Topic: Nutildah's bounty cheaters & ban evaders thread (Read 8472 times)

More sufficient evidence that connected them beyond reason of doubt, at least according to me in my head. Like, this is much more damning as its simple address recycling between alt accounts:


Yes, there's quite a lot of evidence here that you've collected which says they are alts. I don't have time to look at it right now but am leaving this as a reminder to myself.

If after all the work done and all the connections found you don't find it enough for a tag, what is enough for a tag, according to you? All the excuses he makes sound to me like the same excuses cheaters always make when they get caught.

That aside, Alone055 is an expert in rhetoric. He'd be able to argue that it's not his fault if he gets caught stabbing someone live.

Hello OP.
I want to ask if these two users can be considered alt (gunhell16 and Mr. Magkaisa)?

Because based on what I saw when Mr. Magkaisa replaced his Bitcoin address in the Duelbits campaign topic (when he was still a participant in the campaign) I also saw that gunhell16 had also posted the address in the WINZ campaign and now he has also become one of the participants in the Duelbits campaign. So can both of them have indications as alts?





Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/bc1qen6t0ent4nc2jstfgrys2ly9tyrpeterfkyp9x

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In addition, the user gunhell16 has also been reported in the reputation section by YOSHIE in this section: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q3) And for some others I also found:


Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/0x8cd76494bb3dDFa23F3629F805a8F6777402A3ca





Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/37mxLTWwgRZizYjFVjKwAtNvTnXYwf4yUG


Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/0xEc90a5d31263d92E52f9B465994571EA045D34a2


Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/0x85a541045DDD59e36b7B3DfA94250bbe75C67ca4

Some other accounts also have connections with martina14;



Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/TF12wmpFB8bFmJN3tpgBySrYJfBU7BomKe

Fair enough. Thank you.

OK well I don't really believe you at all, but my suspicions alone aren't enough to warrant any kind of tag. Your posts aren't terrible, and there's far worse travesties currently happening, so I'm not gonna dig into your account anymore, or HONDACD125's.

That's why I said it's fair enough for you to come up with all that, but then I said it doesn't necessarily mean we are the same person.


People don't usually do that, but newbies do sometimes, especially when they are initially under the guidance of someone who has spent more time in the field and knows how things are better managed. When you learn everything yourself, you start using everything independently.


Not altogether. I don't remember when others started, but I know I came to know about Bitcoin around 2017-18. At that time, Aamir1 was already into these things. He was a forum member from earlier, and I joined later. We used to join bounty campaigns, but I had a different account for it. He, Aamir1, used to collect tokens/coins from those he was guiding and convert them to fiat since we didn't know much back then.

I stopped joining bounty campaigns when I realized I was only wasting my time to get dust tokens as a reward. So, I abandoned the account I was using for bounty campaigns and started using the forum normally using this account.


I was referring to the present time, not the past. Honda stopped using the forum in the past, he joined back around 2023 or something, I don't remember exactly, with this account, HONDACD125.


I have already mentioned that account, both in Timelord's thread and above as well. That's an account I used to use for bounty campaigns in the initial days, abandoned it, and never used it again. And, it didn't get banned. I said this because I never created or used alt accounts after the initial days.

It doesn't have to prove you are the same person. Its meant to be evidence that anyone could digest and come to the same conclusions I have.


You're right, but when you all use the same deposit address, it suggests you are. People don't jointly share cryptocurrency accounts. Everyone has their own.


I am not doubting that.


It depends on the context.


You learned altogether, at the same time? That's weird because your accounts were created years apart. Whats extra weird is HONDACD125's account was created 675 days ago yet the last transaction in the screenshot above is from 1267 days ago.


You don't, you aren't, and you couldn't prove anything that way even if you wanted to.


Well, that account was banned, so yeah that's a good reason to no longer be on the forum.


Of course he has alts... Why would anyone share a cryptocurrency address? Why would you post the same address someone else has already used? Also, everything that ever happened is in the past.



You were doing OK up until this point. Why say something so easily disprovable?

Fair enough, but none of that really proves that we are the same person, which we are not. The transactions you have found and connected are all from the times when we used to be into bounties and stuff, and I have known many people from my country/locality who were into them as well. I see a lot of people from my local community personally, and I'm in direct contact with them, so having on-chain transactions with them doesn't mean we are all the same. We can do transactions with each other for whatever reason we deem fit since we are all into cryptocurrencies, and this can happen between any other users in this forum as well.

Just because two or more users had on-chain transactions with each other in the past doesn't mean they are the same people. If two reputable members of this forum had on-chain transactions with each other in the past, would you say they are the same?

Both users (Aamir1 and HONDACD125) are from my locality, and I have known them since we first learned about cryptocurrencies. I never felt the need or thought we needed to show that we are related or know each other publicly unless we were forced to do that. Aamir1 is no longer in the forum, and HONDACD125 joined back recently. As far as I know, he has no active alts. Whatever you found to connect us all is all from the past.

I don't find it fair to connect every single account with me only because we had on-chain transactions in the past. Search throughout my post history, even the posts from archives, and tell me if you can find me using any social media links, accounts, or any addresses owned by others posted from me in the forum. You won't find any because we are not the same. People who control and run so many alt accounts tend to make such mistakes. You can't expect me to be so careful yet use addresses from old times because if I was so good at this, I could easily use newly created wallets and would never have to be discussing this here today.


Please find them and connect them with me but with solid evidence, and I promise I will stop using this forum forever. Connecting past accounts with me only through on-chain transactions isn't fair.


I never cheated or broke any forum rules. I'm not the person/people you are connecting me with, so I don't see a reason for that. As I have already said, if you or anyone can find me using social accounts, addresses, or anything that proves I'm connected with another (active or banned) account, I'll stop using the forum myself. I never felt the need to have alt accounts.

Timelord deleted a post of mine from his "Known Alts" thread without any kind of explanation, so I'm reposting it here, as it took me a couple of hours to make.


Challenge accepted.

I can connect all the following accounts to you:

0x09ce7ee857fffb4f2f7d32b12cf9a0984d2b1ec2
Sumaiya55 (inactive)
Aamir1 (banned)
Aamir1_alt (inactive)
BitLover321 (inactive)

That address funded this one:

0x7aa9a05e10e434049c201663bab149b7314d2de5
Alone055

and this one:

0x8fe717c73f189e146e76986824dd82ed68915f84
BitCoin350 (inactive)
HONDACD125

The BitCoin350/HONDACD125 address funded this one:

0x6E51bEba5f820993e83a2Be4940fc283263FCBaC
CryptoManiac05 (inactive)
HONDACD125

Here we can see all the accounts using the same Binance deposit address, over a period of years:



Now I know what you're gonna say, "that's an exchange service, its not my address." Well in that case, why did you have so many other transactions with BitCoin350/HONDACD125/CryptoManiac05/Bitlover321/Aamir1?



and



Why would Aamir1 fund both your address and HONDACD125's address if you are using his exchange service? Its pretty obvious you are all the same person.

Finally, you were using both Alone55 and HONDACD125 accounts to participate in the same contest:



I'm sure that's not the only instance, and I'm sure you have several more alt accounts on the forum as well. Do you have anything to say before I tag you as a ban evader/contest cheater?

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Now you know why.

I was asked to take a look at something that starts with an account registered in April 2011, shivansps. While it looks like this account has changed hands at least a couple times over the years, this post isn't about that, its about it being linked to several alt accounts. First and foremost, parmen23:


Then if there was any remaining doubt:


Expanding on this, I found other alts in what appears to be a small farm:

Lrshohag
Luthforpsy
Firminospecial
Avoidme
majjedabegum

In this BSC transaction, Lrshohag sends 1.92 BUSD to the address owned by shivansps/parmen23.


Here we can see that Avoidme uses the same YouTube channel link first, but alters the post in Oct 2023:



Lrshohag also accidentally put @Avoidme1 as a Telegram username in this archived post.

Several of the alt accounts send their BUSD and tokens to Lrshohag, and share a Binance address as well. The transaction made 335 days ago are 1-minute apart from each other, which highly suggests they are indeed alts:



All 5 accounts applied to or participated in this bounty, which explicitly forbids the use of alt accounts, so they are indeed bounty cheaters, even if they are a separate entity from shivansps/parmen23.

Also appears to be connected but not tagging for now:

Sigmundfreud

I'm sure you're right, but I'm no longer doing this for free anymore, outside of analyzing accounts that really bug me. I opened up my own Bounty Cleanup & Alt Detection Service that is available to campaign managers that want to weed cheaters out of their campaign. Some campaigns don't even have the "no alts" rule, but for the ones that do, they could save money for their clients by refusing to needlessly pay out extra tokens to cheaters.

There is a lot of reasonable proof here you are very experienced from us and you can see all BTT account activity between 4-6-7 and seeing them in the same series it is clear that all the accounts are managed by one person.

You havent given us much information to work with. Every bounty thread is filled with such activities.

You could have at least singled out the accounts you suspect are alts, and explained why you think so.

Hello, nutildah I have followed some accounts and I can see the activity of BTT accounts between 4 to 6 I think all accounts are managed by one person you can see page 27 to page 28 Links: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5475833.520

Bengali is the main language of Bangladesh. In India, there are many region. West Bengal is one of them. People from West Bengal also talk Bengali though the tone of verbal communication is a bit different.

that post is 9 months old, I don't remember everything and the twitter account got banned because I given access of that to a sites where they automatically follow other users and like other users posts.
to get paid, so the twitter account got banned. I have access to that facebook account I can activate that account any time i want.
Maybe I cutted that url, who will spend this much time to participate in bounty when I am not interested in it and i know i am not going to win anything good amount.
I just participated hoping i am not going to win because i have no followers or anything.

If you are sure that I am a fraud then you can check my posts and the original fraud's post maybe there will be a time when the other users may had posted at a seconds difference between my post and there's post.

Your explanation makes no sense at all.  Even if we suppose that you copied someone else's application by mistake, the issue still remains where you copied that Twitter link since I cannot find it in that form anywhere. And then changing it to a made-up Twitter account is also confusing.  Using fictional accounts for Twitter and Facebook makes me scratch my head and  i would love to understand the thought process there.

Why did you use a non-existent Twitter and Facebook profiles?

I don't want to be unreasonable. I'm just having a hard time understanding where you might have copied it from. Every time Shohag.btc put his twitter profile link in an application, it had "?s=09" added to the end of it, like this:


Every single time he did that. Yet you didn't for some reason.

Shohag.btc did apply in the bounty two days earlier than you, but he didn't include his Twitter profile, yet you did. Let's compare the applications:




They are not very similar. You included a couple extra lines that he didn't. I'm just trying to understand why you would bother to find this guy's Twitter, remove the "?s=09" part, and then after lovesmayfamilis pointed it out to you, you changed it to a Twitter profile that seems to have never existed...


Yes its true he doesn't fit the mold of the accounts in the bounty farm, although he didn't start posting in the India section until a couple weeks after he posted the bounty application.

Alright well since this is the only connection I can find for now, and the transactions in cafter's BSC address are in no way connected to the bounty farm, I will remove the rating.

I don't know Bangladesh language i talk in english in indian board and hindi too you can see here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chai-ke-sath-biscuit-ya-roti-5470673

I tried to talk in hindi but they prefer english more.

I respect your investigations, but these two accounts are posting in different local sections. Although India and Bangladesh are neighboring countries, as Wikipedia shows, both languages can understand each other.

Although cafter also writes in English in the Indian section.