Name Tech Insiders, Small Banks, Large Banks, Independent Companies, and Mainstream Users in General.  I see sound decision making, unselfish and flexible paths, widespread de-centralization, and increased individual privacy protections.

So yes, I care, and I think it is important for everyone to see the facts of what is going on beyond the smoke and mirrors lying FUD illusion that Blockstream/Core is trying to paint.


You bring up a good point... there are many banks and all competing with each other.

But some people here seem to have listened to one too many Alex Jones shows
(nothing against AJ, he's great)...and somehow think that the illuminati or
the bilderbergs or the bohemian club or whatever is in complete control
of all the "banksters" and the banks as a collective are conspiring to
take over bitcoin by pushing for bigger blocks so that it
becomes more 'centralized'... its the most ridiculous idea.

But yes, people are really saying stuff like "Hearn is a Bankster Shill"
... so deluded.

If the elite/deepstate/powers-that-be really do have as
much power as some people think, and if they were really
out to stop bitcion, there would be much
more effective things they would be doing.



full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 101
WHO CARES PEOPLE.

I care. I care what the governance team of Bitcoin is.  I care about who is standing behind it.  

With Blockstream/Core I see Big Name Tech Insiders.  I see dirty tricks, bad morals, untrustworthiness, scattered mini-centralization in chains, and total loss of privacy.

With Classic I see Big Name Tech Insiders, Small Banks, Large Banks, Independent Companies, and Mainstream Users in General.  I see sound decision making, unselfish and flexible paths, widespread de-centralization, and increased individual privacy protections.

So yes, I care, and I think it is important for everyone to see the facts of what is going on beyond the smoke and mirrors lying FUD illusion that Blockstream/Core is trying to paint.
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And who are the people behind Blockstream?

Reid Hoffman / Co-Founder of LinkedIn
Vinod Khosla / Founder of Sun Microsystems
Eric Schmidt / Google
Jerry Yang / Yahoo Founder

also.. Nicolas Berggruen, Crypto Currency Partners, Future\Perfect Ventures, Danny Hillis, Max Levchin, Mosaic Ventures, Ray Ozzie, Ribbit Capital... and others.
 

There are big corporate interests behind both Blockstream and some of the companies that support Classic.

WHO CARES PEOPLE.

I'm sick of these forum idiots and conspiracy theories that
think there's some grand plan to "infiltrate Bitcoin by the banksters" etc...

Yes conspiracies are sometimes real but not everything
is a conspiracy.  

The world is usually much simpler than that.  Everyone is out for
themselves to make a buck.  That's how business works.  
In fact, pretty much everyone in the world is concerned
with their own agenda.  

Blockstream is NO DIFFERENT in that regard.  They
want to "scale" Bitcoin THEIR WAY that suits their
interests.  

I really don't understand why some people can't
get that through their head.








 
In Africa, when a flock of ostriches sees a pride of lions coming to eat them, they just stick their heads down in the sand and POOF!
The lions just magically disappear.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1008
Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political


And who are the people behind Blockstream?

Reid Hoffman / Co-Founder of LinkedIn
Vinod Khosla / Founder of Sun Microsystems
Eric Schmidt / Google
Jerry Yang / Yahoo Founder

also.. Nicolas Berggruen, Crypto Currency Partners, Future\Perfect Ventures, Danny Hillis, Max Levchin, Mosaic Ventures, Ray Ozzie, Ribbit Capital... and others.
 

There are big corporate interests behind both Blockstream and some of the companies that support Classic.

WHO CARES PEOPLE.

I'm sick of these forum idiots and conspiracy theories that
think there's some grand plan to "infiltrate Bitcoin by the banksters" etc...

Yes conspiracies are sometimes real but not everything
is a conspiracy.  

The world is usually much simpler than that.  Everyone is out for
themselves to make a buck.  That's how business works.  
In fact, pretty much everyone in the world is concerned
with their own agenda.  

Blockstream is NO DIFFERENT in that regard.  They
want to "scale" Bitcoin THEIR WAY that suits their
interests.  

I really don't understand why some people can't
get that through their head.








 
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Activity: 140
Merit: 101
Classic threads belong in the Altcoin section: >>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0
I forgot to add one....

They Resort to.......

DDOS Attacks!  FUD!  Lying!  Threatening!  Intimidation! AND CENSORSHIP!

JUST TO BE CLEAR...... THIS is what Blockstream/Core is all about.


ALSO TO BE CLEAR.... this is a discussion about the Current Governance of the Current Bitcoin-Core.
legendary
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Twitter @realmicroguy
Classic threads belong in the Altcoin section: >>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0
full member
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So sad.  It is clear that Classic is going to prevail, and all Blockstream/Core Supporters can resort to is illegal actions.

I think so many people had hoped that Blockstream/Core would professionally and responsibly accept that the overwhelming majority of the Bitcoin Community simply disagrees with their roadmap, and they would sigh deeply, but graciously accept defeat and join the greater effort to improve and strengthen Bitcoin.....  continuing to work on Sidechain/Lightening.

But Blockstream/Core Supporters have chosen a scorched earth policy.  Burn everything Bitcoin if they can't have it.  This is how everyone associated with Blocksteam/Core will be remembered.  Including all the investors, who will soon start being listed.  

And who are the people behind Blockstream?

Reid Hoffman / Co-Founder of LinkedIn
Vinod Khosla / Founder of Sun Microsystems
Eric Schmidt / Google
Jerry Yang / Yahoo Founder

also.. Nicolas Berggruen, Crypto Currency Partners, Future\Perfect Ventures, Danny Hillis, Max Levchin, Mosaic Ventures, Ray Ozzie, Ribbit Capital... and others.

These are some of the biggest investors.  So here is my question....

What do these individuals / investor groups think of how this is being handled?  Are they happy that Blockstream/Core Governance team doesn't seem to be able to play well with the rest of the community, and is slowly destroying their reputation at the Bitcoin Table?  Are they happy with the lack of professionalism being shown?

I mean.... Bitcoin could be argued to be the biggest thing since the Internet itself.  I wonder if these investment entities are happy with the way their investment is being handled.  I wonder if they approve of the way decisions are being made, and of this incredibly toxic war that is being waged by those associated with their investment?

Or are they actually THE puppet masters pulling the strings?

Regardless, I cannot imagine that these reputations will escape unsmeared as well - once the Blockstream/Core rebellion has been crushed.  Plenty of distaste and ridicule and boycotting to go around I suppose.

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You need to add (After classic gets Ddosed back to the stone age people will rejoice........ )

and....

If DDoSing nodes is te only way to prevent Bitcoin Classic is to do this............wouldn't be something bad.

So sad.  It is clear that Classic is going to prevail, and all Blockstream/Core Supporters can resort to is illegal actions.

I think so many people had hoped that Blockstream/Core would professionally and responsibly accept that the overwhelming majority of the Bitcoin Community simply disagrees with their roadmap, and they would sigh deeply, but graciously accept defeat and join the greater effort to improve and strengthen Bitcoin.....  continuing to work on Sidechain/Lightening.

But Blockstream/Core Supporters have chosen a scorched earth policy.  Burn everything Bitcoin if they can't have it.  This is how everyone associated with Blocksteam/Core will be remembered.  Including all the investors, who will soon start being listed. 
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I've seen several posts where Blockstream/Core supporters seem to be encouraging DDOS attacks on Classic Nodes.  I do not think it will work for a simple reason... because I see support for Classic growing very fast.  Who you going to attack when there will be So Many Classic Nodes popping up!  

But this is a REMINDER TO ALL...... be prepared to launch Classic Hard & Fast!  This is going to be a battle, albeit a short one.  A Clear Message needs to be sent that Bitcoin Classic IS Bitcoin.  That the Bitcoin Community is in Concensus.  Its going to be ALL HANDS ON DECK when that Bitcoin Classic Download button goes active.  Everybody upgrade.

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And I want to make perfectly clear how the Supporters of Blockstream/Core are acting as they publically admit support of DDOSing Classic Nodes.

They are admitting they will do anything it takes to get their way..... EXCEPT THAT THEY WILL.......

1) NOT Vote in a Fair Concensus Fashion.  
2) NOT Submit BIPs for fair consideration to the broader Bitcoin Community .  
3) NOT Dialogue (in non-censored fashion) with other Developers in an attempt to get the best bitcoin possible.  

They Resort to.......

DDOS Attacks!  FUD!  Lying!  Threatening!  Intimidation!

JUST TO BE CLEAR...... THIS is what Blockstream/Core is all about.


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