Topic: [BOUNTY] 185+ BTC - Open Transactions Client (for Grandmas) - page 2. (Read 12796 times)

Is there any proof that this bounty is still open?

Both donation addresses are empty and OP wasn't online since October 2012.

Any progress?

Yes sir, bounty still open on Rugatu

http://www.rugatu.com/questions/3691/open-transactions-client-for-grandmas

Is anyone working on this at the moment? Is the bounty still open?

Devcoin pledges 8 generation shares for the Grandma Open Transaction Client. The value of the generation shares vary, at the time of this writing they are worth about 7.2 bitcoins each:
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing#generation_share

so 8 shares is about 58 bitcoins. If the devcoin market capitalization rises, the number of generation shares pledged might rise, but it will never be more than 1% of the capitalization:
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_bounty#project_types

This looks like a needed project. I'd be willing to put in some bitcoins at some point in the not so distant future.

I'm also going to support this project with 10 Bitcoins.

Are you purposely trolling this thread? What da2ce7 has to do with obsi's request (OP) apart from pledging "some coins"? Btw, I can't find the post where he pledged, only some of them where he states working on something.

@Rugatu
da2ce7 paid his bounties and is around 20+ months longer than you (where I stand I see him around longer than you)
he is as well long term O-T project member.
your service is not related to any of them but is attempting to collect bounty for the project.
we will see.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mirc-tor-script-that-works-documentation-more-total-30-btc-2602
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/da2ce7-bounty-outsorceing-3154

Guess he didn't read the OP thoroughly, I will comment that for you. Btw you can login with your google, fb or twitter account, there's no need to create a new one.

OP is about open source.

I don't want to create an account to comment:
(Emphasis mine)

We're sorry if you got that impression, the funds are really collected for the same purpose on both addresses, but as you already seen, Rugatu promotes it's own escrow wallet of the bounty so the creator of this software can be sure he will get his reward.

I don't know for how much time you've been a member of the Bitcoin community but you probably already know that most bounties never get paid at all, so Rugatu was created exactly with this in mind and ease the whole IP work and contract honoring process, between pseudo-anonymous participants. Received funds are shown publicly, and they can be seen in the bitcoin blockchain at the same time.

At this moment Rugatu is one of a kind escrow service for intelectual work, and is only made possible by the bitcoin's unique properties.

@Rugatu & all potential donors to this bounty, I don't like to practices of rugatu.com
while the OP in this server promotes donation address 1JbgqTVjfrapGQCCup3eZBD69zshoSouKU
 user id 58626 (screen name Rugatu) changed it in 'his' site to something else while keeping 95+ % of the OP unchanged - invoking the impression of being collecting funds towards the same goal.
the changed address is also properly labelled in his post but it's imo not best practice and while I understand the 'need' to track sources of pledges, it seems to be done without the consent of OP author.

Updates from Rugatu:

S0lll0s is asking if this should be open or closed source.

http://www.rugatu.com/questions/3691/open-transactions-client-for-grandmas/4488

I'm not too familiar with voucher safe, but this probably means that users have to download spark browser plugin http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/spark/ to allow XMPP communication between the client and issuer / publisher server.

Voucher safe doesn't seem very safe, it warns that browsers plugin are needed, which probably means it tries to use some plugin that was deliberately removed due to known security problems. (Flash or java or something like that.)

-MarkM-

I second that and if done that way I pledge another 10 BTC. A modular architecture would allow users to select what financial instruments / functions (demo-ed on the MoneyChanger) they would like to use and select them during installation phase or install / uninstall modules later. The GUI must be as simple as possible with few big buttons geared towards younger generations instead as a target group. I'm also skeptical that the average nowadays grandma will ever use this product. OT is way ahead of its time! First bitcoin must dismantle current monetary monopoly and inflict changes on monetary regulation and legal frameworks.

IMHO http://www.voucher-safe.com/ is much better.

> ... i wonder if it could be codified.

My point was "less features" would be probably an option. When I first saw the sheer number of tabs I was like wtf.
grandma can probably safely touch any of the different corners of the screen, this leaves 3 features/options and back/cancel button.
when focus is in a functional screen, we still have only 3 corners (see back/cancel button should remain where it is) to work with.
maybe 5 elements if we assume grandma can safely touch/distinguish 6 elements on the screen.
like choose face (whom to send teh money), maybe change type of tx (bitcoin, silver IOU, other ...) and type/choose amount.
(if gui has 6 elements, then also "take/consult notes" & "wealth overview") ...

I like multibit's take on this, 3 fixed tabs in the app and all others can be closed (if you open them).
thus you can have the client as complex as you wish (read open tab for everything) or boil it down to basic 3.
what is "all that grandma needs"?
- make 'em feel my generosity - send stuff
- who is in my address book (view/add/probably should not edit - could corrupt vital tx IDs)
- what's in here (list of assets - what can I spend / liabilities - p.ex. memos about bills due this month, year ...)
- add/remove stuff to/from screen (show/hide options/features)
- cancel/back/home
- tutorial / help / training mode (I'd like to allow user to play with the app without consequences, demo mode, maybe change the background, show in the banner if this is the real or training session, let her explore the new mighty wallet)

yes, few big buttons

Interesting approach, sounds promising ... i wonder if it could be codified. E.g. using an adaptive learning algorithm that monitors how proficient the user is at using the current menu system then adds in menu items and complexity as the user learns ... ? Begin of course with an incredibly simple interface to do something very basic but desirable ... e.g. "send grandsons moar money", picture of grandson, pop-up numeric digits pad to enter amount, big green send button.