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Second time it happen again for Chavez Jr. he gave up again in his corner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftgl1zAqGB4 he is throwing big punches until he says he don't want anymore must be the cut or the the hands, but one thing for sure fans don't like the way it ended, they think they have been short changed.
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Boxing records update for these two great boxers.
Both boxers have their 3 losses but Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. got more wins compare to Daniel Jacobs.
I'm a little bit curios why odds is favor on Daniel Jacobs even Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. got more wins, (probably, homecourt advantage)
but their reach and height(1cm difference) are the same.
Stats wise then we can say that Chavez is on advantage yet his more experienced than Jacobs but if we do talk about KO percentage then its clear that Jacob do have that punching power.
Try to look on most youtube videos about Chavez where you do able to see the hate anywhere.I dont know why.

Well, the story goes something like this:

[1] Chavez Jr had a big fight ahead of him, it was against Sergio "Sexy" Martinez. So in their HBO special 24 x 7, as far as I can remember, he didn't train that hard and was too lazy to even go to the gym and put up the hard training with Freddie Roach. That time Roach denied it was the case, but when they went on separate ways, he confirmed it.

[2] During his prime, some fights missed the contractual weight for his fight.


[3] He was found using cannabis after the Sergio Martinez and diuretics.

He lazy, doesn't have his legendary father's attitude, disrespecting boxing events by not meeting the agreeable weight, and cheater. So that sums up the hatred that Chavez Jr is getting even from Mexican fans.
Thanks for clarifying and saving me up some time on doing searches yet this one really got me curios about this matter and after you have
tell the story then now i can say that people would definitely hate up this kind of attitude or acts towards on upcoming fight - so i cant blame about the hate is all about.

So what he would possibly do this time? he might be overweight ones again.  Grin Ill go to opposite way this time so basically choosing Jacobs on this one.

We can't really tell until we see the final weigh in. So in paper he might be doing good at hiding his weight, but the official weigh in will surely exposed him. Jacobs is the obvious favourite, so I can't argue with you choosing Jacobs against Chavez Jr. Grin
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Was wondering though if there are contractual obligations for JCC Jr to pay money if he didn't make the weight? I remember that time when he faced Canelo, it was included in the contract because JCC Jr has the notoriety of not making weights.  Grin

That picture though that @bisdak40 posted, it seems he overdo this time.  Grin and he looks like drain as hell.
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Have you notice something in JJC Jr's face? He got a jawline which means that he is training hard for this fight as what coach Freddie Roach have said also. We can't deny that this guy is a spoiled brat but somehow i'm betting for him to win this weekend, 8x money return is just tempting for me though  Grin.

BTW, on the 3 losses that JCC Jr had, he has not lose via knock-out which means that this guy can take a punch also.

Yeah, looks like Jr is really training hard for this fight against Jacobs. Maybe he was inspired by Canelo, who is now the "boxer of Mexico", well he lost to him, but I'm sure that they have plans for Jr to fight Canelo in the future of the money. That's also one thing I've noticed about him, he has a solid chin and can take punches.
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Boxing records update for these two great boxers.
Both boxers have their 3 losses but Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. got more wins compare to Daniel Jacobs.
I'm a little bit curios why odds is favor on Daniel Jacobs even Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. got more wins, (probably, homecourt advantage)
but their reach and height(1cm difference) are the same.
Stats wise then we can say that Chavez is on advantage yet his more experienced than Jacobs but if we do talk about KO percentage then its clear that Jacob do have that punching power.
Try to look on most youtube videos about Chavez where you do able to see the hate anywhere.I dont know why.

Well, the story goes something like this:

[1] Chavez Jr had a big fight ahead of him, it was against Sergio "Sexy" Martinez. So in their HBO special 24 x 7, as far as I can remember, he didn't train that hard and was too lazy to even go to the gym and put up the hard training with Freddie Roach. That time Roach denied it was the case, but when they went on separate ways, he confirmed it.

[2] During his prime, some fights missed the contractual weight for his fight.


[3] He was found using cannabis after the Sergio Martinez and diuretics.

He lazy, doesn't have his legendary father's attitude, disrespecting boxing events by not meeting the agreeable weight, and cheater. So that sums up the hatred that Chavez Jr is getting even from Mexican fans.
Thanks for clarifying and saving me up some time on doing searches yet this one really got me curios about this matter and after you have
tell the story then now i can say that people would definitely hate up this kind of attitude or acts towards on upcoming fight - so i cant blame about the hate is all about.

So what he would possibly do this time? he might be overweight ones again.  Grin Ill go to opposite way this time so basically choosing Jacobs on this one.
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Have you notice something in JJC Jr's face? He got a jawline which means that he is training hard for this fight as what coach Freddie Roach have said also. We can't deny that this guy is a spoiled brat but somehow i'm betting for him to win this weekend, 8x money return is just tempting for me though  Grin.

BTW, on the 3 losses that JCC Jr had, he has not lose via knock-out which means that this guy can take a punch also.
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Date:  December 20, 2019
Venue: Talking Stick Resort Arena in Phoenix, Arizona

Daniel Jacobs and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. will clash next week in a Super-Middleweight fight. This would be Daniel Jacobs debut in the Super-Middleweight division if i'm not mistaken. What intrigue me most in this fight is the odds. Daniel Jacobs is the heavy favorite to win this fight but i think Chavez Jr. has the tools to beat him.

Odds in Sportsbet had it Jacobs (1.04), Chavez Jr. (8.60)

To those who love underdogs, what do you think of this fight?

 

The odds are way too far in favor of Jacobs. Anyways, JCC Jr fight against Canelo was a disappointment for the boxing fans. I mean he doesn't have what it takes to fight in the ring but still he was given big fights. The odds says it all and I don't think JCC Jr has a chance in this fight.
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He lazy, doesn't have his legendary father's attitude, disrespecting boxing events by not meeting the agreeable weight, and cheater. So that sums up the hatred that Chavez Jr is getting even from Mexican fans.

You also need to add that he was pampered throughout his career, and spoiled by his father.

He has all the tools, a decent boxer with a chance to get to the next level as his father, but chooses not to because he was brat. He had worked with some of the best trainers and sports doctor and yet he didn't achieved greatness and wasn't able to control his weight and chooses to used a steroids.
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Boxing records update for these two great boxers.
Both boxers have their 3 losses but Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. got more wins compare to Daniel Jacobs.
I'm a little bit curios why odds is favor on Daniel Jacobs even Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. got more wins, (probably, homecourt advantage)
but their reach and height(1cm difference) are the same.
Stats wise then we can say that Chavez is on advantage yet his more experienced than Jacobs but if we do talk about KO percentage then its clear that Jacob do have that punching power.
Try to look on most youtube videos about Chavez where you do able to see the hate anywhere.I dont know why.

Well, the story goes something like this:

[1] Chavez Jr had a big fight ahead of him, it was against Sergio "Sexy" Martinez. So in their HBO special 24 x 7, as far as I can remember, he didn't train that hard and was too lazy to even go to the gym and put up the hard training with Freddie Roach. That time Roach denied it was the case, but when they went on separate ways, he confirmed it.

[2] During his prime, some fights missed the contractual weight for his fight.


[3] He was found using cannabis after the Sergio Martinez and diuretics.

He is lazy, doesn't have his legendary father's attitude, disrespecting boxing events by not meeting the agreeable weight, and cheater. So that sums up the hatred that Chavez Jr is getting even from Mexican fans.
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Boxing records update for these two great boxers.
Both boxers have their 3 losses but Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. got more wins compare to Daniel Jacobs.
I'm a little bit curios why odds is favor on Daniel Jacobs even Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. got more wins, (probably, homecourt advantage)
but their reach and height(1cm difference) are the same.
Stats wise then we can say that Chavez is on advantage yet his more experienced than Jacobs but if we do talk about KO percentage then its clear that Jacob do have that punching power.
Try to look on most youtube videos about Chavez where you do able to see the hate anywhere.I dont know why.
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I likely think that Daniel Jacobs had a huge advantage in winning this for sure because I think this fight was in favor of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. career and I think it is arranged to save his downward loop career, but I think the kid will have a hard time in fighting Jacobs because of the many accusations on Chavez is using steroids but that is not really proven the most notable in his issues was his appetite with partying that most people really think known to everyone,

Right, he would rather party all night than train hard, the only thing that made him famous is because he is the son of the legendary Julio Cezar Chavez Sr. Complete contrast, his son didn't live up to the name of his father.

I guess that Chavez wants to return to the spotlight and aiming to get himself back to the good books well let us give him an opportunity but Daniel Jacobs is pretty much offering a fight because I think this will not be an easy feat to achieve.

But it could be too late because he chooses to fight Daniel, he should cherry pick someone before looking for big names like Jacobs.
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Boxing records update for these two great boxers.
Both boxers have their 3 losses but Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. got more wins compare to Daniel Jacobs.
I'm a little bit curios why odds is favor on Daniel Jacobs even Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. got more wins, (probably, homecourt advantage)
but their reach and height(1cm difference) are the same.
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It's boxing, and from what I've seen, Chavez Jr, has what it takes to be a champion again, the problem is that he is somewhat lazy. But since Roach take him back and train him because he made a promise that he is no longer the same person, I would give Chavez Jr here a puncher's chance against Daniel Jacobs. Very attractive odds for those who want to go for the underdogs.

You've got a point there mate, Chavez Jr doesn't have a heart of a champion like his father maybe because he does not experience poverty because he is a son of a boxing legend which provided them with there daily needs.

If you have followed the career of JCC Jr, almost all of his fights were carefully chosen so that he will look good in the ring  Smiley, they were cherry picking back then. In fairness to him, he got the moves and laterals of a good boxer so i think he got a chance to win this fight.

The odds is really tempting, that's why i ask your thoughts about this fight.

Right, I'm sure that his father is very disappointment on how Jr career's turn out. Yes, odds are tempting, might be a good idea to bet on the underdog here.

@YuginKadoya - as far as I can remember, the illegal substance that was found on his system is a diuretics, some form of ban substance for weight control. And with all the partying he had and with no diet system in his side, no wonder why he needed it.
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I likely think that Daniel Jacobs had a huge advantage in winning this for sure because I think this fight was in favor of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. career and I think it is arranged to save his downward loop career, but I think the kid will have a hard time in fighting Jacobs because of the many accusations on Chavez is using steroids but that is not really proven the most notable in his issues was his appetite with partying that most people really think known to everyone,

I guess that Chavez wants to return to the spotlight and aiming to get himself back to the good books well let us give him an opportunity but Daniel Jacobs is pretty much offering a fight because I think this will not be an easy feat to achieve.
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It's boxing, and from what I've seen, Chavez Jr, has what it takes to be a champion again, the problem is that he is somewhat lazy. But since Roach take him back and train him because he made a promise that he is no longer the same person, I would give Chavez Jr here a puncher's chance against Daniel Jacobs. Very attractive odds for those who want to go for the underdogs.

You've got a point there mate, Chavez Jr doesn't have a heart of a champion like his father maybe because he does not experience poverty because he is a son of a boxing legend which provided them with there daily needs.

If you have followed the career of JCC Jr, almost all of his fights were carefully chosen so that he will look good in the ring  Smiley, they were cherry picking back then. In fairness to him, he got the moves and laterals of a good boxer so i think he got a chance to win this fight.

The odds is really tempting, that's why i ask your thoughts about this fight.

The motivation of JCC Jr is not as strong as his father. Maybe true. But the likelihood that Jacobs will win this one is quite high in my opinion. Still interesting to watch what's gonna be like inside the ring though...
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If you have followed the career of JCC Jr, almost all of his fights were carefully chosen so that he will look good in the ring  Smiley, they were cherry picking back then. In fairness to him, he got the moves and laterals of a good boxer so i think he got a chance to win this fight.


Exactly, been following him for years myself and he just padded his stats with tomato can fighters  Smiley.

And as soon as he face Canelo, it's over for him, he was really eating punches that's why I totally lost all my hype on JCC Jr back then. And now him fighting a decent fighter as Daniel Jacobs is, I don't think he has a chance.
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It's boxing, and from what I've seen, Chavez Jr, has what it takes to be a champion again, the problem is that he is somewhat lazy. But since Roach take him back and train him because he made a promise that he is no longer the same person, I would give Chavez Jr here a puncher's chance against Daniel Jacobs. Very attractive odds for those who want to go for the underdogs.

You've got a point there mate, Chavez Jr doesn't have a heart of a champion like his father maybe because he does not experience poverty because he is a son of a boxing legend which provided them with there daily needs.

If you have followed the career of JCC Jr, almost all of his fights were carefully chosen so that he will look good in the ring  Smiley, they were cherry picking back then. In fairness to him, he got the moves and laterals of a good boxer so i think he got a chance to win this fight.

The odds is really tempting, that's why i ask your thoughts about this fight.
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Chavez Jr. is the underdog for a reason, Daniel Jacobs is a beast. The odds of approx 20:1 seem about right to me.

I'm not a person that would bet on an underdog unless I knew something other people don't.

It would need to be a miracle for Chavez to win this fight.
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It's boxing, and from what I've seen, Chavez Jr, has what it takes to be a champion again, the problem is that he is somewhat lazy. But since Roach take him back and train him because he made a promise that he is no longer the same person, I would give Chavez Jr here a puncher's chance against Daniel Jacobs. Very attractive odds for those who want to go for the underdogs.
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Nah, I think JCC Jr is done, there are reports that in this previous fight, he doesn't train that hard and doesn't have the mentality of his father. So I say that the odds for Daniel Jacobs is about right, and it could be an easy fight for him. Besides, JCC Jr, is no longer at his prime, probably just wanted to get a decent pay check before finally retiring.

I will be favoring Daniel Jacobs in this fight.
Chavez Jr does not even rank in the top 15 players. Most of us don't know that he is the son of the Mexican legend Julio Cesar but he does not look to be of same talent of his father. I really doubt if he can win against Jacobs.

The old Chavez never backs down until the last seconds of the fight I have watched his fight against Taylor several times and it's an inspiration for many boxers to never give up imagine Taylor was ahead on points, then boom he caught Taylor with a wicked right in the last round with 17 seconds to go, we can't see that in Chavez junior he doesn't have the heart to go toe to toe, the old Chavez is way ahead of his Junior.








 

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