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Topic: 【 BOT 】 C.A.T. Cryptsy Automatic Trader 1 [email protected] (Old Topic Beta1-Beta3V8) - page 36. (Read 151173 times)

hero member
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There are technical problems to do something like this. I have tought about, but no way.  Undecided

hmm too bad. Is it possible to lend someone else's key? Like if i buy it, can my friend borrow my key?
legendary
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There are technical problems to do something like this. I have tought about, but no way.  Undecided
hero member
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considering markets are rather stable and no extreme pump and dumps are going on

This is the problems : too much factor.
You must find your way.............i think that people does over 0.2 Day, doesn't come here to tell parameters  Wink
I have never seen people who have set %Gain > 10, but if you choose markets that have +/- 20% difference each day, is better to have 1% Gain or 15% Gain?
It's better to make 10 Ping-Pong of 15% GAIN of 1000 Ping-Pong of 1% GAIN? Very hard to tell.....

With 2 BTC i think you could do 0.1 DAY (But not everyday)

Sometimes, you coul do 0.1 Gain but -0.3 Market Devaluation (i've lost 1.5 BTC without do nothing in the last week)



yea i understand. Like i said, I am not asking for parameters, just asking on what is realistic to make with 2 btc. Thanks for your answers. Maybe another idea is to offer trial keys? 0.8 btc is a lot for me for something I am not so sure of yet. I'd rather try a license for a week or so, for a smaller sum. Too bad this is not possible Smiley
legendary
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considering markets are rather stable and no extreme pump and dumps are going on

This is the problems : too much factor.
You must find your way.............i think that people does over 0.2 Day, doesn't come here to tell parameters  Wink
I have never seen people who have set %Gain > 10, but if you choose markets that have +/- 20% difference each day, is better to have 1% Gain or 15% Gain?
It's better to make 10 Ping-Pong of 15% GAIN of 1000 Ping-Pong of 1% GAIN? Very hard to tell.....

With 2 BTC i think you could do 0.1 DAY (But not everyday)

Sometimes, you coul do 0.1 Gain but -0.3 Market Devaluation (i've lost 1.5 BTC without do nothing in the last week)

hero member
Activity: 602
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hello. I've been following this topic for a while and i am rather interested. The thing is, i hardly see any results here. I imagine those guys want to keep the results for themselves but i'm quite curious on how much money there is to be made. I am active on a lot of coins/markets on cryptsy manually, and i do daytrading from time to time. I know what are default values, and what are usually good prices to buy certain coins. Again, i do everything manually.

So, I'm assuming i have the knowledge to set up the bot to my needs. I am however wondering, what the average profit is to be made when i set it up correctly. Let's say I have 2 BTC in my cryptsy account. How much can I make if i setup some markets, let's say for 5 coins. I don't need a correct answer but something similar from users would be nice. Is it possible to get 0.1 btc per day portfolio value (considering markets are rather stable and no extreme pump and dumps are going on) or would it be more in the order of 0.01.

Just some general questions. Feedback is appreciated.
legendary
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In the next version :

Default Value Of Ping Pong is "Aggressive @ 0.8 GAIN"
New Toolbar Option "Check % Diff on Each Open Market"
legendary
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in Balance, can you add a function that open the market on click? I know that there will be a little problem for those market in LTC & XPM but it will be usefull!
and if it's possible i'd like to have a

I think i will do it, but i must choose what to do with multiple markets (i think i will use a message for users to choose wich markets open)

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default % min guaranteed gain for every market
A Check current status for all open (and running) markets

I'm working on it (check current status for all open markets need a default % guaranteed  Wink)
legendary
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in Balance, can you add a function that open the market on click? I know that there will be a little problem for those market in LTC & XPM but it will be usefull!
and if it's possible i'd like to have a

default % min guaranteed gain for every market
A Check current status for all open (and running) markets
legendary
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- Skip Orders With Total < Than. With this Option Active C.A.T. during his Algorithm will not consider orders with total amount lower than the parameter value.
- Don't create ping with total < Than. After a successfull Ping-Pong the total amount of this order will be put in the "Cauldron" and from the "Cauldron" will be created new sell/buy orders. With this option activated you will limit the creation on "little orders". If total in Cauldron will be < than this parameter, C.A.T. will wait for more money in cauldron.


e.g. if we were using DOGE/LTC, would the total be referring to total Doge quantity, or total LTC quantity?

Total = Quantity * Price = Value in BTC/LTC/XPM

ES :

DEM : Price 0.00018850 Quantity 15 = TOTAL 0.00281902
newbie
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- Skip Orders With Total < Than. With this Option Active C.A.T. during his Algorithm will not consider orders with total amount lower than the parameter value.
- Don't create ping with total < Than. After a successfull Ping-Pong the total amount of this order will be put in the "Cauldron" and from the "Cauldron" will be created new sell/buy orders. With this option activated you will limit the creation on "little orders". If total in Cauldron will be < than this parameter, C.A.T. will wait for more money in cauldron.


e.g. if we were using DOGE/LTC, would the total be referring to total Doge quantity, or total LTC quantity?
sr. member
Activity: 462
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Maybe I'm just losing it.. But say I buy 100 wdc and ping pong that.. then again and again.. C.A.T. seems to buy the 100 wdc, sell it for so much btc, then buy 100+ wdc and then sell only 100..  I'm accumulating dust and then full coins over the course of the day and C.A.T. won't sell it.  This would also apply to mining deposits to my cryptsy account.  I want to sell it all (or buy and hold).  Can there be an option added to sell the chosen coin  to zero coins each ping pong?

I think the problem is that C.A.T. is only trading part of your 'pot' to fill an order that meets your gain selection.
full member
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Maybe I'm just losing it.. But say I buy 100 wdc and ping pong that.. then again and again.. C.A.T. seems to buy the 100 wdc, sell it for so much btc, then buy 100+ wdc and then sell only 100..  I'm accumulating dust and then full coins over the course of the day and C.A.T. won't sell it.  This would also apply to mining deposits to my cryptsy account.  I want to sell it all (or buy and hold).  Can there be an option added to sell the chosen coin  to zero coins each ping pong?
legendary
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i'm asking because in the last 3 days i see that C.A.T. stopped trading some coin pairs in my portfolio


That's bearish market. When we bought position and market go against,  CAT still hold  position in loss and waiting for trade which never come.
Try try to select markets which grow up (bullish markets or sideways markets), there works fine.

Look for bullish markets or sideways markets.
thanks for advice.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 500
These markets are completedly Frozen?
Today i have run a 24H test with new code to avoid API error result. And what i see is that Cryptsy sometimes return bad JSON Formatted Result. I wasn't expected something like this (and i don't know the reason). So i have write a more resistant code in the API Interface, and i hope next release will correct all these problems.

Yep, were all frozen.

Just had another one (FFC/BTC):
[Gen]
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2014-01-07 23:02:27| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]
2014-01-07 23:02:27| PONG-27189771 : Sell [email protected] Current 113.00000000 | Order Successfully Created ID 27189771
2014-01-07 23:02:27| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]
2014-01-07 23:02:27| PONG-27189775 : Sell [email protected] Current 120.00000000 | Order Successfully Created ID 27189775
2014-01-07 23:02:27| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]

[Error]
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2014-01-07 23:02:28| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 100.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 23:19:15| Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
2014-01-07 23:19:15| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : Insufficient FFC in account to complete this order. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 23:19:16| Adequate Quantity To Min. Required 6.71805728 to 10.00000000
2014-01-07 23:19:17| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 100.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 23:33:44| Force Algo Restart, Last Lookup Was 31 minutes ago

Is it to do with trying to push through an order on the API which is under the minimum order limit for a market ??

I checked in CryptoMinQuantity.xml, and it seems FFC min order is set to 10, where Cryptsy website says 100...

Any chance you could check to see we have up to date minimum order values in the xml file ? Maybe Cryptsy increased min. orders !

[Edit] NET/BTC is also wrong...1 in XML but 10 on Cryptsy

Also, is this file read on the fly, i.e can I change it with CAT running or do I have to restart ? (and enter all my orders again!)

[Edit] Seems this file is only read at startup. I also checked my other markets and loads are wrong...

                  .xml file       Cryptsy
DGC/BTC       (no entry)       0.10
WDC/BTC      (no entry)       0.10
MEC/BTC       (no entry)       0.10
SRC/BTC       (no entry)       0.10
LTC/BTC        (no entry)      0.01
PPC/BTC        (no entry)       0.01
ANC/BTC       (no entry)       0.01
FFC/BTC           10               100
CSC/BTC            1                10
XPM/BTC        (no entry)      0.01

legendary
Activity: 1418
Merit: 1002
Sampey ...

do you know of a way to do automatic withdrawals in cryptsy through their API?
Their API doesnt list anything about withdrawals.

Say I like QRK, and as I trade it and want to withdraw automatically to my wallet...

Cheers!
newbie
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Merit: 0
Sampey...thanks for your responses ! Things are definitely getting clearer for my brain  Roll Eyes


I'd like to make some suggestions for the program then, mostly about getting feedback on how the algos and markets you have chosen are performing....

  • I think most people would like to keep track of daily earnings over a 24hr period, so sum of all ping pong successes. This should be calculated between a user configurable set time each day. I think many users would do their daily housekeeping around the same time each day and then want the 'new' period to start after this. Historical daily earnings in a graph would be great. Graph needs to be interactive, so can hover to see actual values.
  • It would be great to see which markets have given the best returns on each previous day, so users can make decisions as to if it is worth staying in that market or not. Maybe this is easiest shown on a stacked area chart with one colour to each market, as this also shows the total (above). The problem with this is what happens when users remove markets and add new ones to their trading ? What you could do is simply make the colour code for each market directly from the market ID via a formula. There is a chance you might end up with too similar colour next to each other, but on the plus side users would be able to post and compare charts, and each market colour would be consistent.

I think both of these are good suggestions, and it would be nice to see users posting their results, gloating over their massive profits  Grin Might be good advertising for CAT too...if you want that....

These are definitely 'nice to have' suggestions with low priority

cheers

+1
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
These markets are completedly Frozen?
Today i have run a 24H test with new code to avoid API error result. And what i see is that Cryptsy sometimes return bad JSON Formatted Result. I wasn't expected something like this (and i don't know the reason). So i have write a more resistant code in the API Interface, and i hope next release will correct all these problems.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 500
Thanks...that makes more sense.


On another point, I am getting lots of hanging markets in C.A.T. Market tabs stuck at 'Lookup'. No updates to General Log. Program been running for a day and a half without restart.

(Time is 18:23)

e.g.

KGC/BTC - Gen Log
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2014-01-07 17:51:09| PONG-27111117 : Sell [email protected] Current 0.00000000 | Remove From Queue
2014-01-07 17:53:09| PING-27111268 : Buy [email protected] Current 1102.00774525 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Retry Calculation.
2014-01-07 17:53:09| Check Buy/Sell Pools.
2014-01-07 17:53:09| Try To Create new Order Buy [email protected]
2014-01-07 17:53:10| PING-27112032 : Buy [email protected] Current 14.40533562 | Order Successfully Created ID 27112032
2014-01-07 17:53:10| PING-27112032 : Buy [email protected] Current 14.40533562 | New Ping Order Created From Buy Pool
KGC/BTC - Error Log
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2014-01-07 17:42:41| Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
2014-01-07 17:42:41| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : Insufficient KGC in account to complete this order. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request

FFC/BTC -Gen log
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2014-01-07 17:35:40| PONG-27104932 : Sell [email protected] Current 175.86788616 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Retry Calculation.
2014-01-07 17:35:40| Cannot Create/Recreate Order Reference Price : High 0.00000276 Low 0.00000280 % Difference is -1.42857142 Must Be At Least > 0.5
2014-01-07 17:35:40| PONG-27104934 : Sell [email protected] Current 145.34603657 | Order Status Not Changed No Condition For Retry Calculation.
2014-01-07 17:35:40| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]
FFC/BTC - Error Log
Quote
2014-01-07 17:35:45| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 100.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 17:52:43| Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
2014-01-07 17:52:43| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : Insufficient FFC in account to complete this order. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 17:52:44| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 100.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 18:09:31| Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
2014-01-07 18:09:31| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : Insufficient FFC in account to complete this order. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 18:09:33| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 100.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 18:26:21| Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
2014-01-07 18:26:21| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : Insufficient FFC in account to complete this order. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 18:26:22| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 100.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request

NET/BTC - Gen log
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2014-01-07 16:40:54| Check Buy/Sell Pools.
2014-01-07 16:40:54| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]
2014-01-07 16:40:54| PING-27092116 : Sell [email protected] Current 433.06983655 | Order Successfully Created ID 27092116
2014-01-07 16:40:54| PING-27092116 : Sell [email protected] Current 433.06983655 | New Ping Order Created From Sell Pool
2014-01-07 16:43:34| PING-27090497 : Sell [email protected] Current 0.27533708 | Try to Delete/Recreate, New Values : [email protected]
2014-01-07 16:44:14| Try To Create new Order Sell [email protected]
NET/BTC - Error log
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2014-01-07 16:43:34| Adequate Quantity To Min. Required 0.27533708 to 1.00000000
2014-01-07 16:44:14| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 10.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 17:01:03| Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
2014-01-07 17:01:03| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : Insufficient NET in account to complete this order. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 17:01:05| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 10.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 17:18:00| Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
2014-01-07 17:18:00| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : Insufficient NET in account to complete this order. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 17:18:01| Force Algo Restart, Last Lookup Was 34 minutes ago
2014-01-07 17:18:02| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 10.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 17:35:03| Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
2014-01-07 17:35:03| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : Insufficient NET in account to complete this order. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 17:35:20| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 10.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 17:52:25| Call Aborted! Json Result Error during createorder Call Is Aborted After 25 retry
2014-01-07 17:52:25| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : Insufficient NET in account to complete this order. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request
2014-01-07 17:52:27| Create Order Error From Cryptsy : An error has occurred in your order.  Minimum trade amount is 10.00000000. Please try again. Try To Adequate Order Creation Request

Do you have an idea what is going on?

thanks
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1040
Sampey,


Could you explain what is the advantage of using the Never Buy/Sell Directly option ?

I understand what it is, but not exactly how it would benefit me.

thanks Smiley



If C.A.T. calculate a price that guaranteed you GAIN but this price will go directly over an active buy/sell orders C.A.T. will recalculate a new price to avoid the direct/buy sell, and you order will be in the top of the buy/sell queue. If someone will buy/sell that order, your Gain will be higher.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 500
Sampey,


Could you explain what is the advantage of using the Never Buy/Sell Directly option ?

I understand what it is, but not exactly how it would benefit me.

thanks Smiley

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