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Quote from: panjul07 on January 13, 2025, 10:27:18 AM

Actually I have the similar doubt that a casino will accept the document which is written in local language although there are many ways to translate it to English or any other language but I've heard a case where a user was asked to provide the document in English.

Some casino do accept the KYC documents in English language only. If our documents are not in English, we can always convert them into English and get it approved/Stamp by the issuing authority and then submit at the casino.

I don't know about other countries but in my country the translation of documents service is available, and it is widely used by the students who convert the local degrees into English translated ones and get them authorized by government authorities, so the foreign countries accept them. Same can be done with the KYC documents and it is the responsibility of the gambler to provide the right KYC documents in English Language.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 12, 2025, 03:25:41 AM

No matter if it's annoying or whatever, once you accept their rules and sign up at a casino where they have the right to request KYC, you will be forced to complete the KYC if triggered, or you have to leave your account with the funds. As I said, I also do not remember submitting additional information like a bank statement. But since I am a member of this forum, I have seen a lot of people submit their Bank statements to complete their KYC verification. Even if a casino ask to verify my address with some utility bills, I don't think they will accept my bills because the bill is written in local language. They won't be able to understand what is written there.

There are translation tools for that

. There are also AI that converts Image to text so it would be easier to translate the language, IMO. Anyway, I agree that once we agree to the terms and condition of a casino upon registering we need to adhere to the terms of the casino so if they need KYC no matter what level it is we have to comply, else we might not be able to play on the casino, like the notice I got from a certain casino that my account is only in withdraw mode until I submit lvl 2 KYC.

Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 13, 2025, 08:51:54 AM

But if you are talking about hiring employees from different regions so they can understand the documents, I don't think it is possible. If a company make 100 million dollars a month, then they may consider hiring employees from different regions.

As I stated above, I think they have tools or applications that can translate a certain language into English. So I think it won't be an issue whether they understand or not.

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Quote from: liuka on January 11, 2025, 04:43:35 PM

Yes, sometimes electricity bills, banks are their requests, it's very annoying, my friend. But I have gambled on many sites, some of which do not ask for proof of payment documents or bills, only our documents such as identity.

Yes, KYC is very troublesome, especially for gambling, being asked for KYC is certainly annoying because here we are looking for pleasure in the sense of relieving stress after working all day.

No matter if it's annoying or whatever, once you accept their rules and sign up at a casino where they have the right to request KYC, you will be forced to complete the KYC if triggered, or you have to leave your account with the funds. As I said, I also do not remember submitting additional information like a bank statement. But since I am a member of this forum, I have seen a lot of people submit their Bank statements to complete their KYC verification. Even if a casino ask to verify my address with some utility bills, I don't think they will accept my bills because the bill is written in local language. They won't be able to understand what is written there.

That's the point, once we checklisted that we are agree with the ToS during registration, we should be ready to be asked all possible cases such as highest level of KYC (source of income).
Of course we also have the right wether to do it or not once we are being asked to provide such personal document, but of course any decision we choose will have its own consequences.
Actually I have the similar doubt that a casino will accept the document which is written in local language although there are many ways to translate it to English or any other language but I've heard a case where a user was asked to provide the document in English.

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Quote from: arwin100 on January 13, 2025, 07:03:37 AM

I also guess they have means to translate those local documents what presented to them so if there's certain like that required to submit I also guess it will be up to the management on how they gonna deal those things.

I am not sure if you are talking about translating their TOS or having employees from different regions so they can understand the documents presented by the players. If you are talking about translations for the website, I do agree that having multiple languages certainly helps the business. The casino decides which language they should translate based on the percentage of players.

But if you are talking about hiring employees from different regions so they can understand the documents, I don't think it is possible. If a company make 100 million dollars a month, then they may consider hiring employees from different regions.

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Boxbet and all other platforms don't force anyone to use their platforms. People are all free to make their choices from visiting a platform, exploring it, registering an account, agreeing with Terms of Service, and funding their accounts for using like trading, investing, gambling.

Yeah, no platform actually forces anyone to use their platform. But as a user, once you sign up on their platform regardless of reading the rules, you accept their terms and conditions. So, even if someone later triggers their KYC, a user must comply with that if they want to continue playing or have their money back.

You may know that not all countries prepare their bills in English. The country is already digitalized when it comes to paying bills. But when you pay the bill, the bill does not contain the customer's address. The address is written in the main bill which is in the local language.

They just present their business here and its up to the people if they like their service provided. And as for the rules they set or write on their TOS its really up to people if they read their rules since once they neglect to do that for sure that they might get surprised for what the casino ask them to do.

That's why its really important to read the TOS so that they would know what to expect also see those things what they like so that they could decide to continue or not. This is been suggested for many discussion related to this matter and hopefully people learn from this talks.

I also guess they have means to translate those local documents what presented to them so if there's certain like that required to submit I also guess it will be up to the management on how they gonna deal those things.

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on January 12, 2025, 11:38:18 PM

Boxbet and all other platforms don't force anyone to use their platforms. People are all free to make their choices from visiting a platform, exploring it, registering an account, agreeing with Terms of Service, and funding their accounts for using like trading, investing, gambling.

Yeah, no platform actually forces anyone to use their platform. But as a user, once you sign up on their platform regardless of reading the rules, you accept their terms and conditions. So, even if someone later triggers their KYC, a user must comply with that if they want to continue playing or have their money back.

You may know that not all countries prepare their bills in English. The country is already digitalized when it comes to paying bills. But when you pay the bill, the bill does not contain the customer's address. The address is written in the main bill which is in the local language.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 12, 2025, 03:25:41 AM

Quote from: liuka on January 11, 2025, 04:43:35 PM

Yes, sometimes electricity bills, banks are their requests, it's very annoying, my friend. But I have gambled on many sites, some of which do not ask for proof of payment documents or bills, only our documents such as identity.

Yes, KYC is very troublesome, especially for gambling, being asked for KYC is certainly annoying because here we are looking for pleasure in the sense of relieving stress after working all day.

No matter if it's annoying or whatever, once you accept their rules and sign up at a casino where they have the right to request KYC, you will be forced to complete the KYC if triggered, or you have to leave your account with the funds. As I said, I also do not remember submitting additional information like a bank statement. But since I am a member of this forum, I have seen a lot of people submit their Bank statements to complete their KYC verification. Even if a casino ask to verify my address with some utility bills, I don't think they will accept my bills because the bill is written in local language. They won't be able to understand what is written there.

I haven't go though to submit my utility bills for KYC approved. Maybe I'm not that big of a gambler or the casinos that I played doesn't required that much, perhaps just a simple level 1 mandatory is enough.

As for the on-going KYC, I think crypto gamblers by now should know that this is going to happen as some point. There are a lot of regulations that this casinos have to follow, so if you are a whale or big bettor, but ready to be asked anytime specially if you win huge amount of money.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 12, 2025, 03:25:41 AM

No matter if it's annoying or whatever, once you accept their rules and sign up at a casino where they have the right to request KYC, you will be forced to complete the KYC if triggered, or you have to leave your account with the funds. As I said, I also do not remember submitting additional information like a bank statement. But since I am a member of this forum, I have seen a lot of people submit their Bank statements to complete their KYC verification. Even if a casino ask to verify my address with some utility bills, I don't think they will accept my bills because the bill is written in local language. They won't be able to understand what is written there.

Boxbet and all other platforms don't force anyone to use their platforms. People are all free to make their choices from visiting a platform, exploring it, registering an account, agreeing with Terms of Service, and funding their accounts for using like trading, investing, gambling.

After they check on I already read ToS and agree it, no reason to complain like they disagree with ToS and still open an account and fund their account. They can be lazy but they have freedom with their action and where they want to deposit money for any intention.

Utility bills usually bring more troubles to users in KYC verification, and if it is in local languages, not in English, it will be more troublesome.

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Quote from: liuka on January 11, 2025, 04:43:35 PM

Yes, sometimes electricity bills, banks are their requests, it's very annoying, my friend. But I have gambled on many sites, some of which do not ask for proof of payment documents or bills, only our documents such as identity.

Yes, KYC is very troublesome, especially for gambling, being asked for KYC is certainly annoying because here we are looking for pleasure in the sense of relieving stress after working all day.

No matter if it's annoying or whatever, once you accept their rules and sign up at a casino where they have the right to request KYC, you will be forced to complete the KYC if triggered, or you have to leave your account with the funds. As I said, I also do not remember submitting additional information like a bank statement. But since I am a member of this forum, I have seen a lot of people submit their Bank statements to complete their KYC verification. Even if a casino ask to verify my address with some utility bills, I don't think they will accept my bills because the bill is written in local language. They won't be able to understand what is written there.

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If I had to guess, it seems like you are someone who is reluctant to do KYC on various gambling sites. That's good to protect our personal data in any form that is carried out by many gambling sites.

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It's not like I did not complete KYC anywhere. I use centralized exchanges which means I completed KYC there. I also completed KYC on some exchanges. Yet, I do care about privacy. Completing KYC is a kind of hassle. Some casinos require you to verify different levels of KYC which includes a lot of documents like Bank account statements. So, usually, I try to avoid the platforms that require KYC. If I win something significant, then I may complete KYC on an exchange depending on its level.

Yes, sometimes electricity bills, banks are their requests, it's very annoying, my friend. But I have gambled on many sites, some of which do not ask for proof of payment documents or bills, only our documents such as identity.

Yes, KYC is very troublesome, especially for gambling, being asked for KYC is certainly annoying because here we are looking for pleasure in the sense of relieving stress after working all day.

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Quote from: hd49728 on January 10, 2025, 10:31:09 PM

Because you knew well about KYC, its risk and you managed your deposit value not too big, you are really affordable to give it up if a platform requests you to do KYC at a level that is unacceptable with you. It's good as you don't believe in any platform, and don't naively think that problems never come with your account and money.

As you know, gamblers never read a casino's terms and conditions. Most of the time, gamblers sign up without even reading a single line. So, I may sign up at a casino that does not accept players from my country, but let me sign up. In this case, if they ask for a KYC and I have already won something significant, there is nothing I can do except accept my mistakes.

The only thing I can do is, contact them and ask if it is okay to return my deposit. Even if they seize my funds, I don't think I can do anything. Because it was my fault that I did not read their terms and conditions page.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on January 10, 2025, 09:56:45 AM

I did not submit my bank statement or my utility bills to any of the casinos so far. So, I don't know if utility bills have more chance of getting the verification failed. So far, I have completed KYC in two or three casinos and all of them are just NID and phone number verification. As you may know, each casino hs their different ways of verification and some levels of verifications.

I guess I have completed the level one or level KYC so far. No casinos asked for level three or four since my deposit is not big, nor my winnings are. As I said, it will depend on the amount. If it's over a few thousand dollars, I may consider completing higher levels verifictions.

Because you knew well about KYC, its risk and you managed your deposit value not too big, you are really affordable to give it up if a platform requests you to do KYC at a level that is unacceptable with you. It's good as you don't believe in any platform, and don't naively think that problems never come with your account and money.

Your approach is different than many people, who don't know importance of privacy and don't know danger of KYC as well as ignore risk of losing money because of failed KYC. They even deposit big value but just think everything will be well with or without KYC from the platform in future.

Why KYC is extremely dangerous – and useless

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Quote from: logfiles on January 09, 2025, 04:37:17 PM

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Well if they need the address verification then that can be fulfilled with the national ID card number or the driving license too as they would also contain the gambler's address.

The National ID or Driver's license may not be enough to verify proof of address. My national ID could say I stay in a certain region/province or district in a country, yet I moved or shifted a long time away from that place.

The country where I live, we have 5-year validity for ID cards and Driving licenses, so yes, you are right someone may have change his address and it may not be reflected on documents for few years.

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Quote from: virasog on January 09, 2025, 11:35:35 AM

While Utility bills confirm the address perfectly, but sometime if the gambler is living in a rented home, then the utility bill may not contain his name. Also usually the utility bill may come in someone else name, like the father or guardian, so in that case it may be difficult for the gambler to get address proof through Utility bills.

This is where the bank statement comes in. Firstly, in most cases, they need bank statements that are not less than 3 months old and those statements usually contain the address of your local bank from which you generated them.

Bank statement are better option than the utility bills because even if you are living in a rented house, the bank statement will be in your own name. But i don't think the casino needs to do so deep level verifications unless they suspect any serious money laundering issues. Shocked

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Quote from: logfiles on January 09, 2025, 04:37:17 PM

Quote from: virasog on January 09, 2025, 11:35:35 AM

Well if they need the address verification then that can be fulfilled with the national ID card number or the driving license too as they would also contain the gambler's address.

The National ID or Driver's license may not be enough to verify proof of address. My national ID could say I stay in a certain region/province or district in a country, yet I moved or shifted a long time away from that place.

True that, this is the reason why except from government ID proof of residency requires bill statement under the name of the owner of the account or a bank statement for the last 3 to 6 months depending on the requirement of the casino. If one don't have, in my country, a local certificate of residency in villages or communes is enough to verify that the person is living in that address.

Quote from: virasog on January 09, 2025, 11:35:35 AM

While Utility bills confirm the address perfectly, but sometime if the gambler is living in a rented home, then the utility bill may not contain his name. Also usually the utility bill may come in someone else name, like the father or guardian, so in that case it may be difficult for the gambler to get address proof through Utility bills.

Other consider a letter of acknowledgment that the person is living at the said address from the person who owns the billing address. I know some companies honor this kind of letter as proof of residency but I am not sure about online casinos.

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Quote from: hd49728 on January 09, 2025, 09:49:50 AM

Utility bills are more convenient and less sensitive like bank statement or other personal documents but with ulitility bills, you will probably have higher failed chance than with other documents after the verification process.

I did not submit my bank statement or my utility bills to any of the casinos so far. So, I don't know if utility bills have more chance of getting the verification failed. So far, I have completed KYC in two or three casinos and all of them are just NID and phone number verification. As you may know, each casino hs their different ways of verification and some levels of verifications.

I guess I have completed the level one or level KYC so far. No casinos asked for level three or four since my deposit is not big, nor my winnings are. As I said, it will depend on the amount. If it's over a few thousand dollars, I may consider completing higher levels verifictions.

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Quote from: logfiles on January 07, 2025, 04:46:51 PM

Quite surprising given that the country I believe is well-known for their popular football style or even street football. So I would assume there are so many football fanatics over there translating to more gamblers, but I guess it all comes to just how strict the government regulations are toward gambling/betting.

In my Country, betting became so popular that the Government just decided to impose some heavy taxes on it instead of completely banning it.

yeah mate, as incredible as it may seem, football is the most popular and favorite sport among the population in all states of the country. We've a soccer culture and encouragement for the sport (not from the government!) Unfortunately, some brazilian clubs aren't well managed and there is some corruption, which is why some teams stand out more than others.

And of course, this is reflected a lot in sports betting, there are people even betting at work, it's crazy.

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Quote from: virasog on January 09, 2025, 11:35:35 AM

Well if they need the address verification then that can be fulfilled with the national ID card number or the driving license too as they would also contain the gambler's address.

The National ID or Driver's license may not be enough to verify proof of address. My national ID could say I stay in a certain region/province or district in a country, yet I moved or shifted a long time away from that place.

Quote from: virasog on January 09, 2025, 11:35:35 AM

While Utility bills confirm the address perfectly, but sometime if the gambler is living in a rented home, then the utility bill may not contain his name. Also usually the utility bill may come in someone else name, like the father or guardian, so in that case it may be difficult for the gambler to get address proof through Utility bills.

This is where the bank statement comes in. Firstly, in most cases, they need bank statements that are not less than 3 months old and those statements usually contain the address of your local bank from which you generated them.

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about some crypto casinos asking for Bank account statements, I honestly can't understand some crypto casinos, there are crypto casinos where people don't have the option of depositing money through bank accounts or debit cards, but the casino asks for Bank account statements at the time of KYC, I don't understand how Bank account statements would be useful to identify the origin of the funds since the crypto casino doesn't accept bank deposits and only accepts deposits in cryptocurrency. In my opinion, there are many crypto casinos that exaggerate a lot in the KYC documents they keep asking for.

I agree with logfiles. They do not ask for a bank statement for source of funds verification, but they ask for a verified address. If I am not wrong, some casinos accept another type of verification, such as utility bills, instead of bank statements. These documents contain too much personal information that I usually do not want to share with any platform.

I would choose utility bills instead of bank statements. But if a casino does not accept utility bills and they need my bank statement, I probably won't go for it if the amount is not good enough. As I said before, I may consider it only if I hit something significant.

Well if they need the address verification then that can be fulfilled with the national ID card number or the driving license too as they would also contain the gambler's address.

While Utility bills confirm the address perfectly, but sometime if the gambler is living in a rented home, then the utility bill may not contain his name. Also usually the utility bill may come in someone else name, like the father or guardian, so in that case it may be difficult for the gambler to get address proof through Utility bills.

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