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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

i agree but only those who has bad reputation cant join the bounty campaign, all the sections in bounty he cannot join in any of them.

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Quote from: Cherylstar86 on December 06, 2019, 07:59:49 AM

I definitely agree but as far as I know the team and the bounty managers already anticipated that kind of situation since most of here in crypto currency community want an assurance due for some valid reasons. Nowadays, makes all of us so tired finding a legit bounty and most of us want a good outcome and hoping have a good return in the future.

Legit bounty?

You expect people to give out gold mines as bounties? Those days are long gone and bounty spammers should learn their lesson that shitcoins are never the future. If you expect to make some money you should develop some skills, get educated with the proper knowledge to be able to work for some bitcoins. This could also help you get a real life job and that is always better than wasting time on spamming twitter with some shady project's generic tweets.

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Quote from: janggernaut on December 06, 2019, 08:24:01 AM

Quote from: longyenthanh on December 06, 2019, 04:17:39 AM

Sure! I even expect a certain trend among scammers .. Until now, they gave huge budgets for bounty campaigns, but hunters began to realize that those with large budgets usually turn out to be scams and rather do not join that campaigns. I think scammers will now try to authenticate their reality by creating real budgets .. so much lower.

Yea, but back then in 2017-2018 i ever joined in a altcoin campaign which allocated $2milion worth of their token. And after 1 month their ICO ends, they ended up paid all bounty participants (some of people earn $100k - $200k on that 1 bounty only).
Now, as you said, they lowered it to smoething realistic which around $50k -$100k but it's still turned scam

Actually the case is that in back 2017 almost all of the ICOs were successful and all of them after listing on exchanges got around 10x higher value which made that much income to the bounty hunters while now the case is not like that which was in 2017. Now the altcoin season is down so the ICO projects are facing hard time to raise funds which result many in getting failed while some of them cannot afford to list on bigger exchanges.

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Quote from: longyenthanh on December 06, 2019, 04:17:39 AM

Sure! I even expect a certain trend among scammers .. Until now, they gave huge budgets for bounty campaigns, but hunters began to realize that those with large budgets usually turn out to be scams and rather do not join that campaigns. I think scammers will now try to authenticate their reality by creating real budgets .. so much lower.

Yea, but back then in 2017-2018 i ever joined in a altcoin campaign which allocated $2milion worth of their token. And after 1 month their ICO ends, they ended up paid all bounty participants (some of people earn $100k - $200k on that 1 bounty only).
Now, as you said, they lowered it to smoething realistic which around $50k -$100k but it's still turned scam

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

I definitely agree but as far as I know the team and the bounty managers already anticipated that kind of situation since most of here in crypto currency community want an assurance due for some valid reasons. Nowadays, makes all of us so tired finding a legit bounty and most of us want a good outcome and hoping have a good return in the future.

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

Of course there are many bad new bounty projects flooding the bitcoin world, yet the managers putting limitation to new bounty project is not the issue, but need for proper scrutiny. Definitely as bounty Hunter increases day by day reward is no more sufficient at distribution. Note: hunter shoot at chances. They may be fortunate to catch big or the other way .

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Quote from: duuuuude on December 06, 2019, 04:44:38 AM

In this case bounty hunters are used as consumables and there will always be a replacement for your place. but you can relax because in the future there will most likely be no need for bountists at all.

As so many projects will release, bounty hunter will provide it one by one. Somehow it will be a problem if there are so many project will scam no one willing to participate on it.

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In this case bounty hunters are used as consumables and there will always be a replacement for your place. but you can relax because in the future there will most likely be no need for bountists at all.

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Quote from: janggernaut on December 05, 2019, 06:43:29 PM

Quote from: longyenthanh on December 05, 2019, 03:18:30 PM

Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

Unfortunately, but your proposal is opposite to what project developers want to achieve. When someone runs a bounty, they do it to promote the project and make it as visible as possible. According to your proposal, it would limit the number of participants, which would also limit the range of the promotion. Unfortunately, but no one will be interested in such an idea.

The only who like that proposal is obviously the bounty participants. If in a bounty they have restricted how many people can join in there, bounty hunter will get higher payment after ICO/IEO ended or as promised.
But even they have do that, it doesn't guarantee the ICO will ended successful

Sure! I even expect a certain trend among scammers .. Until now, they gave huge budgets for bounty campaigns, but hunters began to realize that those with large budgets usually turn out to be scams and rather do not join that campaigns. I think scammers will now try to authenticate their reality by creating real budgets .. so much lower.

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

But what if the the project team themselves says the other way around? What if that's what they wanted to. To have a large number of participants to take part on their campaign so their project will reach a larger scale and have more exposure to the future investors.

Since way before we have had bounties with a limited and non limited participants. True the limited ones could give you move rewards, but the non limited could also give you a good payment. Back in the days, bounty used to give a huge rewards pool and they also have a good price once it hits the exchanges.

Right now is not really an option, whether it's limited or not, with a low bounty pool and lower price when it hits exchange, so yeah. You should decide whether it's worth your effort or naw.

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let say they limit the participant but what if their qouta post per week is 30 and above ? that should still countribute to spam on the forum imo especially those he hire are just spamming and dont know how to write a constructive post properly or dont know how to timed and segregate thier post on different boards . its hard to be a manager and he cant possibly detect the exact quality of its participants . budget also depend on the founder of the project .

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams,

The problem is that hunters rarely care about limitation and if limited they will start giving death threats to the managers. No manager wants that and thus has to take care of both sides.

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the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters

Unfair? This forum is very lenient to bounty spammers and still allow them to participate even if their post history is 100pages of twitter reports. I am sure no other forum in the internet is going to tolerate that level of spam. Bounty hunters dont care about these aspects and are only bottom feeding the projects. Its about time they stopped doing shitcoin bounties and start posting to get a good rank for joining a signature campaign that pays in bitcoin.

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I think the number of participants for each bounty should be limited. Such a restriction will benefit many subjects.

*The amount of prizes to be distributed will be kept constant, and the number of prizes will be higher per participant in bounty with fewer participants. In this way, such bounties will become the first priority for bounty hunters.

*Due to the small number of participants, the control of fraudulent detections can be made easier by the managers.

*In a competition where there are normally many participants, the total amount of prizes you won will not increase much if you make even a lot of effort. However, if the number of participants is low, those who make extra effort will work more and more effectively because they know that they will get their efforts.

*In short, the lack of supply will increase demand and this will lead to an increase in value.

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Quote from: longyenthanh on December 05, 2019, 03:18:30 PM

Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

Unfortunately, but your proposal is opposite to what project developers want to achieve. When someone runs a bounty, they do it to promote the project and make it as visible as possible. According to your proposal, it would limit the number of participants, which would also limit the range of the promotion. Unfortunately, but no one will be interested in such an idea.

The only who like that proposal is obviously the bounty participants. If in a bounty they have restricted how many people can join in there, bounty hunter will get higher payment after ICO/IEO ended or as promised.
But even they have do that, it doesn't guarantee the ICO will ended successful

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

Some of bounties manager have done that especially the trusted manager. They will choose the user of this forum who have a good quality post and I saw them very careful when choosing participants to promote the project.

However, since there are a lot of newbie (copper member) who become bounty manager who just choose bounty hunter randomly, even they just make a spreadsheet as a benchmark so as the bounty manager didn't weed out every participant who want to join.

I'll be agree if there is a rule/criteria for being bounty manager. So, the moderator of this forum will just choose the trusted manager to avoid spammer also scam project.

Even if such rules are introduced between Bitcointalk users, any developer can decide who to employ. If he wants, some of his employees will do it on his behalf without the need for an additional person as a bounty manager. If the bounty campaign conditions will be good enough for hunters, they will join regardless of whether it is run by Newbie or Legendary member.

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

Some of bounties manager have done that especially the trusted manager. They will choose the user of this forum who have a good quality post and I saw them very careful when choosing participants to promote the project.

However, since there are a lot of newbie (copper member) who become bounty manager who just choose bounty hunter randomly, even they just make a spreadsheet as a benchmark so as the bounty manager didn't weed out every participant who want to join.

I'll be agree if there is a rule/criteria for being bounty manager. So, the moderator of this forum will just choose the trusted manager to avoid spammer also scam project.

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

Unfortunately, but your proposal is opposite to what project developers want to achieve. When someone runs a bounty, they do it to promote the project and make it as visible as possible. According to your proposal, it would limit the number of participants, which would also limit the range of the promotion. Unfortunately, but no one will be interested in such an idea.

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

First point, Bounty managers arent the ones who do control on the allocation of funds when it comes to marketing stuff.
Second, ICO projects do focus on maximum exposure thats why limiting participants isnt an option.
Third, Even the rewards are big in token amount but you cant still be sure if those coins would have value or none.
So in the end of the day you cant be sure if you would able to earn some penny with bounties.

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Quote from: Winscosinally on December 05, 2019, 08:36:12 AM

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

But projects want more exposure without increasing reward pool so they introduced stake based rewards so more participants more exposure but the same money from the bounty team.If bounty managers put restrictions then project bounties will be managed by the team itself.

More exposure more money, that is the way it should be, what OP should have written in his/her post is bounties with low allocation should always have limited participants, let the work fits the reward, some bounties will even add more weeks without extra rewards

How we can find the value of rewards? Based on the percentage they allocated or number of tokens or just ICO based USD value? Nothing will give any idea about the actual value!

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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on December 05, 2019, 07:55:57 AM

RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITATIONS FOR PARTICIPATION IN A BOUNTY CAMPAIGN EQUAL TO HIGHER PAYOUTS

I think its time that bounty managers should start putting limitations on new bounty projects to avoid spams, the problem in this space today apart from scam projects is this forum is flooded with spammers and too many bounty hunters which makes reward unfair for hunters, what do you think? Agreed or disagreed? drop your points below

I agree to your point, but the bounty managers won't agree. If they limit and put restrictions, the users advertising for them will decrease. Thus, their exposure will also reduce. This means, that they will be paying more to less user for less exposure. Thus, they will consider this ineffective form of advertising.
Honestly, they don't care about spam. As long as they get some kind of exposure, they wouldn't care less. Just avoid bounty programs, and you will see them fixing themselves automatically!

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