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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on January 05, 2015, 11:20:20 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 05, 2015, 09:50:04 PM

Is it possible to have the wallet.dat and yet have no access to the coins? Why haven't they been tumbled yet?

What is the rush? Transactions are irreversible. In prior hacks attackers have waited days or even weeks before they starting obfuscating the trail.

Quote from: thefunkybits on January 05, 2015, 11:08:26 PM

Why wouldn't Bitstamp just move the coins to a secure wallet themselves if they have the private keys/wallet.dat along with the hacker

Huh

The assumption is the address containing the stolen coins is not controlled by BitStamp but is instead under the control of the hacker.

What do you mean assumption? I thought it was news

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 05, 2015, 09:50:04 PM

Is it possible to have the wallet.dat and yet have no access to the coins? Why haven't they been tumbled yet?

What is the rush? Transactions are irreversible. In prior hacks attackers have waited days or even weeks before they starting obfuscating the trail.

Quote from: thefunkybits on January 05, 2015, 11:08:26 PM

Why wouldn't Bitstamp just move the coins to a secure wallet themselves if they have the private keys/wallet.dat along with the hacker

Huh

The assumption is the address containing the stolen coins is not controlled by BitStamp but is instead under the control of the hacker.

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Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 09:52:36 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 05, 2015, 09:50:04 PM

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 08:32:04 PM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 05, 2015, 08:30:07 PM

Quote from: GGGGG on January 05, 2015, 06:17:52 PM

Guys, am I the only one thinking this event and the latest price fall are all subtly linked together? We've been there before. IMO, Bitstamp team has something to do with this "hack" thing.

Wouldn't it make more sense that the hacker started to dump coins? He maybe just wanted to get rid of them and fill his pockets...

Apparently all the stolen coins are still in this address.

https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

It's had no withdrawals from it yet.

Is it possible to have the wallet.dat and yet have no access to the coins? Why haven't they been tumbled yet?

It beats me. Maybe the hacker is too worried about getting busted to move the coins.

Why wouldn't Bitstamp just move the coins to a secure wallet themselves if they have the private keys/wallet.dat along with the hacker

Huh

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 05, 2015, 09:56:24 PM

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 09:52:36 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 05, 2015, 09:50:04 PM

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 08:32:04 PM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 05, 2015, 08:30:07 PM

Quote from: GGGGG on January 05, 2015, 06:17:52 PM

Guys, am I the only one thinking this event and the latest price fall are all subtly linked together? We've been there before. IMO, Bitstamp team has something to do with this "hack" thing.

Wouldn't it make more sense that the hacker started to dump coins? He maybe just wanted to get rid of them and fill his pockets...

Apparently all the stolen coins are still in this address.

https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

It's had no withdrawals from it yet.

Is it possible to have the wallet.dat and yet have no access to the coins? Why haven't they been tumbled yet?

It beats me. Maybe the hacker is too worried about getting busted to move the coins.

We should send a bitmessage to the hacker and ask him

Nah, he's too drunk from the good damn piece of stamped cheddar. LOL

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Lol and a huge dump have happened it seems the hacked btc was turned into fiat.

so whats next after Bitstamp..

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Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 09:52:36 PM

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 05, 2015, 09:50:04 PM

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 08:32:04 PM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 05, 2015, 08:30:07 PM

Quote from: GGGGG on January 05, 2015, 06:17:52 PM

Guys, am I the only one thinking this event and the latest price fall are all subtly linked together? We've been there before. IMO, Bitstamp team has something to do with this "hack" thing.

Wouldn't it make more sense that the hacker started to dump coins? He maybe just wanted to get rid of them and fill his pockets...

Apparently all the stolen coins are still in this address.

https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

It's had no withdrawals from it yet.

Is it possible to have the wallet.dat and yet have no access to the coins? Why haven't they been tumbled yet?

It beats me. Maybe the hacker is too worried about getting busted to move the coins.

We should send a bitmessage to the hacker and ask him

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on January 05, 2015, 09:50:04 PM

Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 08:32:04 PM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 05, 2015, 08:30:07 PM

Quote from: GGGGG on January 05, 2015, 06:17:52 PM

Guys, am I the only one thinking this event and the latest price fall are all subtly linked together? We've been there before. IMO, Bitstamp team has something to do with this "hack" thing.

Wouldn't it make more sense that the hacker started to dump coins? He maybe just wanted to get rid of them and fill his pockets...

Apparently all the stolen coins are still in this address.

https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

It's had no withdrawals from it yet.

Is it possible to have the wallet.dat and yet have no access to the coins? Why haven't they been tumbled yet?

It beats me. Maybe the hacker is too worried about getting busted to move the coins.

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Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 08:32:04 PM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 05, 2015, 08:30:07 PM

Quote from: GGGGG on January 05, 2015, 06:17:52 PM

Guys, am I the only one thinking this event and the latest price fall are all subtly linked together? We've been there before. IMO, Bitstamp team has something to do with this "hack" thing.

Wouldn't it make more sense that the hacker started to dump coins? He maybe just wanted to get rid of them and fill his pockets...

Apparently all the stolen coins are still in this address.

https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

It's had no withdrawals from it yet.

Is it possible to have the wallet.dat and yet have no access to the coins? Why haven't they been tumbled yet?

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Quote from: GGGGG on January 05, 2015, 06:17:52 PM

Guys, am I the only one thinking this event and the latest price fall are all subtly linked together? We've been there before. IMO, Bitstamp team has something to do with this "hack" thing.

yeah i justn sold all my bitcoins cuz of this.... lol.

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Damn, it's a shame the instant I hear anything about hacking I think solvency issues...

Since these coins were primarily in their hot wallet, I wonder if this hack could be in part to mitigate some of the resulting loses from decreased buying pressure over the last few months (it's been a slow bleed)? Purely speculative:

"Lose" a large swath of coins from hot-wallet, buy previously inflated coins back at now lower price (recovering fiat losses). This supports the price and potentially mitigates their solvency problem because they are locked down in the short-term until they "figure it out."

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Quote from: waterpile on January 05, 2015, 08:34:24 PM

Im wondering why does businesses that deal with btc end up getting hacked.

Almost all of the reasons are "We've been hacked".

Yeah, always the same. They're all hacked.

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Quote from: celebreze32 on January 05, 2015, 08:32:04 PM

Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 05, 2015, 08:30:07 PM

Quote from: GGGGG on January 05, 2015, 06:17:52 PM

Guys, am I the only one thinking this event and the latest price fall are all subtly linked together? We've been there before. IMO, Bitstamp team has something to do with this "hack" thing.

Wouldn't it make more sense that the hacker started to dump coins? He maybe just wanted to get rid of them and fill his pockets...

Apparently all the stolen coins are still in this address.

https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

It's had no withdrawals from it yet.

Well, there crumbles my theory :-)

The US-govt surely soon will tell us that it was North Korea... :-9

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Quote from: waterpile on January 05, 2015, 08:34:24 PM

Im wondering why does businesses that deal with btc end up getting hacked.

Almost all of the reasons are "We've been hacked".

There are 3 reasons to hack someone:
Money
Information
Notoriety (to say they can/did)

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This "hack" is probably just like the Sony "hack". Blame it on someone else. Whereas in reality it was an inside job.

waterpile

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Im wondering why does businesses that deal with btc end up getting hacked.

Almost all of the reasons are "We've been hacked".

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 05, 2015, 08:30:07 PM

Quote from: GGGGG on January 05, 2015, 06:17:52 PM

Guys, am I the only one thinking this event and the latest price fall are all subtly linked together? We've been there before. IMO, Bitstamp team has something to do with this "hack" thing.

Wouldn't it make more sense that the hacker started to dump coins? He maybe just wanted to get rid of them and fill his pockets...

Apparently all the stolen coins are still in this address.

https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf

It's had no withdrawals from it yet.

RealMalatesta

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Quote from: GGGGG on January 05, 2015, 06:17:52 PM

Guys, am I the only one thinking this event and the latest price fall are all subtly linked together? We've been there before. IMO, Bitstamp team has something to do with this "hack" thing.

Wouldn't it make more sense that the hacker started to dump coins? He maybe just wanted to get rid of them and fill his pockets...

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Quote from: orpington on January 05, 2015, 08:09:46 PM

When large amounts of Bitcoin are missing/stolen it just adds to the "Bitcoin mystique". More mystique leads to more long-term value.

I wish I had 19000 Bitcoins... Shocked

The mere fact that people are willing to steal Bitcoins gives it value.

No one would be stealing dog turds from their neighbor's yard unless they were worth something.

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When large amounts of Bitcoin are missing/stolen it just adds to the "Bitcoin mystique". More mystique leads to more long-term value.

I wish I had 19000 Bitcoins... Shocked

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