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Topic: Boris Johnson must give up his US citizenship now (Read 1091 times)

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For people watching British politics right now - just remember that Game of Thrones was modeled on Britain during the War of the Roses, which is a lovely name for a pretty vicious period in our history. 530 years have passed but we're still the same people we always were!  Grin
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Crazy that he does not want to lead UK through the changes he pushed for so hard....wonder who will Cameron's place now
legendary
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Can't see Boris becoming PM. If he did he would have to press the button on article 50 triggering brexit. Who the hell would want that job?

Yep, I was right....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36672591
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When Cameron leaves, Boris Johnson will probably succeed him but there's a problem. The man has 2 passports. One from the UK and another from the US. I can't imagine someone being head of government while carrying a foreign passport and paying tax to another country.

I've always dreamed of getting another passport, but when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country.


Go explains that to all those evil Jews in the French Assemblée Nationale, who got an Israel passport Roll Eyes...

So, that's allowed in France? I'm surprised with the lack of national requirements in some European countries. Maybe Europe's been in peace for too long. In Africa or Eastern Europe, it's impossible to enter politics if you aren't 100% native.

But is that a problem? If the person has lived in the country a long time, is a good citizen, contributes positively to society, etc, why is a political career not ok just because the person isn't 100% native or has double nationality?

Explain that to Egyptians. In Egypt, if you parents aren't Egyptians, you cannot run for any political office. People would just look at you as someone unreliable. In Burma, it's also illegal for politicians to marry a foreigner.


Ok. Different countries different ideas. But what I meant was to ask you directly. "when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country", "I'm surprised with the lack of national requirements in some European countries. Maybe Europe's been in peace for too long." Reading what you posted I got the idea you don't believe a person's contribution to that society is enough. Why not? Especially in some cases where that person must be voted in by the people they represent and not just selected or something.


I wish BoJo would answer that simple question: why does he agrees to pay tax to the US? If he's a British citizen fully committed to his country, he doesn't have to. I guess he's doing that so that he has an escape road just in case something gets nasty for him. I believe politicians should not have any kind of way to escape.
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When Cameron leaves, Boris Johnson will probably succeed him but there's a problem. The man has 2 passports. One from the UK and another from the US. I can't imagine someone being head of government while carrying a foreign passport and paying tax to another country.

I've always dreamed of getting another passport, but when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country.

we are loyal to the country that we live in what the benefits of loyalty. IMO, if we have two passports we have to choose which is more favorable from the ownership of passport so i think we not must choose the country we are born.
legendary
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Someone has to do it, Not that anyone wants to.

Must they? The longer they go on without doing it the easier it is to ignore the result. This goes on for a month and everyone will get used to the idea the uk isn't leaving after all.


When Cameron leaves, Boris Johnson will probably succeed him but there's a problem. The man has 2 passports. One from the UK and another from the US. I can't imagine someone being head of government while carrying a foreign passport and paying tax to another country.

I've always dreamed of getting another passport, but when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country.


Go explains that to all those evil Jews in the French Assemblée Nationale, who got an Israel passport Roll Eyes...

So, that's allowed in France? I'm surprised with the lack of national requirements in some European countries. Maybe Europe's been in peace for too long. In Africa or Eastern Europe, it's impossible to enter politics if you aren't 100% native.

But is that a problem? If the person has lived in the country a long time, is a good citizen, contributes positively to society, etc, why is a political career not ok just because the person isn't 100% native or has double nationality?

Explain that to Egyptians. In Egypt, if you parents aren't Egyptians, you cannot run for any political office. People would just look at you as someone unreliable. In Burma, it's also illegal for politicians to marry a foreigner.


Ok. Different countries different ideas. But what I meant was to ask you directly. "when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country", "I'm surprised with the lack of national requirements in some European countries. Maybe Europe's been in peace for too long." Reading what you posted I got the idea you don't believe a person's contribution to that society is enough. Why not? Especially in some cases where that person must be voted in by the people they represent and not just selected or something.
legendary
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When Cameron leaves, Boris Johnson will probably succeed him but there's a problem. The man has 2 passports. One from the UK and another from the US. I can't imagine someone being head of government while carrying a foreign passport and paying tax to another country.

I've always dreamed of getting another passport, but when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country.


Go explains that to all those evil Jews in the French Assemblée Nationale, who got an Israel passport Roll Eyes...

So, that's allowed in France? I'm surprised with the lack of national requirements in some European countries. Maybe Europe's been in peace for too long. In Africa or Eastern Europe, it's impossible to enter politics if you aren't 100% native.

But is that a problem? If the person has lived in the country a long time, is a good citizen, contributes positively to society, etc, why is a political career not ok just because the person isn't 100% native or has double nationality?

Explain that to Egyptians. In Egypt, if you parents aren't Egyptians, you cannot run for any political office. People would just look at you as someone unreliable. In Burma, it's also illegal for politicians to marry a foreigner.
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Can't see Boris becoming PM. If he did he would have to press the button on article 50 triggering brexit. Who the hell would want that job?


Someone has to do it, Not that anyone wants to. I dont know who else would be able to walk straight into the job. Would they need to be voted in or would it just be someone next in line? Ive always just assumed if cameron stepped down it johnson would take over. Maybe Michael Gove? Hopefully not theresa may or we are all fucked.
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Can't see Boris becoming PM. If he did he would have to press the button on article 50 triggering brexit. Who the hell would want that job?
legendary
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When Cameron leaves, Boris Johnson will probably succeed him but there's a problem. The man has 2 passports. One from the UK and another from the US. I can't imagine someone being head of government while carrying a foreign passport and paying tax to another country.

I've always dreamed of getting another passport, but when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country.


Go explains that to all those evil Jews in the French Assemblée Nationale, who got an Israel passport Roll Eyes...

So, that's allowed in France? I'm surprised with the lack of national requirements in some European countries. Maybe Europe's been in peace for too long. In Africa or Eastern Europe, it's impossible to enter politics if you aren't 100% native.

But is that a problem? If the person has lived in the country a long time, is a good citizen, contributes positively to society, etc, why is a political career not ok just because the person isn't 100% native or has double nationality?
legendary
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Your country may be your worst enemy
When Cameron leaves, Boris Johnson will probably succeed him but there's a problem. The man has 2 passports. One from the UK and another from the US. I can't imagine someone being head of government while carrying a foreign passport and paying tax to another country.

I've always dreamed of getting another passport, but when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country.


Go explains that to all those evil Jews in the French Assemblée Nationale, who got an Israel passport Roll Eyes...

So, that's allowed in France? I'm surprised with the lack of national requirements in some European countries. Maybe Europe's been in peace for too long. In Africa or Eastern Europe, it's impossible to enter politics if you aren't 100% native.
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When Cameron leaves, Boris Johnson will probably succeed him but there's a problem. The man has 2 passports. One from the UK and another from the US. I can't imagine someone being head of government while carrying a foreign passport and paying tax to another country.

I've always dreamed of getting another passport, but when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country.


Go explains that to all those evil Jews in the French Assemblée Nationale, who got an Israel passport Roll Eyes...
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If he's going to pussyfoot around, he ought to brexit and live in the states. Smiley
legendary
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I never knew this.. Do you have some examples of where Boris Johnson has said he has dual nationality? I can believe it, but evidence always helps.

And to the guy above who said you "can't just give up your US citizenship". Yes you can, just get dual nationality and then you can renounce your US citizenship. I hate how America is one of the only countries who taxes it's citizens no matter where they live - so they end up getting taxed twice.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11361816/Boris-Johnson-to-pay-six-figure-American-tax-bill.html

I've read about BoJo saying he will renounce its US citizenship, but I have yet to read that he effectively did. I guess he should start that process now, because it's taking several months.
legendary
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I never knew this.. Do you have some examples of where Boris Johnson has said he has dual nationality? I can believe it, but evidence always helps.

And to the guy above who said you "can't just give up your US citizenship". Yes you can, just get dual nationality and then you can renounce your US citizenship. I hate how America is one of the only countries who taxes it's citizens no matter where they live - so they end up getting taxed twice.
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When Cameron leaves, Boris Johnson will probably succeed him but there's a problem. The man has 2 passports. One from the UK and another from the US. I can't imagine someone being head of government while carrying a foreign passport and paying tax to another country.

I've always dreamed of getting another passport, but when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country.

Afaik you can't just give up your US citizenship. You have to pay US tax regardless of living in the UK. The only ways of giving up your passport in the US is becoming an enemy of the state or paying a huge amount of money.
legendary
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I know this is scary. Boris is a clown. He looks like one, too. But I guess people just like clowns. Political debates could be replaced by farting contests, most people would vote for the loudest guy.

Don't think that's it. Sure lots of problems with democracy. But I think this is people tired of the establishment. Many are tired of seeing their lives get worse and not having hope for the future. So they vote for politicians who look like they could bring change. We can see this in many places not only the uk. America with trump and sanders. Greece with syriza. Podemos in spain. Austria. Etc.

Change? BoJo is a conservative, and he's been in british politics for too long for anyone to think that he will bring major changes to the UK, except leaving the EU, but that is a return to the past.

This is a total non issue.

The only qualification you need to be prime minister is to be an mp. to be an mp you don't even need to be a british citizen. You can be an Irish or commonwealth citizen.

Some old lady who arrived from Lesotho six months ago could be prime minister if people wanted it. On top of that the queen could appoint anyone on the whole planet if she feels like it.

The queen can only appoint someone designated from the winning political party. She doesn't choose anything nor anyone, but I'm sure she wouldn't like it if the person she's asked to appoint carry a foreign passport in his pocket.
legendary
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This is a total non issue.

The only qualification you need to be prime minister is to be an mp. to be an mp you don't even need to be a british citizen. You can be an Irish or commonwealth citizen.

Some old lady who arrived from Lesotho six months ago could be prime minister if people wanted it. On top of that the queen could appoint anyone on the whole planet if she feels like it.
legendary
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I know this is scary. Boris is a clown. He looks like one, too. But I guess people just like clowns. Political debates could be replaced by farting contests, most people would vote for the loudest guy.

Don't think that's it. Sure lots of problems with democracy. But I think this is people tired of the establishment. Many are tired of seeing their lives get worse and not having hope for the future. So they vote for politicians who look like they could bring change. We can see this in many places not only the uk. America with trump and sanders. Greece with syriza. Podemos in spain. Austria. Etc.
legendary
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When Cameron leaves, Boris Johnson will probably succeed him but there's a problem. The man has 2 passports. One from the UK and another from the US. I can't imagine someone being head of government while carrying a foreign passport and paying tax to another country.

I've always dreamed of getting another passport, but when you're in politics, one must show full loyalty to the country.

It is still not clear whether Boris will succeed David Cameron. Until the news gets confirmed, we don't need to worry about his nationality. Still, if he becomes the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Boris must renounce his American passport. It is a long process and can take a few months to get all the formalities completed.
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