Topic: Bounty Managers and Shit projects - page 14. (Read 1897 times)

I'm still remember if there was someone who told that bounty manager should be choosen by all moderator of this forum. Which is mean we need a reputable manager to manage all project who have intention to promote on this forum. As we can see right now, there just a lot of project who manage by newbie/copper member account who named by the project but I guess it doesn't mean the project is legit. But when we have a reputable managee who choosen by the moderator we have no worries to believe them because they will know the scam and the bad project.

I think the blame shouldn't be push on bounty manager as virtually everyone is here to make some cash not forgetting the fact that most projects do pay bounty managers in their token system. One of the hardest thing in hunting is vetting of projects, I've participated in tons of shit project which shows great potentials at the onset but ends up being a shit and when this happens, most hunters do push blames on bounty managers for managing such project forgetting the fact that the manager isn't part of the team that decided the scam exit. I think people (hunters) really need to start owning their shits and be more careful when choosing bounties to join.

Most people on this forum managing campaigns tend to be higher-ranked members and people with older accounts in general, and I find most people that fit this category that also manage campaigns definitely care more about their reputation than money. You might be getting paid more to manage shadier campaigns, but it's not good in the long run if you get negative trust as a result of being associated with a scammy project. As CryptopreneurBrainboss mentioned, though, the circumstances behind some campaigns and projects can change very rapidly and vary from project to project, so there shouldn't ever be any significant punishment to the bounty campaign manager until a deeper investigation is made as to how things came to be.

The words of a sane person. In the end, we ourselves choose which project to participate in and which not.
There will always be a manager who will take up a bad project because he is paid, it cannot be otherwise.
However, to participate in this shit or not depends only on each of us. No need to push your responsibility to others

Well as a bounty manager, it's quite easy to review projects to avoid publicizing scam projects to the general public either through signature, bounty campaign or creating ANN thread although it's still the duty of the participants to carry-out their personal research to avoid falling for this scam. Sometimes we could miss some red flags that doesn't means we're accomplice if the scam just wanting to get pay and leave the community to surfer.

Some projects don't start as scam or they were too good in disguising themselves as legitimate projects while deceiving the bounty manager and her promoters. In case like this, you can't blame the bounty manager for not figuring things out in time but when a BM can be blamed and punished is when they have exposes the scam but yet they still associate themselves with the scam by managing their publicity.

We cannot put all the blame to Bounty Managers, there are good Bounty Managers that I have seen. And these managers feel sorry and devastated when the project team left the whole bounty community with NOTHING. We don't even know if they are really getting their payment for their handled projects. I know some are not taking the projects seriously and accepting the project without reviewing it, but there are some that really made their own research regarding the project and end up without nothing.

Just to add to the points you've established here, just as OP is suggesting that bounty managers should be held responsible fof certain failures in the project they managed, I think the same measures have to be applied to the bounty hunters who promoted the projects if it is discovered that they're investors who lost their financial assets to such projects.

In the end bounty hunters are not so different from the managers after because they largest of the hunters don't give a shit if they project turns out to be failed one, in as much as they're able to get paid and rid off the tokens for any amount possible, it's always the investors that ends up being the victims.

I think none of the above,  what would a hunter do with a worthless token, and will a hunter do if they didn't receive their reward!
I think not only bm can resolve this problem just by doing thorough research before accepting a project, there are some project that will appear legit but will still end up deceiving both hunters and bm, unfortunately, this issue is bigger than bm alone.

Well I wouldn't blame bounty managers because majority of them negotiated their payment with ethereum or Bitcoin with the project managers while leaving the hunters at the mercy of earning shitcoins, the bottom line is that hunters should research thoroughly before participating in any project.

I don't think they needed to be punished by promoting a shit project. Maybe they are managing a shit project however it is their duty to do it if some project approached to them and ask for a management they could do it as if they like since it depends on the investor whether they would invest or not and the project.

I think the managers can be punished if they promote a SCAM/FRAUD project such as pyramid scheme projects or ponzi scheme projects but promoting a shit project or worthless project I think not since it's is not illegal to develop worthless project but a scam/fraud project is illegal.

I think that even the most famous manager with a good reputation is not immune from a fraudulent project. Even a project that has been carefully scanned for fraud can ultimately turn out to be fraud. Bounty hunters should know that no one can give a 100% guarantee on the success of a project.

I doubt we should punish bounty managers for working for bad projects even tough they know it. Apple has literally thousands of workers that work for them and a lot of them are in California working a very decent job with a high pay and very cool place to work with right?

Well, they are also making sure Chinese toddlers are working for them as well, literally kids under age of 10 that are hand making many of their parts and working on their factories too, literally slave labor levels. So as you can see there are not that many innocent companies in the world if we want to only exclusively work for morally non-flexible places. Hence we should be morally flexible to get paid. I do not feel like bounty managers are at wrong here, they have to pay their bills as well.

I think the moderator also participates in the task of reviewing the project, but the moderator is also human where it is natural when the task is not carried out. A project will run well if it is managed well, not only thinking of one profit perspective but all aspects concerned. Always optimistic and be wise

Surely these Bounty managers are also getting hired to run and manage the project when it comes to campaigns. Just like the bounty hunters, they are also getting paid so when it comes to the authenticity of the projects or the ICO surely the bounty managers have nothing to do with it. Most of the ICO's or bounties that are scam most like the bounty managers are also a victim of this the basic job is to manage and distribute the reward.

But there are still some campaigns when the bounty managers are an accomplice in the scam or they plan to scam the participants including the bounty manager.

DEAR PEOPLE! ASK NOT WHAT THE FORUM/ BOUNTY MANAGER CAN DO FOR YOU, ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THE FORUM/ BOUNTY MANAGER

Like someone said in the beginning, bounty managers are just some guys doing these jobs managing excel sheets and payments for money themselves. While. it'll be commendable if there could be a laid down criteria for the managers, the people responsible for such a situation are the bounty hunters themselves who will promote all kind of shit on facebook and twitter for free just to have the chance to have 1 out of the 21 million bounties they do to turn out right.

If the people taking part in these bounties and spreading there shitty shares on facebook and twitter, taking up unnecessary space on the servers, filling the terabyte of storages and the internet data packets with worthless shit, if those people were to take a step back and actually analyze things before agreeing to promote shit, all of these scams would die a slow and sure death.

Yet, there will always be people who will accept such jobs as bounty managers as well as bounty participants. There only target is quantity and not quality. For such people, well i guess that is payback for promoting scams too. The reason is that when you promote scams on facebook and twitter, it helps these shit-projects to have a free social media presence for which they would otherwise have to work hard. This in turn makes it easier for them to fool the people they are actually targeting (relatively uninformed, low tech savvy people for whom a website, a big facebook/ telegram group is proof enough of authenticity).

In away, the irresponsible bounty participants are responsible for people getting scammed. Its only fair to the universe that they get scammed in return.

In some point they are also victims of this scammed projects, but it's really in their shoulders to research hard before accepting the job. The judgement of picking the job from the developers should be well studied, assuring that bounty hunters will not wasted their time participating. It's an obligations that should be remembered by anyone who wanted to handle bounty facilitations.

We cant blame the bounty manager if the project turn into scam project. The bounty manager also scammed just like us. So we need to more careful to pick a bounty project from the beginning.

When it comes to bounty managers and shit projects, it is hard to always blame the bounty manager because some projects are re assuring and  honest, until it comes to payment distribution and it goes anon.

Likewise, alot of people would insist on  bounty manager to escrow bounty reward tokens,  but that cannot work unless the token is trading already.
Why do i say that ?

If you recall the days of bountyhive, i think uptherium and one other us token, did a token swap when it was time for bounty distribution to make the escorwed funds useless.
The best resolve for bounty is BITCOIN or perhaps 50% BTC OR USDT and 50% the projects token.

Most of the managers are doing the same thing and very few who offers the real service not just to the project owner but also protects the interest of the bounty hunters. Some greedy managers don’t succeed on their plan because of the flags created against the thread and if you see a scam bounties and yet the managers still working with them, better to create the flags.

Bounty Manager is like us, they can't know which project becomes a scam after the end of the ICO or IEO. So we cannot blame them, they are not members of those projects. In addition, we do not need to receive worthless tokens because we will not be able to sell them when they become scams.