Topic: Nutildah's bounty cheaters & ban evaders thread (Read 8959 times)

I would like to ask you, nutildah, would this be an evasion of the ban?

Siren's account has been banned from the forum since July 26, 2019. However, transactions from his wallet 3LmcQ9FhZDkKd3hahCgvQEtWXaV8MJ7Ljz are now being processed from another account.
Siren
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Siren  7/26/2019 8:32:34 PM   Changed to Archived status   Autoban user

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=3LmcQ9FhZDkKd3hahCgvQEtWXaV8MJ7Ljz

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/3LmcQ9FhZDkKd3hahCgvQEtWXaV8MJ7Ljz

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/d13a3a1056ca9b9b84b564a2e9e38e203515c6315c7a5e5468ec2995ba423078




https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=3GJWSCeQmh1wjw6eefCnQYKGfizc9ajgo9
bitterguy28

And hopefully you've had time to do some further investigation into these accounts because I don't see anyone being brave enough to tag some of these accounts as neutral or negative even though they have clearly done wrong on this forum.

If you're controlling more than one account at a time, that's multi-accounting. It doesn't matter if one of the accounts was in your possession the whole time or not. The whole story about giving someone your password to post on your behalf doesn't really even make sense because clearly you didn't use it... You didn't check to see if you were logged into the right account, and from the standpoint of the casual observer, the reason why not doesn't matter. I'm not inclined to believe your story but will adjust what the feedback says.

Ahhh!First of all sorry to ThemePen because of me you made a mistake, yes I gave you password to apply upcoming signature campaigns.

Yes nutildah campaigns was not closing but of course who applies first get are taken first (I think) that's why didn't wanted to be late.
Now please don't you think you are judging fastly? I was in hilly area (my village) and there is a lot of problem of network sometime it is good and sometime unable to connect with internet. He didn't only applied in one campaign he applied after that in two campaigns too. And now I am back home in my city. And will apply myself.
I know it will be not good but I can give you the call record that he called me and we spoke all it on the phone. By the way I request to you to remove your feedback. And don't attach me to the banned account I'm not linked with any of those I know ThemePen as he the one who introduced me on bitcointalk. 
Other then that all this until point of Sr. Member all my own hard work. You can see my post history I stay with certain boards of my interest and you will see even the campaigns I joined will be similar too.
Anyway once again sorry I accept my mistake that I asked him to post on my behalf.

Always weird to see a 2017 account with zero merits posting in sections other than Altcoin Bounties.

hamba laeh - 0x1bd0683b028449c27212b5e687bfd6a20f0cf16a

Connected with the following accounts:

Ureung jameun (tagged) - 0x9BE8b9A815b3418F0996aD287635bA880BaA6F99
Muslimin mj (inactive) - 0x35092929F47fbf1C89553a2516A8107368454317

The first account funded the address of the second, and it seems like one account gathered tokens from the other two, a role split among the three accounts. Here's one such example:



Ureung jameun already tagged as a bounty cheater:


A more straight-forward connection to another bounty cheater (use of the same Telegram handle):

The campaign is still accepting applications, there's no sense in asking you to do it on his behalf because its not like it was closing in an hour or by the end of the day. Its still open right now.

Nobody's gonna believe you. I suspected you had alt accounts from the time you started sucking up to JJG for merits in the WO thread. That's usually a dead giveaway. You normally do a good job and cover all your tracks, but not this time.

Dear yes he sent me password on telegram. May be his internet was slow or something I don’t know he told me on call that he can’t post at moment and ask me to do it. I mentioned he was away from internet at that time.

And for clarification part you give when it’s requested I saw my mistake when LogiLogitechMouse quoted me and I also informed him in personal message about my mistake.

If he was away from the internet then how it's possible for him to sent his password to you?

When LogitechMouse quoted your post, why you didn't make a clarification, but instead you delete the post and act like there was nothing wrong? you make a clarification after nutildah expose you linked to alt account that got ban evasion because you don't want to lost your existing accounts.

Innocents would make a clarification first before someone caught them.

First of all Hello nutildah,
ahh not again... anyway since this has came up at least one more time I will just try to justify or clarify but will say that gmjutt6 is my friend from bitcointalk Pak community and this has been brought up many times that we are a small community and freinds... some of us living in same cities and studying in same universities too. We have groups on WhatsApp and Telegram too and that's out of bitcointalk... to talk mostly about crytpo in general. We even tried to organized a small meetup (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64840580). Al thought this meetup didn't happened due to some other reason.
Telling all this because just want to clarify that you might find transactions between us here and there but that doesn't make any of us a cheater or related accounts, just happen to be friends we met through bitcointalk.
and same thing happened in these transactions too we did exchang crypto currencies sometimes used same address or sometime different some time it paid back in local currency there was no malicious intent just normal funds transfers.  That's it.
 
 
And the others case is different Rustam is one of friends friend in other group on WhatsApp and I introduced him this forum too. He applied in this campaign but then it closed. And he said to me that when a campaign is opened plz let me inform. When this campaign opened I called him to reapply. But instead he sent me his password and requested me to reapply for him since he was away from the internet. And that's my mistake and I accidently posted from my own account.

Saw this the other day, was kind of funny:


Its funny because ThemePen never posted in this thread previously. I'm trying to think of a situation in which this could happen as an honest mistake, and I just can't see it happening. I mean... can any of you? I'm trying my hardest to be objective about it. This person probably operates a lot of accounts on the forum. Here's something that lends credence to that idea, and to be fair it shows that ThemePen did apply for the campaign in 2022:


This address sent BNB to an address belonging to banned accounts NoorulHuda and gmjutt:



They also both sent BNB to the same address:



So the owner of gmjutt (AKA NoorulHuda) is still active -- not only did they never go away but they've been here with multiple accounts the whole time.


"Good luck to myself, so I can send more merits to my alt accounts."

Please, help me understand how these aren't all alts of each other.

More sufficient evidence that connected them beyond reason of doubt, at least according to me in my head. Like, this is much more damning as its simple address recycling between alt accounts:


Yes, there's quite a lot of evidence here that you've collected which says they are alts. I don't have time to look at it right now but am leaving this as a reminder to myself.

If after all the work done and all the connections found you don't find it enough for a tag, what is enough for a tag, according to you? All the excuses he makes sound to me like the same excuses cheaters always make when they get caught.

That aside, Alone055 is an expert in rhetoric. He'd be able to argue that it's not his fault if he gets caught stabbing someone live.

Hello OP.
I want to ask if these two users can be considered alt (gunhell16 and Mr. Magkaisa)?

Because based on what I saw when Mr. Magkaisa replaced his Bitcoin address in the Duelbits campaign topic (when he was still a participant in the campaign) I also saw that gunhell16 had also posted the address in the WINZ campaign and now he has also become one of the participants in the Duelbits campaign. So can both of them have indications as alts?





Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/bc1qen6t0ent4nc2jstfgrys2ly9tyrpeterfkyp9x

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In addition, the user gunhell16 has also been reported in the reputation section by YOSHIE in this section: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q3) And for some others I also found:


Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/0x8cd76494bb3dDFa23F3629F805a8F6777402A3ca





Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/37mxLTWwgRZizYjFVjKwAtNvTnXYwf4yUG


Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/0xEc90a5d31263d92E52f9B465994571EA045D34a2


Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/0x85a541045DDD59e36b7B3DfA94250bbe75C67ca4

Some other accounts also have connections with martina14;



Source: https://ninjastic.space/address/TF12wmpFB8bFmJN3tpgBySrYJfBU7BomKe

Fair enough. Thank you.

OK well I don't really believe you at all, but my suspicions alone aren't enough to warrant any kind of tag. Your posts aren't terrible, and there's far worse travesties currently happening, so I'm not gonna dig into your account anymore, or HONDACD125's.

That's why I said it's fair enough for you to come up with all that, but then I said it doesn't necessarily mean we are the same person.


People don't usually do that, but newbies do sometimes, especially when they are initially under the guidance of someone who has spent more time in the field and knows how things are better managed. When you learn everything yourself, you start using everything independently.


Not altogether. I don't remember when others started, but I know I came to know about Bitcoin around 2017-18. At that time, Aamir1 was already into these things. He was a forum member from earlier, and I joined later. We used to join bounty campaigns, but I had a different account for it. He, Aamir1, used to collect tokens/coins from those he was guiding and convert them to fiat since we didn't know much back then.

I stopped joining bounty campaigns when I realized I was only wasting my time to get dust tokens as a reward. So, I abandoned the account I was using for bounty campaigns and started using the forum normally using this account.


I was referring to the present time, not the past. Honda stopped using the forum in the past, he joined back around 2023 or something, I don't remember exactly, with this account, HONDACD125.


I have already mentioned that account, both in Timelord's thread and above as well. That's an account I used to use for bounty campaigns in the initial days, abandoned it, and never used it again. And, it didn't get banned. I said this because I never created or used alt accounts after the initial days.

It doesn't have to prove you are the same person. Its meant to be evidence that anyone could digest and come to the same conclusions I have.


You're right, but when you all use the same deposit address, it suggests you are. People don't jointly share cryptocurrency accounts. Everyone has their own.


I am not doubting that.


It depends on the context.


You learned altogether, at the same time? That's weird because your accounts were created years apart. Whats extra weird is HONDACD125's account was created 675 days ago yet the last transaction in the screenshot above is from 1267 days ago.


You don't, you aren't, and you couldn't prove anything that way even if you wanted to.


Well, that account was banned, so yeah that's a good reason to no longer be on the forum.


Of course he has alts... Why would anyone share a cryptocurrency address? Why would you post the same address someone else has already used? Also, everything that ever happened is in the past.



You were doing OK up until this point. Why say something so easily disprovable?

Fair enough, but none of that really proves that we are the same person, which we are not. The transactions you have found and connected are all from the times when we used to be into bounties and stuff, and I have known many people from my country/locality who were into them as well. I see a lot of people from my local community personally, and I'm in direct contact with them, so having on-chain transactions with them doesn't mean we are all the same. We can do transactions with each other for whatever reason we deem fit since we are all into cryptocurrencies, and this can happen between any other users in this forum as well.

Just because two or more users had on-chain transactions with each other in the past doesn't mean they are the same people. If two reputable members of this forum had on-chain transactions with each other in the past, would you say they are the same?

Both users (Aamir1 and HONDACD125) are from my locality, and I have known them since we first learned about cryptocurrencies. I never felt the need or thought we needed to show that we are related or know each other publicly unless we were forced to do that. Aamir1 is no longer in the forum, and HONDACD125 joined back recently. As far as I know, he has no active alts. Whatever you found to connect us all is all from the past.

I don't find it fair to connect every single account with me only because we had on-chain transactions in the past. Search throughout my post history, even the posts from archives, and tell me if you can find me using any social media links, accounts, or any addresses owned by others posted from me in the forum. You won't find any because we are not the same. People who control and run so many alt accounts tend to make such mistakes. You can't expect me to be so careful yet use addresses from old times because if I was so good at this, I could easily use newly created wallets and would never have to be discussing this here today.


Please find them and connect them with me but with solid evidence, and I promise I will stop using this forum forever. Connecting past accounts with me only through on-chain transactions isn't fair.


I never cheated or broke any forum rules. I'm not the person/people you are connecting me with, so I don't see a reason for that. As I have already said, if you or anyone can find me using social accounts, addresses, or anything that proves I'm connected with another (active or banned) account, I'll stop using the forum myself. I never felt the need to have alt accounts.

Timelord deleted a post of mine from his "Known Alts" thread without any kind of explanation, so I'm reposting it here, as it took me a couple of hours to make.


Challenge accepted.

I can connect all the following accounts to you:

0x09ce7ee857fffb4f2f7d32b12cf9a0984d2b1ec2
Sumaiya55 (inactive)
Aamir1 (banned)
Aamir1_alt (inactive)
BitLover321 (inactive)

That address funded this one:

0x7aa9a05e10e434049c201663bab149b7314d2de5
Alone055

and this one:

0x8fe717c73f189e146e76986824dd82ed68915f84
BitCoin350 (inactive)
HONDACD125

The BitCoin350/HONDACD125 address funded this one:

0x6E51bEba5f820993e83a2Be4940fc283263FCBaC
CryptoManiac05 (inactive)
HONDACD125

Here we can see all the accounts using the same Binance deposit address, over a period of years:



Now I know what you're gonna say, "that's an exchange service, its not my address." Well in that case, why did you have so many other transactions with BitCoin350/HONDACD125/CryptoManiac05/Bitlover321/Aamir1?



and



Why would Aamir1 fund both your address and HONDACD125's address if you are using his exchange service? Its pretty obvious you are all the same person.

Finally, you were using both Alone55 and HONDACD125 accounts to participate in the same contest:



I'm sure that's not the only instance, and I'm sure you have several more alt accounts on the forum as well. Do you have anything to say before I tag you as a ban evader/contest cheater?

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Now you know why.

I was asked to take a look at something that starts with an account registered in April 2011, shivansps. While it looks like this account has changed hands at least a couple times over the years, this post isn't about that, its about it being linked to several alt accounts. First and foremost, parmen23:


Then if there was any remaining doubt:


Expanding on this, I found other alts in what appears to be a small farm:

Lrshohag
Luthforpsy
Firminospecial
Avoidme
majjedabegum

In this BSC transaction, Lrshohag sends 1.92 BUSD to the address owned by shivansps/parmen23.


Here we can see that Avoidme uses the same YouTube channel link first, but alters the post in Oct 2023:



Lrshohag also accidentally put @Avoidme1 as a Telegram username in this archived post.

Several of the alt accounts send their BUSD and tokens to Lrshohag, and share a Binance address as well. The transaction made 335 days ago are 1-minute apart from each other, which highly suggests they are indeed alts:



All 5 accounts applied to or participated in this bounty, which explicitly forbids the use of alt accounts, so they are indeed bounty cheaters, even if they are a separate entity from shivansps/parmen23.

Also appears to be connected but not tagging for now:

Sigmundfreud