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ninjaboon

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Quote from: saxman717 on January 10, 2014, 06:12:07 PM

Quote from: Sampey on January 10, 2014, 06:01:06 PM

Estimated portfolio value is very fluctuating, but remember that your REAL portfolio value, if you sell ALL at the same time, you will get something like 60% of the Estemated portfolio values.

I Mean, If you have 10 Estimated, and you sell ALL, you will get 6 BTC (maybe less)

So is the market really bad this afternoon? If I sold all now, you're saying I might only have 0.6*1.86 = 1.11 BTC out of my starting 2.04 BTC ---- did I really lose almost 1 BTC in just a few hours running CAT?

markets are usually in a downtrend on weekends and late Fridays.

so better play from Monday to Thursdays as CAT seems to be better
during a sideway and uptrend market.

Shao128

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Sampey, any chance you could add an option when a ping-pong is complete to send a Growl (GNTP) notification? Since there are Growl apps for pretty much all platforms, including mobile, it might be a neat feature to offer. There are Java libs you already built, so it shouldn't be too much to implement, you can find them here: http://www.growlforwindows.com/gfw/developers.aspx

Maurizio

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when i sold all coins the value was allmost the same like before, a bit higher

saxman717

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Thanks for the example, Sampey!

I'm pretty concerned, though, because my account is now 1.66 BTC when it started at 2.04 BTC just ~4 hours ago.

Why does my CAT balance list at ~2.04 BTC (and I have refreshed it many times) while my official Cryptsy balance fluctuates between ~1.66 to 1.75 BTC?

Sampey

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Quote from: saxman717 on January 10, 2014, 06:12:07 PM

Quote from: Sampey on January 10, 2014, 06:01:06 PM

Estimated portfolio value is very fluctuating, but remember that your REAL portfolio value, if you sell ALL at the same time, you will get something like 60% of the Estemated portfolio values.

I Mean, If you have 10 Estimated, and you sell ALL, you will get 6 BTC (maybe less)

So is the market really bad this afternoon? If I sold all now, you're saying I might only have 0.6*1.86 = 1.11 BTC out of my starting 2.04 BTC ---- did I really lose almost 1 BTC in just a few hours running CAT?

No no no, it's not C.A.T. fault! Wink

1 - Market Devaluation has nothing to do with C.A.T. (you can avoid only not to have Alternative CC, but if all Alternative CC starts growth and you have only BTC you will stay frozen to watch........)
2 - Estimated portfolio value is based on Last Trade.

Let's do a real Example :

BTC/XXX

Last Trade of this market is a SELL @ 0.01
You have 100 XXX so Estimated Portfolio Value is 100 * 0.01 = 1

Current BUY queue is :

Buy 20 @ 0.009
Buy 10 @ 0.008
Buy 10 @ 0.007
Buy 10 @ 0.006
Buy 10 @ 0.005
Buy 10 @ 0.004
Buy 10 @ 0.003
Buy 10 @ 0.002
Buy 10 @ 0.001

You Sell ALL (100), you think to convert XXX -> BTC and get 1 BTC.
But you will get this :

20 x 0.009 + 10 x 0.008 + 10 @ 0.007 + 10 @ 0.006 + 10 @ 0.005 + 10 @ 0.004 + 10 @ 0.003 + 10 @ 0.002 + 10 @ 0.001 =

0.18 + 0.08 + 0.07 + 0.06 + 0.05 + 0.04 + 0.03 + 0.02 + 0.01 = 0.54

Estimated (1) - Real (0.54) = 0.46 Less Than What You think

saxman717

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Quote from: Sampey on January 10, 2014, 06:01:06 PM

Estimated portfolio value is very fluctuating, but remember that your REAL portfolio value, if you sell ALL at the same time, you will get something like 60% of the Estemated portfolio values.

I Mean, If you have 10 Estimated, and you sell ALL, you will get 6 BTC (maybe less)

So is the market really bad this afternoon? If I sold all now, you're saying I might only have 0.6*1.86 = 1.11 BTC out of my starting 2.04 BTC ---- did I really lose almost 1 BTC in just a few hours running CAT?

Sampey

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Estimated portfolio value is very fluctuating, but remember that your REAL portfolio value, if you sell ALL at the same time, you will get something like 60% of the Estemated portfolio values.

I Mean, If you have 10 Estimated, and you sell ALL, you will get 6 BTC (maybe less)

saxman717

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My balance on Cryptsy has been fluctuating between 1.84 and 1.9 BTC, when I started at 2.04 BTC about 2 hours ago. My CAT shows some gains in the meantime, and my CAT balance shows ~2.03 BTC. Why is there such a discrepancy?

Which is accurate? Did I really lose ~8-10% of my BTC in just a couple hours? Is it because I am trading risky high volume coins like lotto and infinity? Would this have happened if I stuck with the more conservative coins only?

Sampey

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In the next version there will be an utility to auto-create the XML File of miminum quantity

Maurizio

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I believe that CAT user will support and donate at the point where they can see a plus in there estimated portfolio value (i understand that CAT is not the factor why that didnt happen in this devaluation period)

I also believe that a CAT which run different exchanges will get you more BTC/copy

Sampey

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Quote from: Maurizio on January 10, 2014, 04:59:59 PM

Do you have an exclusiv deal with cryptsy/Big Vern
Or would it be possible to trade with CAT on a different exchange?

No no, i'm an endependent programmer. I haven't get 0.00000001 From Cryptsy.
But to fully interface C.A.T. with BTC-e it requires a lot of work..........and if i ask a little donations (and i will ensure the interface with btc-e) i'm sure people won't give me any support Undecided

Maurizio

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Thats absolut the point why CAT should run on btc-e.
When bitcoin devaluates all the alt coins go down, in these cases it would
be very helpfull if we all could save the coins in Fiat and then buy coins
when they are on the ground before they have an upswing.

Do you have an exclusiv deal with cryptsy/Big Vern
Or would it be possible to trade with CAT on a different exchange?

Sampey

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Current problem is a great General market devaluation. I have lost 2 BTC (on Cryptsy) without do nothing.
A lot of coin have dropped over 50% values (Dem was @ 0.00008000 now is @ 0.00001800). I hope that there will be a positive revaluation in the next weeks.
C.A.T. can't do miracles, i hope this is obvious for everyone.

saxman717

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Can anyone help with starter settings and strategy? I only set a buy order, not a sell order....should I set both or will CAT run well with just a buy order set?

What about the other settings? A good lesson on CAT strategy beyond what is posted on the 1st page would be golden....

Maurizio

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Me and Bachmann and a few other CAT users have that problem with having gains on CAT but portfolio value goes down....
i think to trade just in agressiv mode is a dangerous game.
I need also a better strategy cause I lost coins Cry

Sampey

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Quote from: Maurizio on January 10, 2014, 04:28:16 PM

Are you sure? I think the "Held for orders" is calculated in the estimated portfolio value

Yes, i'm wrong, sorry Wink

Maurizio

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Are you sure? I think the "Held for orders" is calculated in the estimated portfolio value
We talk from the Balances on cryptsy? the coins on the right in "held for orders" are not calculated in the estimated portfolio value?

Sampey

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Quote from: saxman717 on January 10, 2014, 04:01:48 PM

May need some guidance bc my account value has gone from 2.04 BTC to 1.89 BTC in 1 hour!

Amount held for orders is not calculated in your estimated portfolio value.

saxman717

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May need some guidance bc my account value has gone from 2.04 BTC to 1.89 BTC in 1 hour! I'm trading 15 markets with high volume and Buy Trade 24H........am I going to go bust in less than a day?!?!

I evenly distributed BTC between the 15 markets, set a ping buy order at the recommended value, set min guaranteed % gain to 1.25, set sell all if % with ref price is < -15 for all markets, and am letting them run. Will I go broke if I don't change settings on these soon??

btc_dude007

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Quote from: Stefan on January 10, 2014, 01:33:11 PM

Quote from: btc_dude007 on January 10, 2014, 01:17:42 PM

Quote from: Stefan on January 10, 2014, 01:04:44 PM

Quote from: btc_dude007 on January 10, 2014, 12:01:53 PM

...I use CAT at work place and my network security guy lgot alert and see a lots traffic come from my PC and he ask me to remove program ;( damn it.
...

If you want to run CAT independently on your network uptime, bandwidth or other restrictions, use the smallest Windows Azure instance (less than $20 monthly in Pay As You Go) or the free tier of Amazon AWS. The only condition needed is that outgoing RDP connections are not blocked. RDP ports can be set other than default for both providers. And you must have remote desktop client of course, Remote Desktop is bundled with Windows, just try searching Remote Desktop in your system's language in Start Menu.

Thanks for your suggestion, at my work place, they use websense and pretty much they block everything even youtube, i am not a computer guru, and try to hack thru the work network is not a good idea. since the network guy already aware i am using CAT, I just want to sell CAT and get some btc back. Wink

you don't have the opportunity to run it from home? if this is the only reason, it's too early to give up... but it's up to you

dont have much time when got home.

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