Bounty hunters let use our brain and get united, PLEASE!

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Quote from: mersal on March 01, 2020, 07:03:05 AM

But every newbie popping up in this newbie is just looking for money so they choose the do bounty task which keep the bounties still alive even after hundreds of scam projects for the last 2 years.So someone needs to stop these newbies to have an effect on bounties or the bounty team will enjoy the free promotion from new members forever.

I dont think this applies to everybody, maybe the majority of the new accounts signing up but some are genuine users who are trying to develop a project or have a question related to bitcoin or is a core developer. Yes it is correct that many alt account spammers who got negative trust will try to evade the trust rating by making a new account totally disregarding the reason for their punishment.

In this way the bounties go on but the trend to go for them has reduced which is evident by the reduction in new posts made in the bounty section compared to 2017 and in 2020.

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Quote from: mersal on March 01, 2020, 07:03:05 AM

But every newbie popping up in this newbie is just looking for money so they choose the do bounty task which keep the bounties still alive even after hundreds of scam projects for the last 2 years.So someone needs to stop these newbies to have an effect on bounties or the bounty team will enjoy the free promotion from new members forever.

You are right. But not just newbies, many high ranked members are promoting many shit bounties too! For example, I was shocked by seeing that many SR, Hero member was doing Ride Node bounty signature a month ago, the same thing is happening in Hitmex bounty! I believe if we don't have good bounties then we should stop doing bounty job for a while, take rest instead of doing shit bounties!
When all of them stop promoting shit bounties, we will have good bounty then!

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But every newbie popping up in this newbie is just looking for money so they choose the do bounty task which keep the bounties still alive even after hundreds of scam projects for the last 2 years.So someone needs to stop these newbies to have an effect on bounties or the bounty team will enjoy the free promotion from new members forever.

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Quote from: Finestream on March 01, 2020, 06:01:56 AM

This community is very supportive, we need people who are brave enough to make a scam accusation on projects that are scammers.
These people does not deserve a growth on their project, they are underestimating the bounty hunters without knowing that their reputation is very important and it could be ruin.

Indeed bounty hunters are smart now and careful when choosing where to participate because of the past experiences. It's a good thing some hunters are concern and wise to expose scam projects.

Quote from: Novatech8 on February 21, 2020, 02:41:45 AM

What is there to use brain about? With your research you still can't guarantee getting paid after bounty ends and this doesn't mean the token will have good value when it get listed, some scam projects are pretty much undetectable so it's all gambling things

Yes its like gambling because we have no assurance since we can't determine a scam projects 100% by doing a research however we can get an idea and information about the project and that's what matter. It can help us to decide whether to participate or not.

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This community is very supportive, we need people who are brave enough to make a scam accusation on projects that are scammers.
These people does not deserve a growth on their project, they are underestimating the bounty hunters without knowing that their reputation is very important and it could be ruin.

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Quote from: jessyj48 on February 29, 2020, 02:00:01 AM

Most bounty campaign that use locks aren't always good in the end, it's either they fail to complete the payment or not all get paid, same thing happen with Storichain and till date the final payout never happened

locking it will never help the price so it never change the fact that even you lock the token investors can still sell thier share.
So if you failed to complete what you promise to investors they will sell it in time that investors know that they broke the promises they make.

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Most bounty campaign that use locks aren't always good in the end, it's either they fail to complete the payment or not all get paid, same thing happen with Storichain and till date the final payout never happened

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Quote from: Greatchu on February 24, 2020, 06:42:42 AM

Putting locks on bounty reward is never a good sign to begin with, I never pray for such bounty in my life because there is higher chance of never getting paid, some times it's bounty manager fault, if there will be lock on reward hunters should be the first one to know, in fact it should be on the bounty thread

Everything related with bounty should be in the bounty thread, if it's about coins and payment then it should be transparent. If it's not,
that would be a signal that something is wrong and that you need a deeper check before joining or in the best case you should just move
from that project to some other.

you already said Everything related with bounty should be in the bounty thread, . that means everything including the payment , coins , allocations and a like should be announce on the thread . keeping these things means the campaign is shady and there is a potential that they wont pay . locking the reward is also a normal rule to some bounties . this does not mean that they are shady but they are only protecting the value of thier coins from potential drops because you know , bounty hunters are itching to sell thier thier coins once they recieve the payment or once the coin has been listed . not all but most of them prolly .

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Quote from: Greatchu on February 24, 2020, 06:42:42 AM

Putting locks on bounty reward is never a good sign to begin with, I never pray for such bounty in my life because there is higher chance of never getting paid, some times it's bounty manager fault, if there will be lock on reward hunters should be the first one to know, in fact it should be on the bounty thread

Everything related with bounty should be in the bounty thread, if it's about coins and payment then it should be transparent. If it's not,
that would be a signal that something is wrong and that you need a deeper check before joining or in the best case you should just move
from that project to some other.

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Putting locks on bounty reward is never a good sign to begin with, I never pray for such bounty in my life because there is higher chance of never getting paid, some times it's bounty manager fault, if there will be lock on reward hunters should be the first one to know, in fact it should be on the bounty thread

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Quote from: Novatech8 on February 22, 2020, 02:17:29 AM

Many developers don't like using escrow for God knows what reasons

Every project get the ICO funds in a trusted escrow agent. Be it from this forum or private institutions who are also investors of the project. Now they may turn scam one fine day but that was your bad luck that you bought them.

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but escrow is the best way I can think of right now, few bounty managers takes this very serious and if developers aren't ready to abide to escrow scheme they bid farewell

True, but do the bounty hunter care? They are in it for the money and any way they can get it will be enough for them. So they go for the bounties with high payouts being fooled with greed and thus waste their time and reputation promoting a scam project. They obviously lack the brains and are less fortunate enough to not be informed or even have the intelligence to comprehend the signs.

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Quote from: Novatech8 on February 22, 2020, 02:17:29 AM

Many developers don't like using escrow for God knows what reasons but escrow is the best way I can think of right now, few bounty managers takes this very serious and if developers aren't ready to abide to escrow scheme they bid farewell

Escrow is the best thing for any bounty hunters it will give assurance to any participants securing their shares in times after the bounty campaign was ended, any developers who are concerned with this are responsible teams who are providing allocated funds for their participants. This current situation inside the market needs to be considered before jumping in.

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Many developers don't like using escrow for God knows what reasons but escrow is the best way I can think of right now, few bounty managers takes this very serious and if developers aren't ready to abide to escrow scheme they bid farewell

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Then what would youre planning to do? Lots of bounty hunters do suffer this kind of problem but they dont have any options nor choice but to move on.
Going for legal aspects? It wont that be easy if we do consider on funds and even tracing them would already be a challenge.All you can do is to spread out warning
on shady they are but still its too late yet the damage had been done.Its better to stop completely and dont waste up your time on bounties.

It is because the team of some project are already aware of the helpless situation of bounty hunters is the reason they have the confidence to treat hunters like this, change reward payment date at will to suit their interest,
Even if hunters decided to take legal action there is little that can be achieve because money is required for some of the legal process,

Best solution will come from the bounty management, bm should be more strict with their rules in handling any campaign, let the team sign an agreement not to bridge any of the set, and also require them to escrow the tokens to protect the interest of the participants.

Using proper escrow service gives a good chance for hunters to receive their shares, though it's hard to find those developers who are willing to take this kind of action but for Hunters confidence it should be demanded so it won't be a wasted time and efforts while participating in any kind of bounty jobs.

Escrow is been always suggested nor preferred but as said it would always depend on the developer itself if they would agree with the deal or not but most of them wont consider it out thats why
when you do bounty hunting then you are already on the verge or 50-50 chance of gambling yet you wouldnt know if you would get paid or not in the end.

Uniting to make an appeal or making a step to make action about this abuse would be pointless or useless.Most project owners are anonymous and once the money been stolen then theres
no change on getting it back.So hunters would be the victim and also its investors in the end.

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Quote from: JeotQ on February 20, 2020, 09:49:18 AM

Tokoin bounty reward was already good even if they haven't pay up the rest of the tokens, some things have to be considered as well, I wish you can put yourself in developers shoe for once then you will understand

If the developer or the teams can pay the rest of the token to the participants, I think their project will get more supports from people because people will see that the project is not like the other projects. I think they need to work hard for the project so they can get trust from the people so that will help their project popular and the project could gain more investor. If they still not pay the token to the participants, then I don't think that the project will stay for a long time.

If they pay bounty Hunter the remaining bounty tokens are you saying this means they will stay for a long time? Why? Because they pay hunters? This doesn't state the fact that the project will live long or not, Tokoin project is a very good project but it's sad they don't fulfill their promises, it can easily ruin their reputation

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Quote from: JeotQ on February 20, 2020, 09:49:18 AM

Tokoin bounty reward was already good even if they haven't pay up the rest of the tokens, some things have to be considered as well, I wish you can put yourself in developers shoe for once then you will understand

If the developer or the teams can pay the rest of the token to the participants, I think their project will get more supports from people because people will see that the project is not like the other projects. I think they need to work hard for the project so they can get trust from the people so that will help their project popular and the project could gain more investor. If they still not pay the token to the participants, then I don't think that the project will stay for a long time.

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What is there to use brain about? With your research you still can't guarantee getting paid after bounty ends and this doesn't mean the token will have good value when it get listed, some scam projects are pretty much undetectable so it's all gambling things

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you should have made this stand long ago mate because the whole 2018 and 2019 is the scammers years in this Bounty world.
from one way to another we are seeing complaints specially in social media sites that these people are really dominating the advantages of fooling Hunters.

and you are correct this must be stopped at any causes because they will never give chances for hunters to Gain but only their team will.

those Victims must be here and expose all their experiences so the proof will be established in each of those scammers.

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Quote from: JeotQ on February 20, 2020, 09:49:18 AM

Tokoin bounty reward was already good even if they haven't pay up the rest of the tokens, some things have to be considered as well, I wish you can put yourself in developers shoe for once then you will understand

There's always reason behind and if in case that the project is for real developers are willing to give those tokens and let the Hunters to decide what fate will bring to their shares. It's tough but chances to get good amount is still available just needs to be more careful and do a good research.

the reason i think is because they are short in budget thats why they dont make the full payment as what on stated on thier agreement before the campaign started but this is not easily acceptable if you are one of those who work to promote them . we can still file a case if they wont pay the rest of the coins at a given date . but there are some that pay batch per batch or wont pay full payment because of the avoidance of dumping of the price . maybe that is what they tryin to do but they dont only stated it clearly

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Tokoin bounty reward was already good even if they haven't pay up the rest of the tokens, some things have to be considered as well, I wish you can put yourself in developers shoe for once then you will understand

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