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Quote from: killerfrost on July 19, 2020, 07:40:49 AM

Success or failure depends entirely on the project. Bounty manager is just a hired employee and helps project management campaign. I personally only evaluate and select bounty according to the quality of the project, I'm not too concerned about the campaign manager.

The bounty manager is also just like us, he just get paid for the work he does for the team, but since he is higher up the food chain, so he does actually gets paid pretty hefty amount of money for the work that has to be done. But there are also demerits in being a bounty manager that he has to check a lot of participants and also this takes a lot of time and sometimes leads to an argument with some people over distribution of stakes.
Bounty managers like the head of social media marketing as they are providing the team with a lot of influencers and also a lot of reach on social media, so if the manager isn't that good then definitely the project is gonna suffer.

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I like what bounty detective team are doing presently, there is no going back once a bounty got introduced by bounty detective because they use escrow, they handle the distribution at their own convenient time, you don't have to worry about not getting paid because all tokens are in bounty detective hand

There are some of their bounty projects they don't have total control, like Basic Finance project they promoted last time, bounty hunters made several complaints against the distribution by the team and Bounty Detective said they can't do anything aside the issue because the team project were the ones in charge of distribution, some hunters completed their KYC and were denied access to their login into their account.

I think that was in the past, I knew about Basic Finance bounty and there is no guarantee payment from bounty detective on basic finance bounty thread, you can easily know which bounty Campaign is escrowed by this bounty manager because it's visible on the bounty threads

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Quote from: arufox on July 19, 2020, 10:11:30 AM

Yes, i agree with you, team managing campaigns themselves is not good because most are not a good project. And there are so many problems especially with distribution, sometimes distributions are too late, distribution pause, and the most serious thing, team doesn't pay bounty hunters. So bounty managers will a solution for this problem.

Quote from: Stanlo on July 19, 2020, 09:32:57 AM

Yes oikos BM is a perfect example of why it's bad to join bounties managed by team themselves, they launch second round of bounty campaign last week and the BM randomly picked bounty hunters leaving too many unapproved and today they decide to left out all junior members, this is an inexperience bounty managing, toying with their own rules and wasting the time of those who joined the project last week

Quote from: oikos on April 25, 2020, 12:22:31 PM

- We reserve the right to adjust the conditions of the bounty campaign at any time

I think you are one of many who is not approved, Oikos signature champaign is limit for 150, so you should stop hoping

Obviously, the manager can change the rules at any time. They just want to be good for their project and fair for everyone. Now I see their update, they have expanded their budget and accepted all previous participants

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what often happens is usually the rules that change in the middle of the bounty in progress. usually becomes mandatory kyc, or backward distribution of tokens. What's worse in my opinion is when at the beginning they (the team) made a large exchange list such as binance, or etherdelta, but in the end it was listed on exchangers with minimal liquidity. it is a disappointing thing in my opinion because it does not match at the beginning, but changes occur when we are already in.

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Yes, i agree with you, team managing campaigns themselves is not good because most are not a good project. And there are so many problems especially with distribution, sometimes distributions are too late, distribution pause, and the most serious thing, team doesn't pay bounty hunters. So bounty managers will a solution for this problem.

Quote from: Stanlo on July 19, 2020, 09:32:57 AM

Yes oikos BM is a perfect example of why it's bad to join bounties managed by team themselves, they launch second round of bounty campaign last week and the BM randomly picked bounty hunters leaving too many unapproved and today they decide to left out all junior members, this is an inexperience bounty managing, toying with their own rules and wasting the time of those who joined the project last week

Quote from: oikos on April 25, 2020, 12:22:31 PM

- We reserve the right to adjust the conditions of the bounty campaign at any time

I think you are one of many who is not approved, Oikos signature champaign is limit for 150, so you should stop hoping

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Quote from: Doranile432 on July 19, 2020, 04:17:59 AM

It's dangerous to promote projects that's been managed by team themselves, they can break their rules themselves, we noticed something like this with first round of Oikos bounty where the manager almost ruin everything, few members almost create a scam accusation about the project before the CEO fixed things himself

Yes oikos BM is a perfect example of why it's bad to join bounties managed by team themselves, they launch second round of bounty campaign last week and the BM randomly picked bounty hunters leaving too many unapproved and today they decide to left out all junior members, this is an inexperience bounty managing, toying with their own rules and wasting the time of those who joined the project last week

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Quote from: viananda2525 on July 19, 2020, 07:47:48 AM

dev team prefer to reallocate bounty manager allocation to another part. and its not wrong if dev team using their human resource to manage bounty campaign and by doing this way they save some money that used to pay Bounty manager. its good money management from dev team , and usually BM from dev team dicipline to give an update .

That's right, they will save a large amount of money to develop the project. Or they can use that money to increase the budget of the bounty, we don't need to be overly concerned with the manager of that campaign. Just care about the quality of the project

reallocating budget very important for team, they will have more money to pay operational cost or maybe for salary core team.using own team for managing bounty campaign could maximize human resource usage and they will have important experienced moderating community that usually in hurry for newest update.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 18, 2020, 11:08:29 AM

Even if the project got bounty manager still they can't force the bounty team to pay the rewards for participants if they are refusing to do.Bounty manager is also need to be an important factor that everyone should consider but don't take it for granted, do your own research on the team as well.

There are some bounty managers who sell their reputation in order the get higher pay day. They even break his/own rules upon by request of core team of bounty he/she is handling so it does make any matter at all. Join in those who you know that are respectable and dedicated to his job in bringing qaulty projects for his/her hunters.

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Quote from: Tomohisa on July 19, 2020, 08:13:21 AM

I noticed that bounty projects that managed by the team themselves usually have a lower quality compared to bounty managers for hire. Sometimes, it was so bad to the point they don't even know the rules of the place need to advertising (for example, bitcointalk).

I think otherwise, there are many successful bounty without the need for a professional manager. And their rules are the same at this forum, just go through a few bounty then I believe they will get the best rules

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Quote from: viananda2525 on July 19, 2020, 07:47:48 AM

dev team prefer to reallocate bounty manager allocation to another part. and its not wrong if dev team using their human resource to manage bounty campaign and by doing this way they save some money that used to pay Bounty manager. its good money management from dev team , and usually BM from dev team dicipline to give an update .

That's right, they will save a large amount of money to develop the project. Or they can use that money to increase the budget of the bounty, we don't need to be overly concerned with the manager of that campaign. Just care about the quality of the project

That depends on whether the project has its human resource that wanna tries to manage the campaign or not. i have seen some projects were using the manager or rent the bounty manager to do this job when the team was thinking if they need proffesional manager

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I noticed that bounty projects that managed by the team themselves usually have a lower quality compared to bounty managers for hire. Sometimes, it was so bad to the point they don't even know the rules of the place need to advertising (for example, bitcointalk).

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I agree. I think it is still good that bounty will be managed by an external manager to give some assurance to participants. If the bounty manager is part of the team, I observed that campaigns normally gets ill-managed. This is why its good to have outside bounty managers, their experience provide assurance that the campaign will run smoothly.

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dev team prefer to reallocate bounty manager allocation to another part. and its not wrong if dev team using their human resource to manage bounty campaign and by doing this way they save some money that used to pay Bounty manager. its good money management from dev team , and usually BM from dev team dicipline to give an update .

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Team still have the final say whether handling the bounty themselves or through Bounty manager, this one of the reason bounty managers don't just accept to work with anyhow team, they first do their findings and be sure the team they are working will be honest with theirs words.

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Success or failure depends entirely on the project. Bounty manager is just a hired employee and helps project management campaign. I personally only evaluate and select bounty according to the quality of the project, I'm not too concerned about the campaign manager.

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even if with another bounty manager, that can still happen as long as the team holds the coin. such a thing will not happen when the team uses escrow to store coins for bounty hunters. Well, it's just that experienced bounty managers are more trusted than their own team who become bounty hunters.

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You cant force a new project not to handle their own campaign. Some team wanted to do their own and not hired external managers to save fees and also to control the budget and plan for distribution. Only few projects doing this, but sometime we can see some that turns out to be good. But I prefer a reputable manager that handle it. My signature campaign is handled by own team, but they are very professional and works like experienced campaign manager. It takes time to be efficient on doing management its just pure honesty and dedication.

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Let me break it down

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1. They have all the freedom of doing any how with your rewards

Most of the bounty campaigns have stipulated that they can change the rules anytime regardless on whose handling the campaign independent or part of their team

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2. They can change certain rules that aren't reasonable, just because it's their project and they are handling the distribution they are free to do some bad things

Yes they can do that but there will be pressure coming from bounty hunters we have the scam section and the altcoin section to prove that

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3. Bounty Managers are very very important, you can get them nailed for not facing the team to force them to do distribution but you can't fight the team yourself

I've seen so many projects doing that and it's not only the bounty hunters they are hurting but their reputation as well the recent one was Oikos they are forced to give in to the request of bounty hunters because they have an IEO to protect.

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Quote from: husencoe on July 19, 2020, 04:53:39 AM

not everything is like that, there are also paid managers who manage their own campaigns to be trusted, but we analyze all of them first if the rules are too complicated we better find other gift projects that are easy and trustworthy.

Not all bounties can be successful, it all depends on the project, it is not the bounty manager, the bounty manager only manages the marketing, if there are many bounty hunters who blame the bounty manager, it is clearly wrong.

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There is such a thing, I often saw it by myself, but unfortunately we can’t do anything about it, because we decide whether to participate in bounty companies or not, therefore, we need to make our own choices so we will not regret in our choice, so think over your decisions several times to choose the right one.

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