Bottlecaps 2.1 UPDATE REQUIRED - HARDFORK JULY 4 2014 to 200% Annual PoS - page 85.

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"Raven's Cry"

Quote from: ElTomeko27 on November 01, 2014, 01:03:28 PM

There is something wrong with Caps explorer http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/. It is showing wrong amount on my adr.
Adr. F3Yjy8peDRasTP1TCBWKen6hsNcJdhr6xP. It is showing 31652 Caps while I have 28040 in my wallet Huh

You're going to buy the rest but you just dont know it yet?? Wink

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There is something wrong with Caps explorer http://cap.cryptocoinexplorer.com/. It is showing wrong amount on my adr.
Adr. F3Yjy8peDRasTP1TCBWKen6hsNcJdhr6xP. It is showing 31652 Caps while I have 28040 in my wallet Huh

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No argument at all just a different point of view. We are of one mind on the wallet - I'd love to see function and form added to the wallet. Font Awesome is Open source scalable vector graphics - color can be manipulated by code - no 'hard' images to modify and icons can match any color theme. I LOVE the wallet! My favorite feature is that it's changed my behavior patterns; I dont check on the coin markets anymore - I dont even care what the CAP/BTC exchange rate is - High PoS has given me freedom to stick a reminder on my calendar to unlock my wallet for stake dates, multiply coin and then go back to my non-crypto life with even more BottleCaps, (Thank you Tranz!). I'm going to try the raspberry pi wallet next to further reduce wallet interaction.

I apologize that my points of contention and descriptive language came across as confrontational. The year BottleCaps launched venture capital put $92 Million into BTC. This year VC has invested over $268 Million into Bitcoin. I've read every post in this thread and understand that the 'fallout' association is strong but I am not willing to believe that someone entering the Cryptocurrency space will seek out a 'coin' that reminds them of a steam game. I also do not believe that someone spending fiat on BTC will in turn seek out some nostalgic representation of the 50's - those present in the 50's are collecting social security and are into or entering retirement age. If my stockbroker or bank promised me a guaranteed 200% growth I would question the legality of it but here we have it in Proof of Stake. Independent of CAP/BTC value I see BottleCaps as a growth opportunity. I can build out hundreds of hypotheticals about the future of BTC and cryptocurrency in general but widespread public adoption is out on the horizon. The VC money is coming in, I see hints of general cultural awareness, and I continue to patiently increase my Coin.

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Quote from: ReydeApio on October 31, 2014, 12:54:13 PM

Quote from: Hilux74 on October 31, 2014, 12:01:56 PM

...For example I see Bottlecaps being attractive to two very distinct groups.

1) There are those from the Fallout crowd that like the dark post apocalyptic look and feel (myself)
2) There are those that like the retro 50's funtime non threatening edge to a high tech cryptocurrency (still think this is the most marketable to people outside crypto and gaming).

I'm in neither of those groups.

I see BottleCaps being attractive because they're an embodiment of Einstein's quote:
Quote
“Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it ... he who doesn't ... pays it.”
I believe the reasons people venture risk with Altcoins is to multiply BTC without mining it:
Quote
People don't want to buy a quarter-inch drill, they want a quarter- inch hole.
Most Altcoins try to sell the quarter-inch drill - BTC, or valuation in BTC, is the quarter inch hole most seek.
I understand the potential of BottleCaps brand identity. Simply naming a crypto-thing, 'Ephemera Coin' or some equally magical name, connects to the Broca’s area and Wernicke’s area of the brain. BottleCaps are REAL and sensory data attached to real objects, (sight, sound, touch) allows for a much deeper connection outside of the areas associated with the written word.

I don't play video games, I'm not a callow luddite, and I'm invested to the tune of 350k CAP.

So default gray for you? Grin

Not sure what your overall point is. Are you arguing against themes? I said that the Bottlecaps framework has appeal to multiple groups. I gave examples of two that came to my mind, I did not say those were the ONLY groups.

Btw a person attracted to a nostalgic 50's theme, when people actually collected Bottlecaps, is not a luddite. A luddite is someone that makes a point of rejecting labour saving machinery or technology. A luddite wouldn't care how Bottlecaps was branded or if it had themes or not because they most likely do not have a computer.

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Quote from: Hilux74 on October 31, 2014, 12:01:56 PM

...For example I see Bottlecaps being attractive to two very distinct groups.

1) There are those from the Fallout crowd that like the dark post apocalyptic look and feel (myself)
2) There are those that like the retro 50's funtime non threatening edge to a high tech cryptocurrency (still think this is the most marketable to people outside crypto and gaming).

I'm in neither of those groups.

I see BottleCaps being attractive because they're an embodiment of Einstein's quote:
Quote
“Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it ... he who doesn't ... pays it.”
I believe the reasons people venture risk with Altcoins is to multiply BTC without mining it:
Quote
People don't want to buy a quarter-inch drill, they want a quarter- inch hole.
Most Altcoins try to sell the quarter-inch drill - BTC, or valuation in BTC, is the quarter inch hole most seek.
I understand the potential of BottleCaps brand identity. Simply naming a crypto-thing, 'Ephemera Coin' or some equally magical name, connects to the Broca’s area and Wernicke’s area of the brain. BottleCaps are REAL and sensory data attached to real objects, (sight, sound, touch) allows for a much deeper connection outside of the areas associated with the written word.

I don't play video games, I'm not a callow luddite, and I'm invested to the tune of 350k CAP.

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Quote from: Hilux74 on October 31, 2014, 12:01:56 PM

HYP is getting a lot of attention these days. Considering much of what makes HYP work well is that it is based off so much of Tranz's excellent work with HBN and CAPs. I think it would be great if now we could borrow from HYP and add their THEME/SKIN ability for the wallet to CAPs.

Yes HYP has had a close relationship with Tranz, and his work. The fork from TRK->HYP was inspired by the BottleCaps fork. Also s4c/autosavings has been used from Tranz's code. Most of the rest is unique development that me and a few others have put hard time and work into. And of course you all can borrow the ability to use our theme code. ZeeWolf (who made this code) tried to commit it cleanly so that others could use. And I do think it would be best if you did not use our actual themes though, but design CAP specific ones

https://github.com/presstab/HyperStake/commit/ef9684204391ee0aab89e061fa2d7bad3373af8e

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HYP is getting a lot of attention these days. Considering much of what makes HYP work well is that it is based off so much of Tranz's excellent work with HBN and CAPs. I think it would be great if now we could borrow from HYP and add their THEME/SKIN ability for the wallet to CAPs.

I think this would be awesome for CAPs and would allow some great creativity. I think the Bottlecaps framework can capture and cater to the tastes of multiple groups. Having themes allows this in a way that deciding on a fixed set of icons and graphics doesn't. For example I see Bottlecaps being attractive to two very distinct groups.

1) There are those from the Fallout crowd that like the dark post apocalyptic look and feel (myself)
2) There are those that like the retro 50's funtime non threatening edge to a high tech cryptocurrency (still think this is the most marketable to people outside crypto and gaming).

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Quote from: rgm108 on October 31, 2014, 08:18:53 AM

Quote from: lifeforcepools on October 31, 2014, 08:10:40 AM

could some please post their peerinfo - the advertised nodes are not working

thanks

I have these 3 and never any problems syncing:

addnode=50.137.233.14
addnode=69.10.44.115
addnode=192.64.86.238

then you might want to delete your peers which you are now most assuredly using and try resynching again because they do not work.

regardless - someone else had posted their peerinfo and that worked for me which is what I needed since the three nodes posted do not work any longer.

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Quote from: lifeforcepools on October 31, 2014, 08:10:40 AM

could some please post their peerinfo - the advertised nodes are not working

thanks

I have these 3 and never any problems syncing:

addnode=50.137.233.14
addnode=69.10.44.115
addnode=192.64.86.238

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could some please post their peerinfo - the advertised nodes are not working

thanks

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Instead of debating the primary brand identity icon lets focus on the rest of the wallet, how about Font Awesome?
http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/cheatsheet/

I matched up some suggestions.

Code:


bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / add.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/plus/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/plus-square/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / address-book.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/book/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / bitcoin_testnet.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/btc/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / blexp.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/cube/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/cubes/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / clock1-5.png
Clock in foreground
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/clock-o/
Shape in background with color variations (red-orange-yella-green)
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/circle
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/square

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / configure.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/cogs/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / connect0_16.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/toggle-off/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / connect1-4_16.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/signal/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / debugwindow.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/terminal/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / edit.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/pencil-square-o/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / editcopy.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/files-o/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / editpaste.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/clipboard/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / export.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/upload/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / export2.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/external-link-square

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / filesave.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/floppy-o/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / history.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/history/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/newspaper-o/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/archive
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/hdd-o
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/tasks
	
bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / import.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/download/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / info.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/info-circle/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / inspect.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/binoculars/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/search/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / key.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/key/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / lock_closed.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/lock/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / lock_open.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/unlock-alt/
	
bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / notsynced.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/meh-o
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/times-circle/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/exclamation-triangle
	
bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / overview.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/tachometer/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/university
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/desktop

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / qrcode.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/qrcode/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / quit.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/times
	
bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / receive.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/cloud-download/
	Receive (flip on Vertical axis)
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/share-square/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/sign-in

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / remove.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/minus/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/minus-square
	
bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / repair.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/wrench/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / send.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/cloud-upload/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/paper-plane/	
	Send (flip on Vert access for Recieve)
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/share-square/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/sign-out/
	
bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / staking_off.png
bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / staking_on.png
	Foreground: 
		http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/rocket/
		http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/line-chart

	Background: color shape (Red - off Green/blue - on) 
		http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/circle/
		http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/square/
		
bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / synced.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/globe/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/check-square-o/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/check-circle/
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/check-square
	
bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / transaction0.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/question/
	
bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / transaction2.png
		http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/check/

bottlecaps / src / qt / res / icons / transaction_conflicted.png
	http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/exclamation/

Stacking/coloring:
http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/examples/

I'm not sure if the .SVG format can be used in a wallet but it would make 'skinning' and color modification much simpler.

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Quote from: Tranz on October 23, 2014, 06:08:07 PM

Quote from: PressF1 on October 22, 2014, 11:45:41 AM

Now I come to think of it, I have another:

You mentioned before something to favor large stakeholders, top 20 I believe. To allow them higher split/combine levels. To make it easier for them just to stake away without the need for manual recombining all the time. Something quite valuable if you have a lot of coins that you don't want to see splitting until you end up having many thousands of small separate blocks.

So this would be my idea:

Defining a large stakeholder as any single address which holds >1% of the money supply. By this time it means just about the top 20 but because its related to the money supply, it will grow along as we develop.
Premium: I would suggest a Splitting/Recombining privilege that enables the large stake holders to limit their amount of blocks to an estimate of 500, corresponding with a Splitting/Recombining level of 0,2% of their wallet size.

Example:
Lets say you own 100Kcap on a single address and the money supply is 7000Kcap. In a case like that you would qualify for being a large stake holder (100/7000 = 1,43%).
Now, for being a large stake holder, your split/combine level shifts from a max of 20 to 0,2% of 100K which is 200. A pretty nice advantage I would say! Never more than 500 blocks and less need for manual recombining, serving the consensus function of POS as well.

I am really curious as to what everyone thinks of something like this.

I do plan to add the split/combine threshold to RPC command as well as start up. This will allow some of the additional control you have mentioned. May not make it for 2.3, but shouldn't be much further behind. Perhaps even to the gui later as well.

Exciting. And nothing of any urgency. You put in so much time. A great deal of people owe a great deal to you!

5ick3uffalo

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Quote from: Tranz on October 16, 2014, 04:47:15 PM

Quote from: ReydeApio on October 16, 2014, 12:47:53 AM

Hey Y'all - I've been throwing some icon ideas together on Github:

https://github.com/izzzaya/bottlecaps-iconography

I've included some of the visuals created for @bottlecapsbuzz on the Tweeter.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

_zz^z

I think these are pretty good. The only one I am not a huge fan of is cap_32x.png and cap_32px.png, otherwise I do like them.

@5ick3uffalo

Can you be more specific? What do you man by classic design?

Hard to explain because english not my first language.

These where kind of flat. A good example would be Blackberry World OS10.2.0 icon Compared the new OS10.3.0 Cheesy

and OS10.3

The old one is more "classic" style, more 3D like, the new style is more "flat"

Sorry for crappy english, wished i could explain better.

But i think the Blackberry OS example made it clear Cheesy

Tranz

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May the force bit with you.

Quote from: PressF1 on October 22, 2014, 11:45:41 AM

Now I come to think of it, I have another:

You mentioned before something to favor large stakeholders, top 20 I believe. To allow them higher split/combine levels. To make it easier for them just to stake away without the need for manual recombining all the time. Something quite valuable if you have a lot of coins that you don't want to see splitting until you end up having many thousands of small separate blocks.

So this would be my idea:

Defining a large stakeholder as any single address which holds >1% of the money supply. By this time it means just about the top 20 but because its related to the money supply, it will grow along as we develop.
Premium: I would suggest a Splitting/Recombining privilege that enables the large stake holders to limit their amount of blocks to an estimate of 500, corresponding with a Splitting/Recombining level of 0,2% of their wallet size.

Example:
Lets say you own 100Kcap on a single address and the money supply is 7000Kcap. In a case like that you would qualify for being a large stake holder (100/7000 = 1,43%).
Now, for being a large stake holder, your split/combine level shifts from a max of 20 to 0,2% of 100K which is 200. A pretty nice advantage I would say! Never more than 500 blocks and less need for manual recombining, serving the consensus function of POS as well.

I am really curious as to what everyone thinks of something like this.

I do plan to add the split/combine threshold to RPC command as well as start up. This will allow some of the additional control you have mentioned. May not make it for 2.3, but shouldn't be much further behind. Perhaps even to the gui later as well.

Tranz

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May the force bit with you.

Quote from: ReydeApio on October 22, 2014, 02:01:32 PM

Quote from: Tranz on October 21, 2014, 08:39:26 PM

What updates do we want to see for 2.3?

I have had a request for Autosavings updates, including custom send address. I can do that.

I was planning on doing the windows safe shutdown, and the combine/split threshold updates, to help keep blocks more manageable.

Obviously the new icons.

Anything else?

Estimated stake - ala HYP
Max stake popup reminders - Hit 1k mark, unencrypt & stake
Percentage of total coin created in overview
Percentage of Variation in top wallets 15/30day in overview

Other wallets have trading information some saving/staking related information is more relevant to our needs.

As an aside is anyone else holding off staking to try and get the block with 7 Millionth coin or is it just me?

Good stuff.

I can definitely add some of the additional coin control stuff.

Your 2nd point defeats the purpose of using stake to move the block chain. If this is something a user wants, I'm afraid they will have to do this themselves.

What do you mean percentage of coins created? The network money supply is already available quickly by clicking the staking or block icon or using the network menu.

The 4th point requires watch only be added to the code. This is not trivial, perhaps in the future, but not for 2.3.

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Quote from: ReydeApio on October 22, 2014, 02:01:32 PM

Quote from: Tranz on October 21, 2014, 08:39:26 PM

What updates do we want to see for 2.3?

I have had a request for Autosavings updates, including custom send address. I can do that.

I was planning on doing the windows safe shutdown, and the combine/split threshold updates, to help keep blocks more manageable.

Obviously the new icons.

Anything else?

Estimated stake - ala HYP
Max stake popup reminders - Hit 1k mark, unencrypt & stake
Percentage of total coin created in overview
Percentage of Variation in top wallets 15/30day in overview

Other wallets have trading information some saving/staking related information is more relevant to our needs.

As an aside is anyone else holding off staking to try and get the block with 7 Millionth coin or is it just me?

Hmm, no I´m staking ,Not understand, what´s the advantage to get the block with the 7th Million Coin?

With going fast into the top30 balances with my little wallet (CAP very cheap at 3000sat right now, lot´s of potential imaho ) how should i split my blocks for best staking performance?

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Quote from: Tranz on October 21, 2014, 08:39:26 PM

What updates do we want to see for 2.3?

I have had a request for Autosavings updates, including custom send address. I can do that.

I was planning on doing the windows safe shutdown, and the combine/split threshold updates, to help keep blocks more manageable.

Obviously the new icons.

Anything else?

Estimated stake - ala HYP
Max stake popup reminders - Hit 1k mark, unencrypt & stake
Percentage of total coin created in overview
Percentage of Variation in top wallets 15/30day in overview

Other wallets have trading information some saving/staking related information is more relevant to our needs.

As an aside is anyone else holding off staking to try and get the block with 7 Millionth coin or is it just me?

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Now I come to think of it, I have another:

You mentioned before something to favor large stakeholders, top 20 I believe. To allow them higher split/combine levels. To make it easier for them just to stake away without the need for manual recombining all the time. Something quite valuable if you have a lot of coins that you don't want to see splitting until you end up having many thousands of small separate blocks.

So this would be my idea:

Defining a large stakeholder as any single address which holds >1% of the money supply. By this time it means just about the top 20 but because its related to the money supply, it will grow along as we develop.
Premium: I would suggest a Splitting/Recombining privilege that enables the large stake holders to limit their amount of blocks to an estimate of 500, corresponding with a Splitting/Recombining level of 0,2% of their wallet size.

Example:
Lets say you own 100Kcap on a single address and the money supply is 7000Kcap. In a case like that you would qualify for being a large stake holder (100/7000 = 1,43%).
Now, for being a large stake holder, your split/combine level shifts from a max of 20 to 0,2% of 100K which is 200. A pretty nice advantage I would say! Never more than 500 blocks and less need for manual recombining, serving the consensus function of POS as well.

I am really curious as to what everyone thinks of something like this.

PressF1

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For me, just some new icons serve the beauty-department well enough. I guess that makes me a member of the functionality team. I'd say the suggested updates are IMO great improvements and I am already very happy with them.

Maybe a graph of the pos-diff like the one at the HBN site?
I regularly check that one out and graphs always look cool!

Not important though, just fun.

Tranz

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Quote from: Hilux74 on October 21, 2014, 11:09:37 PM

Quote from: Tranz on October 21, 2014, 10:47:15 PM

Quote from: Jamesco on October 21, 2014, 10:41:15 PM

Would it be possible to code in customizable skins? Something like Hyp's wallet skin selector? That way we could potentially get some new visual styles working in the wallet

Possible, yes. It is a fair amount of work. Plus it requires some skin makers, not my specialty. I'm sure I can get the core of it going.

Beauty over Function?

GI Joe cartoons from the 80s say knowing is 1/2 the battle
First Choice Haircutters says looking good is 1/2 the battle

Conclusion > Need beauty and function to win the battle
Wink

Touché!

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