Topic: Bounty Cleanup & Alt Detection Service (Read 599 times)

Bump. We are open for business! My scope of tools has gotten larger since the last time I thought about this thread.

As an example of the service I want to provide, this is the type of campaign that could benefit greatly from it:

[Bounty] TonTogether | 🚀 10M Tokens 🚀 100M Tokens on TonUP Launchpool

Among the signature campaign rules:

 - 1 Bitcointalk account per person
 - Do not use AI tools like Chat GPT

The first participant on the spreadsheet, romero121, has already been linked to 2 other participants, Vaskiy & KennyR.


Here's another example of 2 alts being in this campaign: slashz9 and huu78:



Also in the campaign is a 3rd alt, cryptoknightt, although the connection is less direct (they have shared the same Binance deposit address on multiple occasions):

cryptoknightt address


Several other participants in the campaign have already been caught using ChatGPT to write their posts for them in the past, including:

cryptodude
jasonjm
itscrafty
MIner1448 (actively using AI)
luffygroove (actively using AI)

Its highly likely there are other sets of alts participating in the campaign, and other members using AI as well, but this is as far as I'm going for the purpose of this demo.

So in all, I would have saved this campaign at least 22.75 / 2 = 11.375 stakes just in the first week, based solely on the results provided above.

(my full fee would have been the other half of the 22.75 stakes)

Great to see that you have already used the service and at the same time you have recommended him (Nutildah). He is a very professional and cooperative person which I have seen for several years.

As discussed, nutildah has checked my sig campaign participants. He is such serious in his work! I recommend anyone to use his service when necessary.

This would be taken from bounty participants that are found to be breaking the rules of the campaign. So I would get 50% of their payment and the bounty manager saves the other half. Thanks for your question.

I am sorry for the late post. I should have posted it several weeks ago. Welcome to the service. It is almost a unique service though many users trying to find out alt account but they are not working as a service provider. I am at the point of a bounty campaign. You are trying to take the half payment of the bounty participant. It is for those who are not eligible or all of the participants? If it is for all the participants then I think the fees are high. But if only the not eligible participants then it is okay.

Just as the issue of alt account creation can never be totally eradicated here on this forum, creating this service is indeed one of the best solution ever made to cub this menace, as it will over fairness to effective campaign participation here on this forum, which is one thing we will all be happy about as alt cheaters are totally excommunicated off this forum. So on that note, I wish you the best Sir, as you carry out your work to the best of your ability.

No, that's OK, thanks. They can ask me questions outside of this thread. This is reserved for campaign managers who want to save money/tokens and/or improve the quality of their campaign.


I decided that I will only be publishing the connections if it results in a red tag. If the evidence isn't substantial enough and the connected accounts aren't in the same campaign, I will just send a PM to the manager to let them know my findings.

Should I send rookie cheater busters to you if I see them? Maybe you could expand the business by taking in some extra help if things are complicated and maybe you could even give them something, I'm saying this because just now I saw a thread on rep board. So wanted to ask if we should direct them your way or not?

I have finished going through all the participants in both bounties. It took me longer than expected as I using this as practice to hammer out my methodology.

While there are at least 3 participants that have (or had) alt accounts, they are not in the same campaigns together.

Two of these accounts likely deserve negative tags. I am going through them thoroughly and will start a thread for them in Reputation if its warranted. Will update this post with links to the threads when its finished.

Let me give you my personal opinion. Managing bounty campaigns and checking alts/bounty cheaters are two different jobs, and both are difficult. Campaign managers are required to have organizational skills, manage the running of the campaign, communicate with clients, arrange payments, validate eligible posts, and so on. Some campaign managers may not have time to double-check their participants, or there are some things they missed. So this service makes a lot of sense to me. This does not mean that this service will be 100% able to clear the bounty. But this is like installing additional safeguards to control the quality of the bounty according to the campaign manager's standards.

Thanks for being my first customer. I will get back to you within 24 hours or so.


Linking members with just BTC transactions isn't necessarily sufficient. It depends on a few things regarding the nature of the transactions.


I would, actually. 50% of whatever token the cheating bounty hunter would have received.

Isn't it the job of the bounty manager to check the validity of the entries ? Why not just run the bounty campaign yourself then, as you're doing most of the heavy lifting.

Things are simple here.
If it is a trash bounty campaign, of course, the manager is not even expected to pay for checking the participants. I assume that the OP won't even accept payment in some trash token. Simply, you cannot fix a bad project, no matter how much effort and money you invest in a marketing campaign.
On the other side, if it is a campaign or a legal project, and if it is run by a manager who cares about a good result from the campaign he runs, I believe that he will willingly pay for the analysis of the work of bounty hunters.

This BTC trans thing happens largely on the gambling board and mostly on our EPL and BSFL threads. I place 2-3 side bets per month, and some of our members place more.

How do you hope to identify the honest members from the cheats using solely BTC transactions?

Ok.
Coins.game spreadsheet- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yy6HjijOFKbHS2DY1yW2vYD9eSVJLaxHj_3jNLKAApk/edit?usp=sharing
Shuffle.com spreadsheet- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zRKIP6q1s59wdaACWvu-ERC-5OwCI8j2sK1iCCoSXBI/edit?usp=sharing

These are fair questions:


This option is meant to be for bounties -- when I was crafting the OP I mistakenly left "signature campaign" there, although I also wrote "This option is reserved for bounties that are at least halfway concluded." Because its my error, I will be happy to do your sig campaigns under Option 1, and if I don't find anyone breaking the campaign rules then there is no charge.

To clarify: for bounties, it would be 50% of their payment earned up to that point in the campaign. So if its an 8-week bounty and 4 weeks have gone by, it would be 50% x 4 weeks of earnings; granted tokens aren't being distributed until the end of the campaign.


The evidence will be presented in such a way that a majority of forum members looking at it would come to the same conclusion. If reasonable objections are voiced, I will remove the user's negative tag. I have done this in the past in my Bounty Cheaters & Ban Evaders thread. Sometimes with bounty hunters, someone is legitimately buying tokens from several individual, non-connected campaign members. Other times its clear one person is collecting tokens into one address from several different accounts. This issue doesn't occur on the sig campaign/BTC side of things.


If its a bounty campaign they'd more likely take Option #1, and if they don't want to needlessly pay out tokens to rulebreakers, helping their client in the process, perhaps they'll be interested.

(updating OP fee rate options to reflect the above)

You're good at what you do but many people are already doing this for free. Are you certain that managers would pay more than $25 to police a worthless shitcoin campaign?

1) Bounty/signature campaign investigation:
I would like you to go through my signature campaign participants.
a. If you find rule breakers, you will get 50% of the weekly payment. What if you don't find any?
b. It is possible that with the evidence, you may find someone is alt of another user while some other community member may not be convinced. What will be the solution here?

Seems you are enjoying your work. Great.

Who is this service for?

Bounty and signature campaign managers only.


What is this service?

While the terms for several bounty & signature campaigns contain a clause that states alt accounts are not allowed to participate and/or cheaters will be disqualified w/o payment, account farms controlled by a single person (or a handful of people) continue to run rampant on the forum. Bounty managers may not have time to double-check that every participant is playing by the rules. This can have the following negative consequences:

• Needless overpayment of tokens/BTC/ETH/etc.
• Low quality promotional activity by participants.
• Dissatisfaction of client could lead to reduced payment or discontinuation of campaign.
• Extra work for bounty/campaign manager.

Using time-tested, peer-approved methods that result in a high rate of accuracy, my service roots out rulebreakers, cheaters & low-performance members of your campaign, raising the quality of campaign results while lowering costs, saving both you and your client valuable time & money.


How will you go about doing this?

While the needs of bounty/signature campaign managers vary, the primary service involves identifying alt account farms, cheaters & banned users through a number of established methods that are both transparent and sensible. These include account association via shared social media IDs, shared crypto addresses & in some cases, shared crypto deposit addresses. Offending accounts are then red tagged and thus rendered ineligible for campaign participation.

Some of the tools used for this purpose include ninjastic.space, bpip, loyce.club, and block explorers like bscscan, etherscan, blockchain.com, etc. I currently have 907 campaign member addresses tagged with forum account names in bscscan, which makes it easier to quickly identify alts and account farms:



Because of the need for transparency to ensure fairness, all results will be posted in a separate, non-moderated Reputation thread where accounts tagged as bounty cheaters / ban evaders / etc. can appeal the findings, and other members of the community can express their concerns/views. All campaign members subject to analysis will be treated in a fair and consistent manner.


How much does it cost?

As of now, there are two different options being offered which have different fee rates:

1) Bounty campaign investigation: I receive 50% of the payment that would have gone to campaign participants (up to the point of the investigation) that are found to be breaking campaign rules, whether it be in BSC tokens, ETH tokens, TRX tokens, etc. This option is reserved for bounties that are at least halfway concluded.

2) Signature campaign investigation: I will analyze your campaign, subsections of the campaign, or individual accounts at a rate of $25 per hour, payable in BTC, ETH, XRP, DOGE, TRX, USDT, or any major (top 20) cryptocurrency. Smaller campaigns may only take 1-3 hours while larger campaigns may take 8 or more hours. The minimum payment for any investigation is $25.


Qualifications:

• 4-years experience in detecting alt accounts
• 220+ negative feedbacks left for bounty & sig campaign cheaters
• I'm consistently in the top 10-15% of most DT-included users (when selected for DT1)
• Submitted over 2000 reports to moderators (>93% good, ~5.3% unhandled, <1% bad)

Relevant Threads:

• Nutildah's bounty cheaters & ban evaders thread
• Long-time sig campaign farm ID'd via single wallet transaction
• AI Spam Report Reference Thread

If you have any questions about how this service will work not covered in this post, feel free to ask below! If this sounds like something that may be of interest to you, please feel free to send me a PM so we can discuss terms & scope of operation.

I'm not sure this has ever been tried before but I strongly believe this service could be of mutual benefit to both managers and their clients, resulting in significant savings for campaigns of all types & sizes.


(this thread is self-moderated: posts by spammers & trolls will be deleted)