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Topic: Bounty spammer meets AI Chat generator. Can they be banned on the spot? - page 2. (Read 2552 times)

legendary
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Jeez, am I reading the situation correctly, that these apparently AI-generated posts are getting "better"? 

No doubt they are getting better.

For example, Bing's AI chat allows a person to select a text on a page, created by a human, and ask him to make an explanation about that text. Then the AI will rewrite that text, add some more information it finds online. The fact that this text contains phrases written by a human makes everything much more realistic and difficult to detect that it was done by an AI.
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Question: Has this become a rampant problem here?  I've seen several threads dealing with AI stuff, but I don't have a feel for how it's being abused or to what extent.
I guess yes, I know a few people who have used AI to build their thread on another site, through constant commenting by multiple accounts. The AI is really doing this well and their job is just copy and paste. I'm not sure if this really affects this forum, but it could well be a concern like what's been out there, for example account farming.

Even before the creation of these GPT, there are posters that use excessive grammar and flowery words as they call
Why do you feel uncomfortable when they use flowery words? I thought people would prefer nice things over vulgar words  Tongue just kidding
legendary
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I found another AI chat shitposter: Edcrypto91:

Jeez, am I reading the situation correctly, that these apparently AI-generated posts are getting "better"?  I didn't look at this thread when it was originally started, but I just read the example from the OP and those posts are so obviously bot-written that they couldn't be anything else.  But I don't know, even though the content of Edcrypto91's post doesn't hold water if you take a minute to think about it, I can see how it would easily slip by mods and even members dedicated to reporting shitposters. 

If I didn't read that shit closely, I might even have given it a merit or two, and that's scary to me.  I'm going to really have to pay attention to whether posts make logical sense or not before I even consider meriting them.  I'll admit I often skim posts and judge whether there was at least some thought and effort into them and hand out merits without scrutinizing their substance.  Yikes.

Question: Has this become a rampant problem here?  I've seen several threads dealing with AI stuff, but I don't have a feel for how it's being abused or to what extent.
legendary
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anyway i think it is easier to notice the posts generated through AI since the answer to some topics are somehow inconsistent to some extent so it is much easier to spot, also adding those overly excessive usage of grammars and too much flowery words.
On this part, it's not a good idea to ban someone from using AI to write, I agree with LoyceV on this point. Everyone has a different way of expressing themselves, so we cannot catch someone else's fault through words, nothing is 100%. I'm emphasizing the point, these people can use AI to cheat with multiple accounts, and I want to know LoyceV's view. It's certainly not a strange thing, cheating always has a purpose  Roll Eyes

I don't think that the primary problem here is their cheating and whether they will enter with multiple accounts into the bounty of some garbage token. Managers should take care of that, they are paid for it.
The bigger problem here is that they tire us with their "flowery words", which makes the discussion completely pointless. We read a bunch of such crap until we come to a constructive post. Isn't that completely opposite to what this forum is aiming for?
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i think it is easier to notice the posts generated through AI since the answer to some topics are somehow inconsistent to some extent so it is much easier to spot, also adding those overly excessive usage of grammars and too much flowery words.

tsk tsk people really nowadays are searching for ways to be more lazy.

Even before the creation of these GPT, there are posters that use excessive grammar and flowery words as they call, it will generalize these posters and they are being accused of something that they've been doing ever since long before these AI are created, you have to give them a benefit of a doubt and present a shred of strong evidence that these users are indeed users of AI
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anyway i think it is easier to notice the posts generated through AI since the answer to some topics are somehow inconsistent to some extent so it is much easier to spot, also adding those overly excessive usage of grammars and too much flowery words.
On this part, it's not a good idea to ban someone from using AI to write, I agree with LoyceV on this point. Everyone has a different way of expressing themselves, so we cannot catch someone else's fault through words, nothing is 100%. I'm emphasizing the point, these people can use AI to cheat with multiple accounts, and I want to know LoyceV's view. It's certainly not a strange thing, cheating always has a purpose  Roll Eyes
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Thoughts on this? I'd say it looks like generit chat AI diarrhoea:
Downloading the blockchain isa resource-intensive process that requires a lot of bandwidth and time. Doing so over a public WiFi network increases the chances of the download getting interrupted, resulting in wasted time and bandwidth. and also could potentially violate the network's terms and service, which could lead to legal consequences.
Yup, my AI shitpost spidey-sense is tingling, too.

Red parts: I suspect he added those typos on purpose.
Looks like he also changed the comma after "wasted time and bandwidth" into a period (creating a new sentence starting with a lowercase "and"), and likely changed "terms of service" into "terms and service".

Much sneaky, so wow. Smiley



Here's another (more obvious) one I spotted:

If you have impregnated a girl, it's important to take responsibility for your actions and handle the situation maturely and respectfully. Here are some steps you can take:

Have a conversation with the girl: Talk to her about the pregnancy, how she is feeling, and what her plans are. It's important to listen to her and take her feelings and wishes into consideration.

Discuss your options: You and the girl should discuss your options for the pregnancy, which may include keeping the baby, adoption, or termination. It's important to make a decision that is right for both of you.

Support the girl: Pregnancy can be a difficult and emotional time, so it's important to support the girl in any way you can. This may include attending doctor's appointments with her, helping her with household chores, or just being there to listen and offer emotional support.

Take responsibility: If you and the girl decide to keep the baby, it's important to take responsibility for your role as a parent. This means being involved in the child's life, providing emotional and financial support, and being a positive role model.

Remember, having a baby is a big responsibility, but it can also be a joyous and rewarding experience. By taking responsibility for your actions and working together with the girl, you can create a positive outcome for everyone involved.
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My take:
-neutral tag
-report (some get banned, some don't)
I don't disagree with your opinion, but what do you think about their cheating purpose. Apparently, they use AI to write for them, and its purpose is monetize bounty campaigns. Is this equivalent to using multiple accounts to cheat? You know, if you only use one account, it's not necessary for you to use AI to write instead, although it may not be relevant, but the possibility of them using AI to cheat with multiple accounts still exists. What do you think about this issue? I want to know more about your opinion  Grin
if it happens that their case is heavy then they can be banned on the spot in my personal opinion. anyway i think it is easier to notice the posts generated through AI since the answer to some topics are somehow inconsistent to some extent so it is much easier to spot, also adding those overly excessive usage of grammars and too much flowery words.

tsk tsk people really nowadays are searching for ways to be more lazy.
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My take:
-neutral tag
-report (some get banned, some don't)
I don't disagree with your opinion, but what do you think about their cheating purpose. Apparently, they use AI to write for them, and its purpose is monetize bounty campaigns. Is this equivalent to using multiple accounts to cheat? You know, if you only use one account, it's not necessary for you to use AI to write instead, although it may not be relevant, but the possibility of them using AI to cheat with multiple accounts still exists. What do you think about this issue? I want to know more about your opinion  Grin
legendary
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what is the final consensus for the members who fill us with AI-generated content?
In addition to spam and considering that the content they present to us is not originally written by them, whether the red tag is appropriate in such cases? or even a request for a ban?
I don't think there's consensus. My take:
-neutral tag
-report (some get banned, some don't)

The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.
legendary
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I hope he'll be banned, but just in case I've left neutral feedback. Spammers should stay away from the tech boards!

what is the final consensus for the members who fill us with AI-generated content?
In addition to spam and considering that the content they present to us is not originally written by them, whether the red tag is appropriate in such cases? or even a request for a ban?
legendary
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Full Member zanezane returned after 2 years, and changed from short posts to excessively detailed posts. He's suddenly "answering" many questions on the tech boards.

Thoughts on this? I'd say it looks like generit chat AI diarrhoea:
Downloading the blockchain isa resource-intensive process that requires a lot of bandwidth and time. Doing so over a public WiFi network increases the chances of the download getting interrupted, resulting in wasted time and bandwidth. and also could potentially violate the network's terms and service, which could lead to legal consequences.

It is very important to note that you should only discard your old wallet once you have you confirmed that ll of your funds have been successfully transferred to your new wallet. You should also make sure to securely erase any sensitive information that may be stored on your old wallet to prevent unauthorized access.

Make sure to store your passphrase in a secure location, such as a password manager or a physical safe, to prevent it from falling into the wrong hands.
Red parts: I suspect he added those typos on purpose.
legendary
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And another AI chat shitposter is was polluting the tech board: GHOST Buster Banned!.
Examples of his generic long redundant largely off-topic posts:
Algorithms using RingCT and Dandelion++ technologies allow for simultaneous transaction privacy and protection against traffic analysis. Let's consider various types of transfers: P2C (from an individual to a company), O2O (from one individual to another), B2C (from a company to an individual), and B2B (from one company to another).

For P2C transfers, it is recommended to use simple wallets that do not require the involvement of third-party services such as exchanges. Users can buy BTC directly from another individual, giving them cash, and then receive the coins on their private wallet. Alternatively, a user in the Dominican Republic can sell their coins to another individual for cash.

For O2O transfers, simple wallets can also be used, but in this case, users can exchange coins directly without using third-party company services.

For B2C transfers, companies can use specialized wallets that allow for more complex operations such as multiple inputs and outputs. This can result in higher transaction fees, but can also reduce risks for the company.

For B2B transfers, it is also recommended to use specialized wallets that allow for multiple inputs and outputs. In this case, depending on the specific needs of the companies, different algorithms and technologies can be used to ensure transaction security and privacy.

The mathematical solution can be based on an analysis of transaction fees, which may vary depending on the type of wallet, type of transaction, number of inputs and outputs, address types, and other factors. To choose the most optimal solution, the costs of fees and the risks associated with using third-party services should be evaluated.

You're spot on. The safety of your coins depends on keeping both your seed phrase and passphrase secure and in different locations. If you lose either one, you won't be able to access your coins.
When generating a new seed phrase, it's advisable to use a trustworthy and secure wallet that has undergone rigorous testing and auditing. Also, be sure to verify the wallet address you're using to avoid being scammed by phishing.
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Here is also a very suspicious user MIner1448. His posts look too much like the text that AI generated. If you look at his list of posts, almost all of his recent posts are a product of AI. At least it seems that way to me. I could be wrong. But it's very beautifully written.

Example

It should be noted that all investments are associated with risks, including cryptocurrencies. Therefore, when deciding which cryptocurrency to invest in, you need to take into account not only its growth potential, but also its risks.
Regarding BTC and ETH price growth forecasts, it is worth noting that all such forecasts are only assumptions and cannot guarantee future results.
ETH has its advantages over BTC, as it is not only a cryptocurrency, but also a platform for building blockchain-based decentralized applications. Also, unlike BTC, ETH has a hybrid protection model that provides greater security against attacks on the blockchain.
As far as portfolio diversification is concerned, it may be a good idea to reduce the risks. You can consider investing in other cryptocurrencies such as Litecoin, Ripple, Bitcoin Cash, etc. However, before investing in any cryptocurrency, you need to do your own research and evaluate the risks and potential returns.

You need to ban such people.
legendary
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I found another AI chat shitposter: Edcrypto91:
Hi Guys i have 2 addresses not sure what the balance is, but i have the private key which begins with Letter K one has 49 characters and the other has 54 can anyone help?
You should exercise caution if your Bitcoin address contains any typos because doing so could result in the loss of your money.

You can attempt to fix the missing characters in your Bitcoin address by following these steps:

1. Look through your files: Look through any files you may have containing the address, such as purchase receipts or notes, to see if you can locate the missing characters.

2. Experiment with variations: If you're unclear of the missing characters, you might attempt several address variations. For instance, you can try adding various letter and number combinations until you find the right address if the last few characters are missing.
You should exercise caution if your Bitcoin address contains any typos because doing so could result in the loss of your money.

You can attempt to fix the missing characters in your Bitcoin address by following these steps:

1. Look through your files: Look through any files you may have containing the address, such as purchase receipts or notes, to see if you can locate the missing characters.

2. Experiment with variations: If you're unclear of the missing characters, you might attempt several address variations. For instance, you can try adding various letter and number combinations until you find the right address if the last few characters are missing.
You could possibly use a reliable online recovery tool
It's also completely off-topic.

He's spitting out AI crap as fast as his 30 Activity account allowes. See his post history.

I've reported 3 of his posts. I hope he'll be banned, but just in case I've left neutral feedback. Spammers should stay away from the tech boards!
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I don't know about other language translations but I'm pretty much sure that in terms of translating English to Bengali, chatGPT is the worst. Google translator does a better job than chatGPT. I had a test, just to check out and the result was horrible from chatGPT. Maybe in the next few years, chatGPT will form itself better but when I checked last time, it was a really bad experience.

That doesn't surprise me.

Good translation software is much more complex than one might imagine. Normally, it involves years of development for the result to be minimally decent. Google Translate already has many years of development that allows you to get better results, especially in less common languages.
i haven't tried using any other AI language translator, but years ago i've used google translate to try converting english to our local language, and it suck hahaha. until now the google translation isn't accurate but at the very least it is bearable to read. sometimes I translate difficult english words before constructing simple local sentence.
legendary
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I don't know about other language translations but I'm pretty much sure that in terms of translating English to Bengali, chatGPT is the worst. Google translator does a better job than chatGPT. I had a test, just to check out and the result was horrible from chatGPT. Maybe in the next few years, chatGPT will form itself better but when I checked last time, it was a really bad experience.

That doesn't surprise me.

Good translation software is much more complex than one might imagine. Normally, it involves years of development for the result to be minimally decent. Google Translate already has many years of development that allows you to get better results, especially in less common languages.
legendary
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Yes, I'm perfectly comfortable with that and I know I'm not doing anything wrong.
I'm just reflecting on the fact that AI tools can certainly translate better than Googel Translator, and this can generate even more doubts for AI text detectors.

As soon as I have a little time, I will do this test and comparison, for our more detailed analysis. Wink
I don't know about other language translations but I'm pretty much sure that in terms of translating English to Bengali, chatGPT is the worst. Google translator does a better job than chatGPT. I had a test, just to check out and the result was horrible from chatGPT. Maybe in the next few years, chatGPT will form itself better but when I checked last time, it was a really bad experience.
legendary
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I think this covers it:
27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
It's allowed on the English boards. I think you're okay: It's plagiarism if you translate someone else's text and don't mention the original. By that logic, it can't be plagiarism if you translate your own text.

Yes, I'm perfectly comfortable with that and I know I'm not doing anything wrong.
I'm just reflecting on the fact that AI tools can certainly translate better than Googel Translator, and this can generate even more doubts for AI text detectors.

As soon as I have a little time, I will do this test and comparison, for our more detailed analysis. Wink
legendary
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Another thought I have on this subject was the following scenario: Someone use ChatGPT to translate a text.

I, for example, normally use google translator to write my posts in English. If I ask chat to do this translation, maybe it will translate a little better. Does this cease to be my text? I don't think it is any longer, but it could certainly make the text more likely to be detected as a false positive.

It is really not easy to detect what is or is not 100% AI-created text.
I think this covers it:
27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.
It's allowed on the English boards. I think you're okay: It's plagiarism if you translate someone else's text and don't mention the original. By that logic, it can't be plagiarism if you translate your own text.
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