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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on March 05, 2020, 03:29:56 PM

Well as a bounty manager, it's quite easy to review projects to avoid publicizing scam projects to the general public either through signature, bounty campaign or creating ANN thread although it's still the duty of the participants to carry-out their personal research to avoid falling for this scam. Sometimes we could miss some red flags that doesn't means we're accomplice if the scam just wanting to get pay and leave the community to surfer.

Some projects don't start as scam or they were too good in disguising themselves as legitimate projects while deceiving the bounty manager and her promoters. In case like this, you can't blame the bounty manager for not figuring things out in time but when a BM can be blamed and punished is when they have exposes the scam but yet they still associate themselves with the scam by managing their publicity.

I think it is quite tough to find out at the beginning. But for me, a scam project always starts out as a scam. If you have no intention whatsoever of actually doing work, developing product or solution, and just want to raise money, it is pretty obvious. Founders and devs who are hard at work need only show us github and all the stuff happening. If you only see marketing and conference and PR, for me ,,, that is a start of a scam.

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Most bounty managers almost do not devote time to studying the project with which they will work, because why need to do it if the bounty manager receives immediately his pay in top altcoins or bitcoin, so thats why there are too many scam bounty companies on this forum.

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Once the team of the project is real and the whitepaper is not a plagrism one the bounty manager will surely accepts the project and it's left to the bounty hunters to do a complete research on their own, sometimes there is always something that bounty managers Misses

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We shouldn't blame anyone if we participated a shit project or be scammed by it.
We should learn to choose where to participate and we should learn to accept that it was our fault for being scammed,
If we just spend some time to look at the project and did our own research then we wouldn't get scammed or joined those shitty project.

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Quote from: taufik123 on March 05, 2020, 09:19:38 PM

Quote from: btcltcdigger on March 05, 2020, 09:11:11 AM

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some bounty hunters will be very happy if they receive the token, even if the token that is shared is a scam or fraud token. Receiving tokens is better than nothing.
The token will be a decorative asset in the wallet that reminds that the token was generated from a scam project that cheats many people.

I have a wallet full of "decorative" tokens from various exit scams that seemed promising and legit, but in the end turned out to be worthless.
Want to buy them to decorate your man cave walls?

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Way back in 2017 there are so many promising bounties and back then most of the bounty manager are responsible.
They are the one's who would find a good project to promote and we just need to see their new project that they are managing.
Back I don't really care a lot about the project I trust the bounty manager because I know they are only managing the trusted projects.

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Quote from: Iyanu14 on March 04, 2020, 07:21:22 AM

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Point 1 and 3:
in fact many who are appointed as gift managers are very good and highly commendable. certainly before accepting a project of course he will see and learn everything. but because in the past few years there have been so many projects, there have been many bounty managers along with the number of projects, so we are clear and do not deny that many impromptu bounty managers are important to pay and do not pay attention to the impact of what will happen later. very sad of course a phenomenon like this.

Quote from: Iyanu14 on March 04, 2020, 07:21:22 AM

I think there should be some experienced members of this forum apart from moderators (because moderators' works might be too enormous) that should be in charge of reviewing projects before bounty managers are allowed to create bounty and/or announcement threads for such projects. If this can be done effectively, I think the advent of these unworthy projects can be mitigated.

This is what I have been thinking for a long time same with your thoughts, but we also have to understand the busyness that they do and it is not easy to ask them to pay attention to this. I think they have also done something after seeing this, maybe it doesn't look effective.
is it not just made a provision that to become a bounty manager may not use a new account but the original account and must be a full member level and above, so it can be accounted for.

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Quote from: metenjean on March 05, 2020, 10:05:17 PM

Many bounty campaign manager giving fake promise and promoting bad project, some time bounty manager try to make bad thing with some coin by delay distributing for making price down and make bounty participant received with lower value of coin reward from bounty campaign.

When you join a bounty that is shady and just like the bounty manager you promote it, you also become culpable of the same violation, is it then the "crime" of the bounty managers alone, I do not believe so. Many users even after warning them about a dishonest project, still promotes it, due to the attractive pay they receive, the forum wouldn't implement what the OP suggests due to the fact that "scams are unmoderated", but users should only work for managers that can be trusted and there are a lot on the forum. There are so many scam projects all around, so the more users just join campaigns at random without any restraint or research, the more it becomes easier to be caught promoting a scam, and that could result in a tag in some cases. If possible work only with reputable bounty managers!

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I don't know clearly how a manager like that can be recruited, because not only is negative trust but the manager's name is bad. So far, from what I have seen, not only bounty managers but ICO rating sites are also like that and even cryptocurrency ifluencers prioritize the payment that can be obtained from giving a good review on ICO / IEO compared to seeing in detail the project.

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Quote from: taufik123 on March 05, 2020, 09:38:16 PM

Quote from: DabsPoorVersion on March 05, 2020, 09:27:17 PM

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yes maybe our thoughts are different, but the garbage assets in the wallet that make my wallet full, let me know the history of the project that deceived me.

At least that way I can remember how to anticipate it later so that I am not trapped in a garbage project for the umpteenth time.

Yes I call it a decorative asset that will decorate and fill the contents of my wallet and it is hard work that will always remind me as a bounty hunter.

Is that so,

Anyways, it is true that we have different thoughts, because if it was me, I don't even want to remember those projects that scammed me or the one that failed to launch in the market. I just add everything to my experience so I can at least avoid those kinds of projects in the future.

If that is how you see the tokens you received, I will not argue with that, we have different things we treasure and that is what makes it valuable.

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Quote from: Slow death on March 04, 2020, 09:07:03 AM

we need to look at the side of the bounty managers.

1 -) the maximum that the Bounty manager will do Is to confirm whether the team members are real or not

2 -) the maximum that the Bounty manager will do Is to confirm that the whitepaper has not been plagiarized

Complete analysis of the project must be done by the community, and when I speak of complete analysis of the project I speak about the question of sustainability of the project in the long term and this is not an easy task.

Indeed, we cant really put the blame to bounty managers because they are just doing their job (like the bounty hunters) to get paid and they have their own rules before accepting the project that they will manage.

No one coerce the bounty hunters to participate, its our own discretion and dyor is a must. We cant rely for someone to do the checking before we can say a project is legit. But well if there's a team who can do this, its good for the bounty hunters to prevent ending up in scam.

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Quote from: Iyanu14 on March 04, 2020, 07:21:22 AM

It's no more news that many of us would have had some horrible experiences participating in some resources wasting projects. However, my opinion is that, do bounty managers just accept hook line and sinker to manage bounty campaigns for any project without taking some time to look at the prospects of such project?

I think there should be some experienced members of this forum apart from moderators (because moderators' works might be too enormous) that should be in charge of reviewing projects before bounty managers are allowed to create bounty and/or announcement threads for such projects. If this can be done effectively, I think the advent of these unworthy projects can be mitigated.

To wrap it up, a bounty manager once told me when I called his attention to some unrealistic plans of the project he was managing, he said he is not concerned about the success of the project, once he gets his weekly payment from the team. I want to know if there are some levels of punishment for bounty managers that manage unworthy projects apart from negative trust?

As long as investors are going to pay for the salary or give compensation to those who are going to review these projects that would be ok, but we cannot oblige people to do it for us for free, it's time consuming and what if their reviews turn out to be wrong, are you going to blame them when we should be doing this job, it's everyone for himself when it comes to investing.

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I think is our problem, not only bounty managers, we can't blame them. Bounty manager is good person with skill to help developer promotion, about how the project can give income and survive it's totally developer problems. I agree if we should check and not accept every program but of course in our position.

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Quote from: Iyanu14 on March 04, 2020, 07:21:22 AM

It's no more news that many of us would have had some horrible experiences participating in some resources wasting projects. However, my opinion is that, do bounty managers just accept hook line and sinker to manage bounty campaigns for any project without taking some time to look at the prospects of such project?

I think there should be some experienced members of this forum apart from moderators (because moderators' works might be too enormous) that should be in charge of reviewing projects before bounty managers are allowed to create bounty and/or announcement threads for such projects. If this can be done effectively, I think the advent of these unworthy projects can be mitigated.

To wrap it up, a bounty manager once told me when I called his attention to some unrealistic plans of the project he was managing, he said he is not concerned about the success of the project, once he gets his weekly payment from the team. I want to know if there are some levels of punishment for bounty managers that manage unworthy projects apart from negative trust?

Most of the well known bounty manager has been gone now my favorite bounty manager back then was Sylon.
Sadly he doesn't manage any bounty anymore but most of his bounty was a huge success I think he is one of those manager who filter the project first before accepting it.
Now it seem's like most of the bounty manager only accepts the project get paid and doesn't really look deep into the project if it is fake or not.

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Quote from: metenjean on March 05, 2020, 10:05:17 PM

Many bounty campaign manager giving fake promise and promoting bad project, some time bounty manager try to make bad thing with some coin by delay distributing for making price down and make bounty participant received with lower value of coin reward from bounty campaign.

I don't think all bounty managers accept bids to manage campaigns, I know some people who are truly experienced and most likely projects that are legit. But it depends on the project team, and the task of the bounty manager is simply to manage it, so the problem of late distribution or reduction of prizes is the policy of the team. Nobody wanted this to happen either from the participant or the bounty manager.

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Many bounty campaign manager giving fake promise and promoting bad project, some time bounty manager try to make bad thing with some coin by delay distributing for making price down and make bounty participant received with lower value of coin reward from bounty campaign.

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Quote from: DabsPoorVersion on March 05, 2020, 09:27:17 PM

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yes maybe our thoughts are different, but the garbage assets in the wallet that make my wallet full, let me know the history of the project that deceived me.

At least that way I can remember how to anticipate it later so that I am not trapped in a garbage project for the umpteenth time.

Yes I call it a decorative asset that will decorate and fill the contents of my wallet and it is hard work that will always remind me as a bounty hunter.

Quote from: Rodeo02 on March 05, 2020, 09:33:11 PM

isnip- But honestly the day you participate you dont have any idea if the token will get value someday so its not your fault having many of it.

sometimes there are some tokens that are not valuable and become junk suddenly become a very valuable gold.
Garbage tokens are not only generated from scam or fraud projects, but also from projects that fail to reach targets or softcaps. So anything can happen with the token.

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Quote from: DabsPoorVersion on March 05, 2020, 09:27:17 PM

Quote from: taufik123 on March 05, 2020, 09:19:38 PM

Quote from: btcltcdigger on March 05, 2020, 09:11:11 AM

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some bounty hunters will be very happy if they receive the token, even if the token that is shared is a scam or fraud token. Receiving tokens is better than nothing.
The token will be a decorative asset in the wallet that reminds that the token was generated from a scam project that cheats many people.

Isn't it the same as receiving nothing?

I don't see any bounty hunters being very happy even after receiving their bounty token if it is a scam or does not have any value at all.

As for me, I don't call it as a decorative asset in the wallet if it doesn't have a value, it is just a trash that is impossible to be removed in your wallet. Also, I don't want to remember the project that scammed me, so maybe it's just you who think that way.

its the same as nothing to recieve , since you are not able to sell that token's what will be the use of it in your wallet just another trash been send to you without any use.

But honestly the day you participate you dont have any idea if the token will get value someday so its not your fault having many of it.

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Quote from: taufik123 on March 05, 2020, 09:19:38 PM

Quote from: btcltcdigger on March 05, 2020, 09:11:11 AM

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some bounty hunters will be very happy if they receive the token, even if the token that is shared is a scam or fraud token. Receiving tokens is better than nothing.
The token will be a decorative asset in the wallet that reminds that the token was generated from a scam project that cheats many people.

Isn't it the same as receiving nothing?

I don't see any bounty hunters being very happy even after receiving their bounty token if it is a scam or does not have any value at all.

As for me, I don't call it as a decorative asset in the wallet if it doesn't have a value, it is just a trash that is impossible to be removed in your wallet. Also, I don't want to remember the project that scammed me, so maybe it's just you who think that way.

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Quote from: btcltcdigger on March 05, 2020, 09:11:11 AM

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some bounty hunters will be very happy if they receive the token, even if the token that is shared is a scam or fraud token. Receiving tokens is better than nothing.
The token will be a decorative asset in the wallet that reminds that the token was generated from a scam project that cheats many people.

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