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Topic: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟 (New Price List 04/2021) - page 159. (Read 531503 times)

legendary
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C.A.T. 4.3 is behind the Door
And the new API will be :

https://www.livecoin.net/

legendary
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Merit: 1055
Sampey, I had to restore some orders and wondered about the "All" buttons on top of the dialog:



That could be really helpful but unfortunately they aren't working. Could you please check?
Maybe I simply don't know how to use them correctly, when I click on it, nothing happens.

With the ALL Button you will change the TYPE of Order (Sell Buy) Or The static/dynamic type.

They doesn't works? If you press ALL STATIC and then ALL DYNAMIC does every single combobox changes?

Ah, now I've got it:
you don't select the current orders with the buttons. You have to multi-select the orders you want to change in the list and then you can adjust settings of all orders selected with the "All" buttons. Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
Hey!  Cheesy
I wanted to say hi Sampey and wanted to add my experience as i saw some arguing about CAT's efficiency-

I bought CAT some months ago and if you ask me if i'm earning or loosing i would say: i am earning when i do the right things and i loose when i dont lol...
I meant: it is not CAT making me do wise moves on markets and it is not CAT guilty for my losses: it is ME (My Experience, My Efforts....etc) lol

I heard someone wanting to trade using candlesticks patterns? Yes you can do that: wait for the pattern to show up on your screen and give PING order to CAT. CAT will do its job very well and at the end of the PING-PONG cicle, CAT will give you a MATHEMATICAL GAIN.

By all meanings...double read this: at the end of the PING-PONG cicle, CAT will give you a MATHEMATICAL GAIN.

Read again....if you understood this you are right: IF market circumstances made the PING-PONG cicle to happen, you would mathematically gain.

If you understood this you are wrong: everytime i start a PING, a PONG will happen and i will gain.

Why that? For the following possible reasons:
1.- you are trading at loss because you didnt take in consideration the exchange fees: try to increase the min %GAIN (if you are in dynamic mode)
2.- PONG didnt happen because markets didnt follow your idea: BE PATIENT and wait for markets to go back where you planned, and a PONG will occurr.
3.- A lot of other reasons that would happen even without CAT (wrong patterns, markets crashes, side moving etc)

Some more tips:
1.- MATHEMATICAL GAIN isnt positive if you dont consider fees: CAT is not able to calculate fees but it knows fees AFTER a trade occurred. So have a look at Total %Gain in the GAINS tab and see if there are positive or negative numbers and eventually adjust your minimum %Gain in the PING-PONG dynamic orders tab.
2.- I would suggest you to not stop/cancel orders manually only because the PONG values are far to happen, unless you are facing up a very bearish market and you didnt set a limit to your losses. You have CAT now and if your considerations and calculations were right, just wait for your PONG to happen: it will soon or later, giving you a gain.
3.- ALWAYS apply the rule of thumb: NEVER invest more than what you can afford to loose.

CAT is not a magic wand, it is a tool for automatic trading cryptocurrencies: if you dont know how to trade cryptocurrencies, CAT will follow you...
legendary
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I know this has been asked time and time again, but does anyone have any good advice to make this profitable at all?
I'd be willing to pay if anyone has any winning strategies even a months retainer or something.

I'm just at a loss and not sure how to get the best out of it.

You must consider that fact that you only have a Cryptsy Api, so you are not using CAT (At least) from version 3.7 (when i remove Cryptsy API after Cryptsy closure), probably more than 1 year.
From CAT 3.7 and Currenc CAT 4.2 (C.A.T. 4.3 is behind the door) i've added a lot of parameters so you could probably be able to add more dynamism to your strategy.


sr. member
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I know this has been asked time and time again, but does anyone have any good advice to make this profitable at all?
I'd be willing to pay if anyone has any winning strategies even a months retainer or something.

I'm just at a loss and not sure how to get the best out of it.
sr. member
Activity: 441
Merit: 250
Bigboss
Can your bot create new ping X% lower then the previous one, thus covering declining market?

Yes  Wink
I was trying to play with this and ...
I can't really figure out how. I want to make each consistent buy-ping 3% lower then the previous one. And sell-pong on the best market price. How can this be done? I see nothing like that.
Thanks in advance.

You can do this way
From the order creator Panel go to the Dynamic Parameter attributes.
Here you can find a Tab called "Ping Price Limit"
There's an editor that will allows to create you any combination of price limit.

In your CASE you can set
Never Buy Over Your Last Ping Buy Price -X% (where X could be 5)
+
Never Buy Over Your Last Ping Sell Price -X% (where X could be 5)

After you configure the rule you must press the ADD button and you will see that rule added to a List.

After you add all your rules don't forget to press the UPDATE PARAMETER button (on top of parameters panel).


In the next release (4.3) that will be released soon, this panel will be easier to manage  Wink

Thanks Sampey, works nice.

I don't know about other people, I have bought it about a week ago. Playing low so far, trying to tune it up with 0.01 or so in one go. I must say though, I'm at about 20% roi so far. Nice bot man, please keep working on it.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
Thank you so much bitmaster1x  Wink
I appreciate your post  Smiley

bitmaster1x is for example, one of the customers i talk a LOT via PM messages.
He gives me a lot of suggestions, some simple and some complex, but always kindly.

In CAT 4.3 version for example there will be 3 improvements asked by him :
- One about save/restore market
- One about save/restore orders
- One about an improvements in market limit GUI inser/edit/delete rules.

 Smiley



Is it possible to implement some kind of cross-exchange price reference eg NEVER BUY OVER Poloniex ASK?


With Current CAT system (i mean software architecture) no.
1 Frame = 1 Exchange = 1 API Set.
hero member
Activity: 643
Merit: 501
Crypto Mentat
Thank you so much bitmaster1x  Wink
I appreciate your post  Smiley

bitmaster1x is for example, one of the customers i talk a LOT via PM messages.
He gives me a lot of suggestions, some simple and some complex, but always kindly.

In CAT 4.3 version for example there will be 3 improvements asked by him :
- One about save/restore market
- One about save/restore orders
- One about an improvements in market limit GUI inser/edit/delete rules.

 Smiley



Is it possible to implement some kind of cross-exchange price reference eg NEVER BUY OVER Poloniex ASK?

legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
Thank you so much bitmaster1x  Wink
I appreciate your post  Smiley

bitmaster1x is for example, one of the customers i talk a LOT via PM messages.
He gives me a lot of suggestions, some simple and some complex, but always kindly.

In CAT 4.3 version for example there will be 3 improvements asked by him :
- One about save/restore market
- One about save/restore orders
- One about an improvements in market limit GUI inser/edit/delete rules.

 Smiley

legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
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PS : I hope our flame ends here, and from next message we could have a constructive talks

Sampey - first time now I say the truth for me in public
(have always spared your business....)

in the last 3 years as customer I have lost xxBTC
but more worse I have lost hundrets of hours working and reconfiguring CAT cause of crash (freeze) of CAT or java (GUI) and not having time to restart - reconfigure it, stay stuck in changed markets!

I (we) have not always the time after a new start to reconfigure all what can take a half day if you have a few markets and exchanges....
you told me last time to sell my copy, but I will only sell if I have ROI WITH my working time I have invested, where we are far away...
for now CAT is a few weeks not working here, because of not having had the time to reconfigure all...
but always the hope dies at last and we are confident that you are on our side Wink
happy coding Smiley
(from a long time hopefully costumer) Smiley

I purchased Cat few days ago, it payed itself in 3 days. I had no problems with crashes or something.
Of course you have to reconfigure it periodically (according to your strategy), Cat is not magical, it isn' t an automatic trading system that you turn on and it make money for you. To use Cat you have to know and study (daily) cryptocurrencies market and set Cat properly.
In fact I can say if you can win by trading crypto manually you can have a nice improve with Cat, if you can' t, Cat wouldn' t make money for you.


Thank you so much.  Smiley Smiley
Usually when things doesnt works, people write here.
When things are ok, nobody write.  Undecided



I don't usually post on Bitcointalk as I have my own community to run. I do give free live hands-on trading lessons now and then when I have time, but not as many as I would like due to a lack of time.

I've been working with Sampey for a long time and consider him to be a good friend. He will always try to help anyone that have issues with CAT, so if people have trouble you have to help Sampey be able to reproduce the problem. Otherwise, the issue can't be fixed because if he can't reproduce the issue he doesn't know what needs to be fixed if any at all. Sometimes, it could just be a computer issue not having enough memory etc...

AS far as CAT is concerned, if you don't already know at least the basics of trading, having any type of automated trading system is not going to make you a successful trader. However, if you are a successful trader having an automated system can drastically improve your gains over time.

If you don't know how to trade, I would suggest taking the time to at least learn the basic fundamentals. Trading crypto is not like trading stocks or forex in a conventional market (I had to flush down my 20+ years of knowledge and conventional trading knowledge down the toilet and develop a completely new trading method for crypto).

Also keep this mentality in mind, "If my livelihood depended on my trading skills, would I make the same decisions?"

So just remember the next time you have issues, ask yourself if it's really a software issue and can I show Sampey the problem so he can reproduce it? ... or is it a computer issue issue? Always have a backup of the previous working version just in case.

Also, if you have never traded before or have never been successful at day trading, please avoid sending in suggestion on how trades should function.

When you have skills, you don't need luck as much.

Thanks. That's my 2 cents and probably my only post on here.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040

PS : I hope our flame ends here, and from next message we could have a constructive talks

Sampey - first time now I say the truth for me in public
(have always spared your business....)

in the last 3 years as customer I have lost xxBTC
but more worse I have lost hundrets of hours working and reconfiguring CAT cause of crash (freeze) of CAT or java (GUI) and not having time to restart - reconfigure it, stay stuck in changed markets!

I (we) have not always the time after a new start to reconfigure all what can take a half day if you have a few markets and exchanges....
you told me last time to sell my copy, but I will only sell if I have ROI WITH my working time I have invested, where we are far away...
for now CAT is a few weeks not working here, because of not having had the time to reconfigure all...
but always the hope dies at last and we are confident that you are on our side Wink
happy coding Smiley
(from a long time hopefully costumer) Smiley

I purchased Cat few days ago, it payed itself in 3 days. I had no problems with crashes or something.
Of course you have to reconfigure it periodically (according to your strategy), Cat is not magical, it isn' t an automatic trading system that you turn on and it make money for you. To use Cat you have to know and study (daily) cryptocurrencies market and set Cat properly.
In fact I can say if you can win by trading crypto manually you can have a nice improve with Cat, if you can' t, Cat wouldn' t make money for you.


Thank you so much.  Smiley Smiley
Usually when things doesnt works, people write here.
When things are ok, nobody write.  Undecided

newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0

PS : I hope our flame ends here, and from next message we could have a constructive talks

Sampey - first time now I say the truth for me in public
(have always spared your business....)

in the last 3 years as customer I have lost xxBTC
but more worse I have lost hundrets of hours working and reconfiguring CAT cause of crash (freeze) of CAT or java (GUI) and not having time to restart - reconfigure it, stay stuck in changed markets!

I (we) have not always the time after a new start to reconfigure all what can take a half day if you have a few markets and exchanges....
you told me last time to sell my copy, but I will only sell if I have ROI WITH my working time I have invested, where we are far away...
for now CAT is a few weeks not working here, because of not having had the time to reconfigure all...
but always the hope dies at last and we are confident that you are on our side Wink
happy coding Smiley
(from a long time hopefully costumer) Smiley

I purchased Cat few days ago, it payed itself in 3 days. I had no problems with crashes or something.
Of course you have to reconfigure it periodically (according to your strategy), Cat is not magical, it isn' t an automatic trading system that you turn on and it make money for you. To use Cat you have to know and study (daily) cryptocurrencies market and set Cat properly.
In fact I can say if you can win by trading crypto manually you can have a nice improve with Cat, if you can' t, Cat wouldn' t make money for you.
legendary
Activity: 1612
Merit: 1608
精神分析的爸
Hi there C.A.T. users.

Any one running C.A.T. on a Windows or Linux VPS with RDP/RDC or VNC that you would recommend?

Works nice here in a KVM VPS with Ubuntu 14.04 and accessed via VNC.
newbie
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Hi there C.A.T. users.

Any one running C.A.T. on a Windows or Linux VPS with RDP/RDC or VNC that you would recommend?
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
Can your bot create new ping X% lower then the previous one, thus covering declining market?

Yes  Wink
I was trying to play with this and ...
I can't really figure out how. I want to make each consistent buy-ping 3% lower then the previous one. And sell-pong on the best market price. How can this be done? I see nothing like that.
Thanks in advance.

You can do this way
From the order creator Panel go to the Dynamic Parameter attributes.
Here you can find a Tab called "Ping Price Limit"
There's an editor that will allows to create you any combination of price limit.

In your CASE you can set
Never Buy Over Your Last Ping Buy Price -X% (where X could be 5)
+
Never Buy Over Your Last Ping Sell Price -X% (where X could be 5)

After you configure the rule you must press the ADD button and you will see that rule added to a List.

After you add all your rules don't forget to press the UPDATE PARAMETER button (on top of parameters panel).


In the next release (4.3) that will be released soon, this panel will be easier to manage  Wink
sr. member
Activity: 441
Merit: 250
Bigboss
Can your bot create new ping X% lower then the previous one, thus covering declining market?

Yes  Wink
I was trying to play with this and ...
I can't really figure out how. I want to make each consistent buy-ping 3% lower then the previous one. And sell-pong on the best market price. How can this be done? I see nothing like that.
Thanks in advance.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
I always try to improve the code but the errors you got on your PC seems something related to your machine  Undecided
Everytime you post me an error log i tried to improve the code and find some "trick".
I Spent a LOT of time about that, i can ensure you.

And i will always try to improve GUI and Other Software parts.

Quote
but always the hope dies at last and we are confident that you are on our side

I am always on your side, but it seems that your're not on my side.

With this kind of response

Quote
but more worse I have lost hundrets of hours working and reconfiguring CAT cause of crash (freeze) of CAT or java (GUI)

Youre make me a damage.
Because it seems that CAT always Crash, where the truth is that CAT is very stable. There are peole who run CAT for weeks without problems and without restarts. I'm sure there's some problem with CAT on your PC, and it's not a CAT Problem (i mean a problem inside my code).
But a wannabe customers that read such things what could think???

I am always here to help, but you must help me too. Because i can't work this way.  Undecided
legendary
Activity: 2955
Merit: 1049

Oh Ewibit, welcome back  Wink
I have a question for you : why did you ask for OKCoin api for many month and now that i added you didn't get the API?

You know that i worked a lot for you, from order to restore window to OKCoin API (you can believe it or not, but your continue request about that was one of the reason i choose to add OKCoin).


thx for your work, but in the last weeks I have not had the time to deal with CAT and I always be pleased with your work, but there is a life outside in real life too, which sometimes is more important...
and a day is much too short...
legendary
Activity: 2955
Merit: 1049

PS : I hope our flame ends here, and from next message we could have a constructive talks

Sampey - first time now I say the truth for me in public
(have always spared your business....)

in the last 3 years as customer I have lost xxBTC
but more worse I have lost hundrets of hours working and reconfiguring CAT cause of crash (freeze) of CAT or java (GUI) and not having time to restart - reconfigure it, stay stuck in changed markets!

I (we) have not always the time after a new start to reconfigure all what can take a half day if you have a few markets and exchanges....
you told me last time to sell my copy, but I will only sell if I have ROI WITH my working time I have invested, where we are far away...
for now CAT is a few weeks not working here, because of not having had the time to reconfigure all...
but always the hope dies at last and we are confident that you are on our side Wink
happy coding Smiley
(from a long time hopefully costumer) Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040

You dont need an API for candleticks: they are grahically created based on price fluctuations over time (and CAT already have all of that).
You could create triggers for these changes over time like for example:
TRIGGER 1: (CLOSE - OPEN) > 0
TRIGGER 2: (The CLOSE 1 candle in the PAST - The OPEN 1 candle in the PAST) > 0
TRIGGER 3: (The CLOSE 2 candles in the PAST - The OPEN 2 candles in the PAST) > 0

and create PINGS or PONGS only if those triggers are matched. In this way you would make CAT aware of bullish or bearish trends.

It is not "artificial intelligence" Sampey...it is math...calculated price fluctuations over time.
+1 Smiley

Oh Ewibit, welcome back  Wink
I have a question for you : why did you ask for OKCoin api for many month and now that i added you didn't get the API?

You know that i worked a lot for you, from order to restore window to OKCoin API (you can believe it or not, but your continue request about that was one of the reason i choose to add OKCoin).

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