[Boxing] Daniel Jacobs vs. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.

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I though that JCC Jr have change Grin

, he have done it again, quitting like he will be killed when he want to continue fighting lol.

His career is over and he is a big disgrace to his father.

Locking this thread now and thank you guys for your comments and analysis, special mention to Baofeng who never give this spoiled brat a chance to win this fight lol.

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Jacobs has the most higher pecentage of knocking out the opponent however the experience inside the ring is in the side of Chavez. In addition their age are just close thus, they still have the capacity of fighting stamina with their age but if we were to look upon the background they got both the reputation of boxing champion as they both have touched the belt. It would be quite tough to choose, but I'll go with Jacobs as he got more knocking out power over Chavez.

. Are you really a boxing fan? I'll go with your bet, Lol. The fight is over dude, Jacobs won already.

I'm calling @bisdak40 to lock this topic before it became a spam fest.

Before this thread gets lock I just want to post that both fighters has no chance to beat the current middleweight champion and I believe the undisputed one Canelo Alvarez, and also believe Chavez career is over it's hard to attract fights to a fighter who is now known as a quitter, and besides he avoid drug testing.

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Quote from: aioc on December 22, 2019, 01:28:42 AM

I also notice when it comes to big fights he hard time adjusting winning, like on his fight with Martinez, Alvarez and now Jacobs, he is still young but I wonder where will his career goes after this, he cannot win a match where it matters most, it's time to reinvent himself.

He can't simply reinvent himself at this point of his career. Although there are interview of him saying that the wanted to get back again, but he need time to heal his broken nose and several stitches on his face. But I seriously doubt, he always feel short with high level boxers like you mentioned and he will not be an elite type of boxer. Well, he can fight again for the money and that's it. But to become a world champion, he doesn't have the discipline or the X factor.

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Quote from: aioc on December 22, 2019, 01:28:42 AM

I also notice when it comes to big fights he hard time adjusting winning, like on his fight with Martinez, Alvarez and now Jacobs, he is still young but I wonder where will his career goes after this, he cannot win a match where it matters most, it's time to reinvent himself.

he has no career in boxing,for all those he have shown the fans and the over expectations from him?i believe better he change course and leave the Boxing ring because i believe that he doesn't belong there.

since he is from a family of sportsman then he may find another place to have ventures in life.

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I also notice when it comes to big fights he hard time adjusting winning, like on his fight with Martinez, Alvarez and now Jacobs, he is still young but I wonder where will his career goes after this, he cannot win a match where it matters most, it's time to reinvent himself.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on December 21, 2019, 01:30:52 PM

He should quit boxing, it is obvious that his mind is not in it and it is also very clear that his last name has proven to be too big for him, he's never going to leave up to the expectations that the fans have of him, and if anything he is now giving a bad reputation to the Chavez last name.

i think it is not only the Mind in which wasnt on him but the "Heart" op being boxer,we have seen too many Fighters that even if they were being knockdown still they are eager to stand up and fight and even those who has big cuts still wanted to stand and fight but this one?a damn quitter,a LOSER.

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However if people keep paying to see him and he earns a good amount of money each time that he fights then I do not know if he's going to give up boxing so easily when he is rewarded so handsomely for so little effort.

i think this will be the last time for him to have a break,the first time he did this is tolerable but the second time around?i don't think there is enough explanation for this.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 21, 2019, 08:54:35 AM

Second time it happen again for Chavez Jr. he gave up again in his corner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftgl1zAqGB4 he is throwing big punches until he says he don't want anymore must be the cut or the the hands, but one thing for sure fans don't like the way it ended, they think they have been short changed.

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Too bad I wasn't able to see it, although as I have said before, Chavez Jr breaks down easily and totally quit when the grind gets tougher. As fans we wanted to get our money's worth, so watching him quitting? He will get too much hatred for doing that and probably he is done.

He should quit boxing, it is obvious that his mind is not in it and it is also very clear that his last name has proven to be too big for him, he's never going to leave up to the expectations that the fans have of him, and if anything he is now giving a bad reputation to the Chavez last name.

However if people keep paying to see him and he earns a good amount of money each time that he fights then I do not know if he's going to give up boxing so easily when he is rewarded so handsomely for so little effort.

He cannot just use his father name and people will keep on interested to follow his matches. This trend will end if his losing trend continues. Winning should be the main motive in the gambling rather than only earning money.

He is not simply using his father's name. He has the name from his father. That is something beyond his control. He's under a very large shadow of the legendary old man blanketing over him. Unfortunately, he's got only the name from his father, not the boxing prowess.

And it is not only Chavez Jr. that tricks the boxing fans here; everyone in the promotions is involved. This quitter should start to realize that he's not anymore fit inside the ring.

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Second time it happen again for Chavez Jr. he gave up again in his corner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftgl1zAqGB4 he is throwing big punches until he says he don't want anymore must be the cut or the the hands, but one thing for sure fans don't like the way it ended, they think they have been short changed.

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Too bad I wasn't able to see it, although as I have said before, Chavez Jr breaks down easily and totally quit when the grind gets tougher. As fans we wanted to get our money's worth, so watching him quitting? He will get too much hatred for doing that and probably he is done.

He should quit boxing, it is obvious that his mind is not in it and it is also very clear that his last name has proven to be too big for him, he's never going to leave up to the expectations that the fans have of him, and if anything he is now giving a bad reputation to the Chavez last name.

However if people keep paying to see him and he earns a good amount of money each time that he fights then I do not know if he's going to give up boxing so easily when he is rewarded so handsomely for so little effort.

He cannot just use his father name and people will keep on interested to follow his matches. This trend will end if his losing trend continues. Winning should be the main motive in the gambling rather than only earning money.

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Quote from: aioc on December 21, 2019, 07:02:46 PM

No he didn't won the match he quit, even if a fighter is leading on points by a mile

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What do you mean? He lost the match already by quitting.

I know he lost the match. It was just the typo mistake which I have corrected it now. Chavez Jr. wouldn't survive much in this boxing world if he did not improve himself and stop his habit of quitting.

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Quote from: virasog on December 21, 2019, 01:06:23 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 14, 2019, 03:50:03 AM

Odds in Sportsbet had it Jacobs (1.04), Chavez Jr. (8.60)

Cesar Chavez Jr did won the match and it was obvious seeing the odds which heavily favors the Jacobs. Chavez Jr. still need to reform himself and a lot of practice to beat big players. If anyone had bet on Chavez with the hope of upset he would have 8 times the invested amount if the upset would have happened.

No he didn't won the match he quit, even if a fighter is leading on points by a mile I don't think I can see him won the fight if he quits the match, i also think that Chavez Jr. is leading the match but very disappointed that he quits the match so no way he can call him a winner.

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Quote from: virasog on December 21, 2019, 01:06:23 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 14, 2019, 03:50:03 AM

Odds in Sportsbet had it Jacobs (1.04), Chavez Jr. (8.60)

Cesar Chavez Jr did won the match and it was obvious seeing the odds which heavily favors the Jacobs. Chavez Jr. still need to reform himself and a lot of practice to beat big players. If anyone had bet on Chavez with the hope of upset he would have 8 times the invested amount if the upset would have happened.

What do you mean? He lost the match already by quitting. If he don't know how to protect himself inside the ring then definitely he should stop from boxing. Of course his father will defend him, but the way I see it, he was behind the scorecard so I don't know how he can win the fight. Probably he just wanted an easy way out.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 21, 2019, 08:54:35 AM

Second time it happen again for Chavez Jr. he gave up again in his corner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftgl1zAqGB4 he is throwing big punches until he says he don't want anymore must be the cut or the the hands, but one thing for sure fans don't like the way it ended, they think they have been short changed.

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Too bad I wasn't able to see it, although as I have said before, Chavez Jr breaks down easily and totally quit when the grind gets tougher. As fans we wanted to get our money's worth, so watching him quitting? He will get too much hatred for doing that and probably he is done.

He should quit boxing, it is obvious that his mind is not in it and it is also very clear that his last name has proven to be too big for him, he's never going to leave up to the expectations that the fans have of him, and if anything he is now giving a bad reputation to the Chavez last name.

However if people keep paying to see him and he earns a good amount of money each time that he fights then I do not know if he's going to give up boxing so easily when he is rewarded so handsomely for so little effort.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 14, 2019, 03:50:03 AM

Odds in Sportsbet had it Jacobs (1.04), Chavez Jr. (8.60)

Cesar Chavez Jr did ~~won~~ loss the match and it was obvious seeing the odds which heavily favors the Jacobs. Chavez Jr. still need to reform himself and a lot of practice to beat big players. If anyone had bet on Chavez with the hope of upset he would have 8 times the invested amount if the upset would have happened.

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Quote from: Baofeng on December 21, 2019, 10:48:57 AM

So he quit and then blame Jacobs for dirty tactics? I haven't watch the fight, but he quit from his stool, no if's, no buts. He did came to the fight fully hydrated and Jacobs said that he felt the punch of a cruiserweight. This could be the end of the road for Jr.

https://www.boxingscene.com/daniel-jacobs-wins-by-tko-five-chavez-jr-results--145316

https://twitter.com/Jcchavez115/status/1208267660711972864

With all due respect to the fans of Phoenix, Arizona: Now I disagree with you, my son was making a competitive fight and was winning, unfortunately a header and an elbow comes and he has a broken nose and will now undergo surgery.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on December 14, 2019, 08:25:30 PM

I likely think that Daniel Jacobs had a huge advantage in winning this for sure because I think this fight was in favor of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. career and I think it is arranged to save his downward loop career, but I think the kid will have a hard time in fighting Jacobs because of the many accusations on Chavez is using steroids but that is not really proven the most notable in his issues was his appetite with partying that most people really think known to everyone,

Right, he would rather party all night than train hard, the only thing that made him famous is because he is the son of the legendary Julio Cezar Chavez Sr. Complete contrast, his son didn't live up to the name of his father.

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I guess that Chavez wants to return to the spotlight and aiming to get himself back to the good books well let us give him an opportunity but Daniel Jacobs is pretty much offering a fight because I think this will not be an easy feat to achieve.

But it could be too late because he chooses to fight Daniel, he should cherry pick someone before looking for big names like Jacobs.

Using steroid is a risky factor while training in boxing. It depends on Chavez Jr. if he will train well because it can affect his performance. Most especially, endurance and strength will come out when the fight is too long. Maybe that will help Daniel Jacobs win when Julio Cesar passes out. It is better to train without using some chemicals or something that is a drug or medicine.

Just train hard because that is the key, for example Manny Pacquiao didn't use any drugs like steroids. He just train hard, improve his focus, determined and working hard juts for him to dominate his rivals. Now he's a legend. Imagine that.

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So he quit and then blame Jacobs for dirty tactics? I haven't watch the fight, but he quit from his stool, no if's, no buts. He did came to the fight fully hydrated and Jacobs said that he felt the punch of a cruiserweight. This could be the end of the road for Jr and will be known as a quitter.

https://www.boxingscene.com/daniel-jacobs-wins-by-tko-five-chavez-jr-results--145316

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Quote from: Soots on December 21, 2019, 09:11:51 AM

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Second time it happen again for Chavez Jr. he gave up again in his corner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftgl1zAqGB4 he is throwing big punches until he says he don't want anymore must be the cut or the the hands, but one thing for sure fans don't like the way it ended, they think they have been short changed.

There could be serious reason for Chavez decision on giving up, maybe it's for his physical condition. At first the fans might not be amaze on that situation, eventually they'll realize it was for his safety. We will have to accept defeat for our favorite fighter, and even with popular boxers like Pacquiao also experienced losing on his fights.

I have seen the video, have you seen the disappointment in the eyes of Chavez Sr?, you really can't compare father and son Chavez Jr was born rich and spoiled Chavez Sr. comes from a poor family and he is one hungry fighter in his time, I wonder what would be the future of Chavez Jr. now, it's better for him to quit.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 21, 2019, 08:54:35 AM

Second time it happen again for Chavez Jr. he gave up again in his corner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftgl1zAqGB4 he is throwing big punches until he says he don't want anymore must be the cut or the the hands, but one thing for sure fans don't like the way it ended, they think they have been short changed.

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Too bad I wasn't able to see it, although as I have said before, Chavez Jr breaks down easily and totally quit when the grind gets tougher. As fans we wanted to get our money's worth, so watching him quitting? He will get too much hatred for doing that and probably he is done.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 21, 2019, 08:54:35 AM

Second time it happen again for Chavez Jr. he gave up again in his corner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftgl1zAqGB4 he is throwing big punches until he says he don't want anymore must be the cut or the the hands, but one thing for sure fans don't like the way it ended, they think they have been short changed.

There could be serious reason for Chavez decision on giving up, maybe it's for his physical condition. At first the fans might not be amaze on that situation, eventually they'll realize it was for his safety. We will have to accept defeat for our favorite fighter, and even with popular boxers like Pacquiao also experienced losing on his fights.

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