Topic: Bought fake Insluin, hope someone has some info on the guy. (Read 8640 times)

There are a few programs out here for the uninsured. One of them is ORSA which is where your bills for hospitalization, rx, and any other medical related cost charged to the state is covered for 365 days. This could me you rack up a year worht of bills, or you start 365 days of treatment. Ect

But as to things like live saving meds. While at the ER, I found out that they had changed prices by alot. If I didnt have the cash on hand, I would have to go without. US health system blows. Aussie one not to bad from my experiance.

you normally have to pay for your insulin? you have no health insurance or its not covered? what about a possible cancer treatment?
that might sound like stupid questions but here in germany its still kind of all-inclusive and people not getting necessary medical treatment always feels a bit surprising/odd/outlandish/bizarre (cant find a good word here, maybe you get the meaning).
i dont know how much a cancer treatment costs, but i dont think most people here would be prepared for that kind of misfortune.

Sorry to hear this shakaru. That's sad. There was some good advice in this thread.

Thats one theroy I have. One thing was he told me to use them in order from the one that will expire the soonest to the last, so he could have made the first one real and the rest h20. Also, insulin really doesnt require that much refridgeration. Most people will use a full vial before it would go bad in the open air.

It might not have been "fake" per se, but rather, insulin that was left in the sun or otherwise improperly stored. Still quite serious, but how serious it is depends on whether he knew it was spoiled or not, which is hard to prove. (This sort of thing is why you need a license to sell prescription drugs, by the way.)

LMFAO, that was a good one. And that wmv file was actually good to inform how to find a legit online pharmacy.

Summary could spoil the suspense of the message at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4-Qyu9KbBo

Let's get the summary. I don't want to actually listen to something.

public service message: http://www.pharmacy.ca.gov/consumers/onlinedrugs.wmv

Firstly, I'm obviously glad you are still alive (OP).

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Thanks for all the support. I appreciate it. I will know more about what is going on with my health on the 11th when my appoitment is scheduled. The staff at the hopsital and I go back a very long time so I know I am in good hands. I also know that the person they called down to tell me wouldnt lie to me and told me not to worry, so I am not. Also it helps that I have a good family friend who is undergoing treatment for luekemiya and with how well he is doing, thats also a good sign.
I spoke with deslok when I got home about him handling checking my inbox on days that I am not able to as to not affect SDM. Besides that. Im sitting here at home, rum and coke, and some good tv an company. Life is still great.

fuuuuuuck...when it rains, it pours. my thoughts are with you, man.

Sorry to hear that.  Time to take a breather and focus your energy on your own health and well-being.

No, its not related to the insulin. Maybe the high glucose caused some symptoms that I should have payed more attention to, but it looks like I have a form of blood type cancer. I have an apt with a oncologist later this week. This does explain why I my nose has been bleeding daily for a while now. Im not really scared about this, ive had bad health most of my life and it hasnt beat me yet.

He should get the health department, poison control or the police to do this.  Apart from anything else, those vials are evidence and him going off playing Nancy Drew could undermine a proper criminal investigation without especially benefiting him.

His blood-work and follow up should reveal anything he needs to know about immediate potential problems from the fake insulin.

may i suggest you to take your fake insulin to a lab to have it analyzed? if there was something bad in the fake insulin, it would be best to know sooner than later.

Definitely do it. One resource that may be worth contacting is poison control. They should be able to get you in touch with the right people in the health department, and it is a little buffer from the police interaction. It's california, so you'll get bounced around a bunch, but stick with it and someone will know who to talk to.

Glad you're ok. I have done the LA County hospital thing, and it's not fun...15 hours for blood work and an ultrasound, and then a $2000 bill that I paid at the hospital getting sent to collections because those fuckwits applied it to someone else's account...

So, I just got out of the hosptal. I had to go down and get a replacement supply and get checked out from this, but it turns out it was a god send as they found something out during my blood work.

All the vials have the ramper proff lids on. Also, the cost wasnt bad. It was between 10-15 a vail. Thats about co-pay cost. The guy said he was a type 2 diabetic and no longer needed insluin and was trying to just get rid of them for what he payed. Tomorrow after my follow up I need to goto the Sherifs office and file a report.

Pumps are usually filled from standard insulin vials - you draw it up into a syringe and fill the reservoir from that.  While you should technically always check the expiry date and check for evidence of tampering, I don't know any diabetics who actually do that.  Like everything else, people become conditioned to everything being OK and when you've done something thousands of times before without incident, you don't necessarily think to change what has become an automatic ritual if some factor is different.

Whether the tampering would have been apparent depends on how it was done.  The easiest way would have been to remove the insulin via a syringe and replace the contents the same way.  It wouldn't necessarily have been apparent if a fine enough needle was used unless the OP looked hard for puncture marks on the membrane.  If the entire rubber membrane and the cap around it were replaced (fiddly, but definitely not impossible), then there'd be no obvious evidence of tampering.  You might notice that the fake insulin moved differently in the vial than real insulin if you were looking for it, but syringing up insulin becomes a process which people do pretty much on autopilot.

I'm curious about how much of a discount this guy was offering and how he explained obtaining them at such a low cost.  I also want to know what was really in the vials. 

Glad you're okay shakaru!