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Topic: Bottlecaps 2.1 UPDATE REQUIRED - HARDFORK JULY 4 2014 to 200% Annual PoS - page 153. (Read 388610 times)

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Have you mined Bottlecaps today?
New client released with auto check pointing every block and new wallet icons. Enjoy!
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Latest Vern Pool(s) update:

Connected to Caps pool again for a day and STILL several random confirmed blocks were missing payments..

He has gotten back to me in the past and stated he thought he had found the problem and was working on it and even said it should be fixed..but still the missing (or stolen) payments....and has not got back to my latest messages.

I don't know how long this can go on for but I've been giving him the benefit of the doubt for a long time time now and patience is wearing thin...and its not just this one pool..it may be all of them..but I'm going to keep messaging him and see what happens but if it still goes on for much longer then it can be assumed its basically theft of miners coins (as many believe so already) and then myself and many others will be posting on all the associated forums, blogs, twitter, etc to stay away from his pools and it seems there are several who believe this and are willing to do so..but im not there just yet but patience is wearing thin..and I truly hope this is not malicious theft....time will tell...

legendary
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Caps are filthy cheap! I think it is just metter of time before they explode!  Cool
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I am aware of some bugs in the current implementation of the pool using mmfce.   I have tried to plug as many of them as possible, I think I've gotten most of the issues with the missing block payouts.

Instead of trying to continuously fix mmfce, I'm working on a new pool software, which should work much better and run much smoother than this version.   Until I get the new version out, I will continue to patch this one up as much as I can.

BigVern


Thanks for the reply Vern.
I hope it gets solved quickly and easily and as soon as it does I will return to your pool(s) as I'm sure many others may too. Just let us know.
But out of curiosity..just what is happening g with the *thousands* of unpaid coins that you and your pools are accumulating?
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I am aware of some bugs in the current implementation of the pool using mmfce.   I have tried to plug as many of them as possible, I think I've gotten most of the issues with the missing block payouts.

Instead of trying to continuously fix mmfce, I'm working on a new pool software, which should work much better and run much smoother than this version.   Until I get the new version out, I will continue to patch this one up as much as I can.

BigVern
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Lazy Lurker Reads Alot
Well if it was me i would have left that pool instant, especially since it allready a long term issue in other words simple theft of your mined coins.
The longer you guys wait the more coins he can steal from you people
I  bet you had solo more coins then you are getting now
newbie
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Anyone else having "missing payments" at Vern's pool (Bottlecapspool.com)? Last couple days I have noticed dozens of random "confirmed" blocks for which payments are missing. I know two others who are having same issue. Just curious if anyone else here is using that pool and missing payments?
I have messaged Vern and he is looking into it I believe

I have a lot of blocks for which the reward column is blank... Even for blocks for which I'm the finder. This isn't a new issue though and is one of the reasons I stopped mining there previously. I didn't realize the pool was back up so I decided to test it out again. My rewards were are about 20% under the estimated amount, but I don't know if those blank amounts are actually paid out or not. Please post when you know something more.



I too had seen this in past but also had times where I went days with every block being paid...but now, this time around (and only on Caps pool at moment that I'm talking about) there are MANY more missing payment spots..I did the math and every coin was accounted for with the spots showing payments thus meaning all those empty confirmed blocks are *missing* payments and for me personally its gone as high as 40% at times! Caps basically has a 99% efficiency with few stales and orphans so payments are typically very close to estimates (based on changing and current difficulties) but this pool is waaay off and only due to missing or withheld payments and other pools are not doing this. This is definitely a pool issue and not a coin or client issue. His pool IS getting the blocks it is showing and they DO CONFIRM UP to and past 120 blocks meaning his pool IS getting 10 coins for ALL  those blocks but then for many of them payments don't get split up amongst its miners properly...at this moment I can only speak for myself and two others but does appear to be widespread amongst many if not all miners in that pool..

Did you report this to the pool owner?

I most certainly did..a few times... at last it was left at "I don't know what is causing it and I'm looking into it"..that was about 5-6 days ago..have asked for update yesterday but nothing back since..


I have mined 3 or 4 of his pools and they all do it.  I've sent email to the support email on the pools and never received any response.

I'll mine solo and take my chances before using any of Vern's pools.

yes i have to agree here too--i also had sent him multiple emails etc.. and never got him to respond to my numbers and the ONE lone time he did respond was when i got him at his crypsty email, but upon asking him about the balance of my account and the balance of pool at which time i was tracking--he always held a 10000+incoming mining balance on just that pool alone, then i discovered much the same on his other pools and decided to just leave ALL his pools. If i remember right , he would get like 3 or 4 mining pays but only paying out 2 or 3 each time thus keeping the 10000 + balance--i do know some pool owners keep a reserve balance for emergencies and in event of long winded rounds but he wouldnt even admit or acknowledge that, so like i said i left.

if interested , i think i can still pull up old posts where i even posted my findings here to see if anyone knew what was going on.
so if anyone wants some more details on this PM me and will be more then happy to provide.

Well he has gotten back to me a couple of times now recently but I feel like he might be stringing me along. He says he thinks he found the problem as is working on it..but that's been a while and won't give other updates. I do know this has happened in the past and I test every few days with only a single GPU now to see how the payouts go and its still doing this (missing or stolen) payments all the time. Many random confirmed blocks have no payouts and it can swing wildly from 15% to 50% of blocks that I'm missing payouts!
I'm trying hard to give him the benefit of the doubt but something IS DEFINITELY going on there and I only hope its not intentional because his pool(s) are getting all the valid confirmed blocks that they show but consistently miss many payouts to its miners meaning the pool or himself is compiling THOUSANDS of coins that are supposed to be paid to miners.

I don't want to cross that line yet like many others that say it is malicious and he is essentially stealing all these coins but he sure better start communicating better and actually appear to be fixing this longstanding issue and get it resolved soon.

So VERN...if you are reading this (as I know u post here occasionally) please address this issue and get this fixed before all the negative press starts spreading even more and you lose more miners to this...
legendary
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This means that there is no checkpointing node online. You can't do anything to fix this, just work as usual.
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I am constant seeing with the latest version:

checkpoint is too old contact developers is the issue .......

Deleted 4 times the whole map besides the wallet and let it redownload but almost at the end it starts whining
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@Bit_John
I agree its worth more so I just keep buying it the profitability is always good and it pays stake. I look at it more long term and think when it does double o triple that I can buy lots of BBQ sauce, iTunes, Visa prepaid cards and jerky. Make sure to support these services with your currently cheap caps.
legendary
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I meant the price... It is worth at least x3 times more.
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www.multipool.us
CAPs are currently on the life support. I really dont understand why, since all is fixed and working nice... I really like CAPs, its one of the best coins out there, we should do something to ressurect it..

What do you mean by 'life support'?  The coin is still quite profitable to mine.
legendary
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CAPs are currently on the life support. I really dont understand why, since all is fixed and working nice... I really like CAPs, its one of the best coins out there, we should do something to ressurect it..
legendary
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Update coming in 24 hours updated wallet and a few other things nothing major.

The stake calculation fix went over smoothly hence the more precise payouts for POS blocks now

Ill have more updates with the release. Vacation went longer than expected
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Its all about the Gold
Anyone else having "missing payments" at Vern's pool (Bottlecapspool.com)? Last couple days I have noticed dozens of random "confirmed" blocks for which payments are missing. I know two others who are having same issue. Just curious if anyone else here is using that pool and missing payments?
I have messaged Vern and he is looking into it I believe

I have a lot of blocks for which the reward column is blank... Even for blocks for which I'm the finder. This isn't a new issue though and is one of the reasons I stopped mining there previously. I didn't realize the pool was back up so I decided to test it out again. My rewards were are about 20% under the estimated amount, but I don't know if those blank amounts are actually paid out or not. Please post when you know something more.

I too had seen this in past but also had times where I went days with every block being paid...but now, this time around (and only on Caps pool at moment that I'm talking about) there are MANY more missing payment spots..I did the math and every coin was accounted for with the spots showing payments thus meaning all those empty confirmed blocks are *missing* payments and for me personally its gone as high as 40% at times! Caps basically has a 99% efficiency with few stales and orphans so payments are typically very close to estimates (based on changing and current difficulties) but this pool is waaay off and only due to missing or withheld payments and other pools are not doing this. This is definitely a pool issue and not a coin or client issue. His pool IS getting the blocks it is showing and they DO CONFIRM UP to and past 120 blocks meaning his pool IS getting 10 coins for ALL  those blocks but then for many of them payments don't get split up amongst its miners properly...at this moment I can only speak for myself and two others but does appear to be widespread amongst many if not all miners in that pool..

Did you report this to the pool owner?

I most certainly did..a few times... at last it was left at "I don't know what is causing it and I'm looking into it"..that was about 5-6 days ago..have asked for update yesterday but nothing back since..


I have mined 3 or 4 of his pools and they all do it.  I've sent email to the support email on the pools and never received any response.

I'll mine solo and take my chances before using any of Vern's pools.

yes i have to agree here too--i also had sent him multiple emails etc.. and never got him to respond to my numbers and the ONE lone time he did respond was when i got him at his crypsty email, but upon asking him about the balance of my account and the balance of pool at which time i was tracking--he always held a 10000+incoming mining balance on just that pool alone, then i discovered much the same on his other pools and decided to just leave ALL his pools. If i remember right , he would get like 3 or 4 mining pays but only paying out 2 or 3 each time thus keeping the 10000 + balance--i do know some pool owners keep a reserve balance for emergencies and in event of long winded rounds but he wouldnt even admit or acknowledge that, so like i said i left.

if interested , i think i can still pull up old posts where i even posted my findings here to see if anyone knew what was going on.
so if anyone wants some more details on this PM me and will be more then happy to provide.
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I dont understand stakes... I didnot encrypt wallet. Should I run wallet 24/7 to get the stakes or I can close it and run it every say 15 days to see results?

And Mullick I also get checkpoint too old error and wallet out of sync now...


If you didn't encrypt the wallet it should allow POS minting now. It's entirely a personal decision on keeping the wallet open or just opening every 15 days. I keep mine open and produce multiple POS blocks everyday. POS ensures the network continues in the future; but, I think it also helps support the network now.

Everyone gets the checkpoint error when a new checkpoint is due. I'm sure Mullick will have a new checkpoint release soon. It is of no significant concern and maybe less so now that the forking issues have been eliminated.



Thanks for explanation! Can you give me an estimate of incoming stakes for keeping about 10k caps in open wallet on daily/monthly bases?

It's currently 5 percent based on the thread below. I think if more people learn about how fair the release of CAPS was that interest in the coin will grow.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-bottlecaps-foundation-30-day-user-briefing-and-development-path-261238
legendary
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Hi,

I upgraded servers on my pool http://cap.coinmine.pl - your are welcome to mine here!

feeleep
legendary
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I dont understand stakes... I didnot encrypt wallet. Should I run wallet 24/7 to get the stakes or I can close it and run it every say 15 days to see results?

And Mullick I also get checkpoint too old error and wallet out of sync now...


If you didn't encrypt the wallet it should allow POS minting now. It's entirely a personal decision on keeping the wallet open or just opening every 15 days. I keep mine open and produce multiple POS blocks everyday. POS ensures the network continues in the future; but, I think it also helps support the network now.

Everyone gets the checkpoint error when a new checkpoint is due. I'm sure Mullick will have a new checkpoint release soon. It is of no significant concern and maybe less so now that the forking issues have been eliminated.



Thanks for explanation! Can you give me an estimate of incoming stakes for keeping about 10k caps in open wallet on daily/monthly bases?
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Anyone else having "missing payments" at Vern's pool (Bottlecapspool.com)? Last couple days I have noticed dozens of random "confirmed" blocks for which payments are missing. I know two others who are having same issue. Just curious if anyone else here is using that pool and missing payments?
I have messaged Vern and he is looking into it I believe

I have a lot of blocks for which the reward column is blank... Even for blocks for which I'm the finder. This isn't a new issue though and is one of the reasons I stopped mining there previously. I didn't realize the pool was back up so I decided to test it out again. My rewards were are about 20% under the estimated amount, but I don't know if those blank amounts are actually paid out or not. Please post when you know something more.

I too had seen this in past but also had times where I went days with every block being paid...but now, this time around (and only on Caps pool at moment that I'm talking about) there are MANY more missing payment spots..I did the math and every coin was accounted for with the spots showing payments thus meaning all those empty confirmed blocks are *missing* payments and for me personally its gone as high as 40% at times! Caps basically has a 99% efficiency with few stales and orphans so payments are typically very close to estimates (based on changing and current difficulties) but this pool is waaay off and only due to missing or withheld payments and other pools are not doing this. This is definitely a pool issue and not a coin or client issue. His pool IS getting the blocks it is showing and they DO CONFIRM UP to and past 120 blocks meaning his pool IS getting 10 coins for ALL  those blocks but then for many of them payments don't get split up amongst its miners properly...at this moment I can only speak for myself and two others but does appear to be widespread amongst many if not all miners in that pool..

Did you report this to the pool owner?

I most certainly did..a few times... at last it was left at "I don't know what is causing it and I'm looking into it"..that was about 5-6 days ago..have asked for update yesterday but nothing back since..


I have mined 3 or 4 of his pools and they all do it.  I've sent email to the support email on the pools and never received any response.

I'll mine solo and take my chances before using any of Vern's pools.
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BattleCaps 1.5 Wallet

WARNING: Checkpoint is too old. Redownload Blockchain. If warning persist contact the Development Team.

I deleted everything but wallet.dat and bottlecaps.conf and same message after downloading it again.
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