^^ If that is his plan then it will take years for him to fight Morrell. So just imagine what Benavidez will feel if Morrell got the first crack on Canelo after Canelo beat the young Jaime Munguia, hehehe, that will really hurt David.
But for now, David Benavidez should focus on this fight, he should really impress us, not just us but his Excellency Turki Alalshikh as he has promised already that he will have a crack at the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and the fight will be in the Middle East.
Topic: [Boxing] David Benavidez vs. Olexandr Gvozdyk interim WBC Championship (Read 236 times)
April 30, 2024, 04:13:05 PM
April 30, 2024, 05:23:37 AM
Canelo has a lot in his table before he retires, his rematch or even a Benavidez fight. But it seems that he is not interested as of now. Because it was reported that after this fight, his next will be against another young fighter in Berlanga.
Cherry-picking at its finest, he chooses young guys who are not yet considered top-level fighters instead of fighting Morell or Benavidez if he keeps doing this on his next 3 or 4 fights people will not become interested in going and buying tickets to see him watch, because there's no challenge anymore it's like usual business.
Speaking of Morrell though, why not Benavidez fight him for the belt? Instead of going up in 175 lbs?
The '80s and '90s fighters or the golden era in boxing, where boxers would check and fight the next best guy for money and legacy and if he could not see it in his division he would go up and conquer territories, he could not go to the next level or the light heavyweight division because he already tasted defeat and he wants to protect his reputation
I agree 100%, although we might not like what Don King and Bob Arum has done to some of the boxers in that era money wise, but they were pure business man, sitting down and then let the best fight the best. Now we have boxers being protected and doesn't want to lose like Tank Davis. It's a different era now, everyone is being protected by their managers, promoters or even governing bodies like the corrupt WBC.
I read that Benavidez says that he will fight Morell once he unified all the belts, so let's see. There are a lot of his plate right now, just this morning, I re-watch the Caleb Plant fight of him and he really was too big for 168 lbs in my opinion. Although Caleb has no power, he hit Benavidez in that fight and David keeps coming back for me and throw some of his power punch as well. So this is going to be exciting to see how he will do at LHW division and I think this is his division base on his height and weight as well. He doesn't have to drain himself. But who knows, if he indeed unify at 175 lbs, he will stay in this division as he might have a hard time going and draining himself to 168 lbs to fight Morell.
April 27, 2024, 07:06:16 PM
Canelo has a lot in his table before he retires, his rematch or even a Benavidez fight. But it seems that he is not interested as of now. Because it was reported that after this fight, his next will be against another young fighter in Berlanga.
Cherry-picking at its finest, he chooses young guys who are not yet considered top-level fighters instead of fighting Morell or Benavidez if he keeps doing this on his next 3 or 4 fights people will not become interested in going and buying tickets to see him watch, because there's no challenge anymore it's like usual business.
Speaking of Morrell though, why not Benavidez fight him for the belt? Instead of going up in 175 lbs?
The '80s and '90s fighters or the golden era in boxing, where boxers would check and fight the next best guy for money and legacy and if he could not see it in his division he would go up and conquer territories, he could not go to the next level or the light heavyweight division because he already tasted defeat and he wants to protect his reputation
I agree 100%, although we might not like what Don King and Bob Arum has done to some of the boxers in that era money wise, but they were pure business man, sitting down and then let the best fight the best. Now we have boxers being protected and doesn't want to lose like Tank Davis. It's a different era now, everyone is being protected by their managers, promoters or even governing bodies like the corrupt WBC.
April 27, 2024, 01:04:00 PM
Canelo has a lot in his table before he retires, his rematch or even a Benavidez fight. But it seems that he is not interested as of now. Because it was reported that after this fight, his next will be against another young fighter in Berlanga.
Cherry-picking at its finest, he chooses young guys who are not yet considered top-level fighters instead of fighting Morell or Benavidez if he keeps doing this on his next 3 or 4 fights people will not become interested in going and buying tickets to see him watch, because there's no challenge anymore it's like usual business.
The '80s and '90s fighters or the golden era in boxing, where boxers would check and fight the next best guy for money and legacy and if he could not see it in his division he would go up and conquer territories, he could not go to the next level or the light heavyweight division because he already tasted defeat and he wants to protect his reputation
April 27, 2024, 08:47:08 AM
Whoever will lose in the fight Beterbiev vs Bivol I guess Canelo will face? Canelo vs Bivol 2 would actually be good so Canelo can regain back that loss. Beterbiev though old, that guy is still massive.
Canelo would want that, he was talking about rematch with Bivol when he loss but it seems he isn't serious with it. Now, for sure he will consider fighing the loser of this fight as that would be favorable for him, and in terms of selling the fight, it's not a problem anymore as Canelo is very popular.
He want's it at 168 lbs, which initially Bivol doesn't want to. But later Bivol said that he is willing to go down to 168 lbs, however, he had a fight already and won. And then this unification which is bigger than a Canelo fight in terms of magnitude and of course the support of HE Turki Alalshikh. Now considered the most powerful of brokers in boxing.
A Bivol vs Canelo II would be interesting to watch, and I can already see what would happen next, if Canelo will even the outcome like beating Bivol in a rematch, there could be a possible trilogy, which will create more hype in the career of Canelo, just a smart strategy in case he'll bite that.
Canelo has a lot in his table before he retires, his rematch or even a Benavidez fight. But it seems that he is not interested as of now. Because it was reported that after this fight, his next will be against another young fighter in Berlanga.
For sure, there are a couple of fights left in Canelo and the two fights that we wanted to see is him against Bivol in a rematch or in his final fight to go after Benavidez and to silence all his critics that he duck David and avoid him at all cost.
As we have seen in Benavidez, he no longer look for Canelo to fight him this year. He has moved up to 175 lbs and looking for the winner of Beterbiev vs Bivol fight.
And the ball is up to Canelo and his manager, Benavidez is just waiting for Canelo maybe up till next year.
April 23, 2024, 06:21:55 PM
Whoever will lose in the fight Beterbiev vs Bivol I guess Canelo will face? Canelo vs Bivol 2 would actually be good so Canelo can regain back that loss. Beterbiev though old, that guy is still massive.
Canelo would want that, he was talking about rematch with Bivol when he loss but it seems he isn't serious with it. Now, for sure he will consider fighing the loser of this fight as that would be favorable for him, and in terms of selling the fight, it's not a problem anymore as Canelo is very popular.
He want's it at 168 lbs, which initially Bivol doesn't want to. But later Bivol said that he is willing to go down to 168 lbs, however, he had a fight already and won. And then this unification which is bigger than a Canelo fight in terms of magnitude and of course the support of HE Turki Alalshikh. Now considered the most powerful of brokers in boxing.
A Bivol vs Canelo II would be interesting to watch, and I can already see what would happen next, if Canelo will even the outcome like beating Bivol in a rematch, there could be a possible trilogy, which will create more hype in the career of Canelo, just a smart strategy in case he'll bite that.
Canelo has a lot in his table before he retires, his rematch or even a Benavidez fight. But it seems that he is not interested as of now. Because it was reported that after this fight, his next will be against another young fighter in Berlanga.
April 23, 2024, 05:23:19 PM
Whoever will lose in the fight Beterbiev vs Bivol I guess Canelo will face? Canelo vs Bivol 2 would actually be good so Canelo can regain back that loss. Beterbiev though old, that guy is still massive.
Canelo would want that, he was talking about rematch with Bivol when he loss but it seems he isn't serious with it. Now, for sure he will consider fighing the loser of this fight as that would be favorable for him, and in terms of selling the fight, it's not a problem anymore as Canelo is very popular.
A Bivol vs Canelo II would be interesting to watch, and I can already see what would happen next, if Canelo will even the outcome like beating Bivol in a rematch, there could be a possible trilogy, which will create more hype in the career of Canelo, just a smart strategy in case he'll bite that.
I'm not really sure if Canelo wanted to test the 175 lbs again after what Bivol has done to him. He is still the A-side, and so if ever either Bivol or Beterbiev or Benavidez wants Canelo, it could be in a catch-weight.
In any case, having Bivol, Benavidez and Benavidez at light heavy weight is already huge for this division. But the thing is the money is still with Canelo, however, with the involvement of Saudi Arabia, this 3 might fight it out against each other and Canelo will be left at his comfortable super middle weight class without fighting any of the big names in light heavy.
April 22, 2024, 11:45:12 AM
Whoever will lose in the fight Beterbiev vs Bivol I guess Canelo will face? Canelo vs Bivol 2 would actually be good so Canelo can regain back that loss. Beterbiev though old, that guy is still massive.
Canelo would want that, he was talking about rematch with Bivol when he loss but it seems he isn't serious with it. Now, for sure he will consider fighing the loser of this fight as that would be favorable for him, and in terms of selling the fight, it's not a problem anymore as Canelo is very popular.
A Bivol vs Canelo II would be interesting to watch, and I can already see what would happen next, if Canelo will even the outcome like beating Bivol in a rematch, there could be a possible trilogy, which will create more hype in the career of Canelo, just a smart strategy in case he'll bite that.
April 22, 2024, 10:52:47 AM
That should be the main goal of Benavidez here, to win impressively, knocking out Gvozdyk.
And as we have seen in the last 2 week, Saudi is willing to have Benavidez fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev. He got the attention already and so his request is already on the pipeline by Turki Alalshikh.
The ball is now on the side of Benavidez that he is the one that everyone is talking about, the new Mexican superstar.
The light heavyweight is the best division suited for Benavidez, Canelo will not yield to the demand to fight Benavidez it will cost him a lot, the light heavyweight is ruled by two Russians imagine Benavidez adding to the challenges of ruling the Light heavyweight, Beterbiev, Bivol, and Benavidez are the three superstars that will fight for who will reign in this division.
I expect Benavidez to win this and he should win impressively and he will challenge the winner of the Beterbiev - Bivol match, the Light heavyweight division has become interesting because of the entrance of Benavidez.
Sounds very strategic if Benavidez can wipe the two out and then Canelo comes in to beat him. He tried Bivol and lost which would be a good idea to see if Benavidez can eliminate Bivol from the picture and the old Beterbiev will be the only one they are up to beat.
Whoever will lose in the fight Beterbiev vs Bivol I guess Canelo will face? Canelo vs Bivol 2 would actually be good so Canelo can regain back that loss. Beterbiev though old, that guy is still massive.
April 22, 2024, 10:38:31 AM
That should be the main goal of Benavidez here, to win impressively, knocking out Gvozdyk.
And as we have seen in the last 2 week, Saudi is willing to have Benavidez fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev. He got the attention already and so his request is already on the pipeline by Turki Alalshikh.
The ball is now on the side of Benavidez that he is the one that everyone is talking about, the new Mexican superstar.
The light heavyweight is the best division suited for Benavidez, Canelo will not yield to the demand to fight Benavidez it will cost him a lot, the light heavyweight is ruled by two Russians imagine Benavidez adding to the challenges of ruling the Light heavyweight, Beterbiev, Bivol, and Benavidez are the three superstars that will fight for who will reign in this division.
I expect Benavidez to win this and he should win impressively and he will challenge the winner of the Beterbiev - Bivol match, the Light heavyweight division has become interesting because of the entrance of Benavidez.
April 22, 2024, 08:25:16 AM
Gvozdyk was the GOAT of the light heavyweight before Beterbiev took away the crown by knocking him out in the 10th round, this is a good fight for Benavidez I don't want to call this a tune or a consolation fight because Gvozdyk can still fight and poised a huge challenge for Benavidez.
Benavidez must win impressively so he can call out the winner of the Bivol - Berterbiev match, this will gauge Beterbiev's power if he can take it from Super Middleweight to the Light Heavyweight, Canelo will continue to duck him so he makes the right decision on going up and conquer other territories.
Benavidez must win impressively so he can call out the winner of the Bivol - Berterbiev match, this will gauge Beterbiev's power if he can take it from Super Middleweight to the Light Heavyweight, Canelo will continue to duck him so he makes the right decision on going up and conquer other territories.
That should be the main goal of Benavidez here, to win impressively, knocking out Gvozdyk.
And as we have seen in the last 2 week, Saudi is willing to have Benavidez fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev. He got the attention already and so his request is already on the pipeline by Turki Alalshikh.
The ball is now on the side of Benavidez that he is the one that everyone is talking about, the new Mexican superstar.
April 21, 2024, 11:46:55 AM
I think Benavidez can defeat Gvozdyk in a few rounds without issues. He looks bigger with his height, he won't need much adjustment but a few lbs only to 175. Who he will be challenging next might just be his greatest challenge whichever of the two.
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Canelo is moving on now, although who he will be fighting is someone from his gym also. Some people are asking what got into him already after evading Benavidez.
The titles and reputation made Canelo a wise businessman he needs to protect his legacy and the flow of money, he comes a long way to waste it by risking it against a guy who has a chance to beat him. 
April 21, 2024, 10:53:42 AM
Gvozdyk was the GOAT of the light heavyweight before Beterbiev took away the crown by knocking him out in the 10th round, this is a good fight for Benavidez I don't want to call this a tune or a consolation fight because Gvozdyk can still fight and poised a huge challenge for Benavidez.
Benavidez must win impressively so he can call out the winner of the Bivol - Berterbiev match, this will gauge Beterbiev's power if he can take it from Super Middleweight to the Light Heavyweight, Canelo will continue to duck him so he makes the right decision on going up and conquer other territories.
Benavidez must win impressively so he can call out the winner of the Bivol - Berterbiev match, this will gauge Beterbiev's power if he can take it from Super Middleweight to the Light Heavyweight, Canelo will continue to duck him so he makes the right decision on going up and conquer other territories.
I think Benavidez can defeat Gvozdyk in a few rounds without issues. He looks bigger with his height, he won't need much adjustment but a few lbs only to 175. Who he will be challenging next might just be his greatest challenge whichever of the two.
Canelo is moving on now, although who he will be fighting is someone from his gym also. Some people are asking what got into him already after evading Benavidez.
April 21, 2024, 10:07:03 AM
Gvozdyk was the GOAT of the light heavyweight before Beterbiev took away the crown by knocking him out in the 10th round, this is a good fight for Benavidez I don't want to call this a tune or a consolation fight because Gvozdyk can still fight and poised a huge challenge for Benavidez.
Benavidez must win impressively so he can call out the winner of the Bivol - Berterbiev match, this will gauge Beterbiev's power if he can take it from Super Middleweight to the Light Heavyweight, Canelo will continue to duck him so he makes the right decision on going up and conquer other territories.
Benavidez must win impressively so he can call out the winner of the Bivol - Berterbiev match, this will gauge Beterbiev's power if he can take it from Super Middleweight to the Light Heavyweight, Canelo will continue to duck him so he makes the right decision on going up and conquer other territories.
April 20, 2024, 09:10:47 PM
And the date of this fight will be June 22, co-headline for Tank Davis vs Frank Martin fight.
At least it's a good undercard as we will have both superstars headlining this fight. Nothing has chance though, Benavidez is still a huge favorite in this fight. And the date is still good, ample time for him to train instead of just going on Twitter and focusing on Canelo.
He will be there as Mexican for Cinco-de-Mayo event and most likely going to watch Canelo vs Munguia.
At least it's a good undercard as we will have both superstars headlining this fight. Nothing has chance though, Benavidez is still a huge favorite in this fight. And the date is still good, ample time for him to train instead of just going on Twitter and focusing on Canelo.
He will be there as Mexican for Cinco-de-Mayo event and most likely going to watch Canelo vs Munguia.
March 02, 2024, 03:34:01 AM
PBC will release Canelo if he ducks Benavidez but it was said also Canelo is to fight Munguia soon or Edgar Berlanga as Hearn said.
Benavidez is going to weigh himself for LW, it's his fight time and fighting a hard hitter such as Gvozdyk will also be risky for him and it's not sure if it's going to sell PPV. this is final?
because Canelo refuses, Benavidez has to move on as waiting seems not an option for him. it's a big step up for Benavidez's career and i think he can beat Gvozdyk given that the fight will be in Sept.
It's less risk for Benavidez here, yes Gvozdyk could be consider as a knock out artist, but he hasn't face a boxer like Benavidez who has all the physical advantage over him. And the age gap though, a young and motivated fighter like Benavidez might be enough as he is looking for the next fight, against the winner of the Beterbiev against Bivol fight. So this is for unification fight and that could cemented his legacy. He said that he is going to chase his own for now as Canelo Alvarez doesn't want to give him that fight even if for the minimum and Canelo getting the major portion of the split. But still Canelo is bent on his reasoning of not wanting to fight another Mexican, so be it. Benavidez is going to weigh himself for LW, it's his fight time and fighting a hard hitter such as Gvozdyk will also be risky for him and it's not sure if it's going to sell PPV. this is final?
because Canelo refuses, Benavidez has to move on as waiting seems not an option for him. it's a big step up for Benavidez's career and i think he can beat Gvozdyk given that the fight will be in Sept.
March 01, 2024, 06:37:33 PM
This is what we call a contingency fight for Benavidez, OP also had this thread: [Boxing] Beterbiev vs. Bivol - Undisputed Light Heavyweight Championship. So what I'm seeing here is to best option for David Benavidez.
1. This fight could be treated as a get busy fight for him and a very winnable fight if no Canelo. But if Canelo wants to fight him next then this fight could be scrap right away
2. Win this fight and challenge the winner of Beterbiev vs. Bivol
3. If David Benavidez wins this fight, he can still go down in weight for a mega fight with his target Canelo Alvarez
So this is a brilliant move by his Father Benavidez Sr.
1. This fight could be treated as a get busy fight for him and a very winnable fight if no Canelo. But if Canelo wants to fight him next then this fight could be scrap right away
2. Win this fight and challenge the winner of Beterbiev vs. Bivol
3. If David Benavidez wins this fight, he can still go down in weight for a mega fight with his target Canelo Alvarez
So this is a brilliant move by his Father Benavidez Sr.
This got me thinking, let's say Benavidez won in this fight and then challenge the Beterbiev vs Bivol winner, in case that he lost that fight, can he still get the fight that he wanted? Against Canelo Alvarez, or will Alvarez again hide and make excuse that Benavidez doesn't deserve the fight because he lost to this X fighter. Benavidez though said that he is willing to receive the bare minimum of $5 million just to be able to fight Canelo, but the deal maker is the network that will cover the fight, However, Sampson Lewkowicz promoter of Benavidez’s promoter wanted it to be on Amazon Prime PPV.
There are no odds yet for this fight in our favorite sport bookies, but I will assume and I think majority will agree that Benavidez will like be a favorite here by a huge margin. I'm seeing Olexandr Gvozdyk to be 6:1 or even at 7:1 underdog here initially.
February 23, 2024, 06:12:19 PM
Now, Benavidez will be facing Oleksandr Gvozdyk who has a high KO rate. Hopefully after this it will be Canelo next, if he wins.
Indeed, the only loss of Gvozdyk is from Beterbiev and we know that Beterbiev is an excellent KO puncher with a perfect KO record of 20/20. but the thing is Gvozdyk is a bit past his prime so I think the younger Benavidez may win the fight.
Aging boxer may prolong their prime by rigid training and proper diet, I don't know what preparation Gvozdyk is planning to keep up with the tempo of the younger Benavidez.
Yes, for those who haven't followed this division, maybe except for Beterbiev and Bivol, Olexandr Gvozdyk is no name. But if you will have to check the rankings for the Light HW, he is amongst in the top 10, even recognizing as high as #2. So he has his resume and fair share of winnings in this division.
Gvozdyk's record is impressive having 21 fights, 16 of them won by knockout and 1 defeat from Beterbiev, it would be an exciting fight if Gvozdyk is still in the prime but at age 36, the guy had probably lost some of his quickness, punching power and speed.
But as pointed out by everyone, his age could be a big factor. Although Beterbiev is also old by our standards, he is undefeated and he game Olexandr Gvozdyk that L as well. So I still consider this a big test for Benavidez, new division and he might not have the height and reach advantage when he campaigns at 168 lbs and maybe this is his true weight class after all. And Benavidez is very young, and I do agree that he can go down to Super MW anytime if the fight against Canelo is open for him.
I agree that the 1 inch-longer reach of Gvozdyk won't give him the advantage unless he perfectly reads the strategy and movement of Benavidez.
February 23, 2024, 05:30:14 PM
Not an interesting fight but worthy opponent for Benavidez to further continue his domination until they no longer had a choice but to let him fight Canelo. But on the other hand, Canelo wants to avoid him until maybe they find some fault in his boxing skills. This is what happening in the boxing sport nowadays because when they lose to some worthy opponent and they are not that popular, they are meant to lose their popularity as well until they are given a chance to take a fight against another champion. that's why they are so afraid to lose nowadays unlike before when such things don't really matter as long as they fighting someone capable of beating them as well. They like to be challenged with stronger opponents in the past.
Yes, for those who haven't followed this division, maybe except for Beterbiev and Bivol, Olexandr Gvozdyk is no name. But if you will have to check the rankings for the Light HW, he is amongst in the top 10, even recognizing as high as #2. So he has his resume and fair share of winnings in this division. But as pointed out by everyone, his age could be a big factor. Although Beterbiev is also old by our standards, he is undefeated and he game Olexandr Gvozdyk that L as well. So I still consider this a big test for Benavidez, new division and he might not have the height and reach advantage when he campaigns at 168 lbs and maybe this is his true weight class after all. And Benavidez is very young, and I do agree that he can go down to Super MW anytime if the fight against Canelo is open for him.
February 23, 2024, 05:09:22 PM
Not an interesting fight but worthy opponent for Benavidez to further continue his domination until they no longer had a choice but to let him fight Canelo. But on the other hand, Canelo wants to avoid him until maybe they find some fault in his boxing skills. This is what happening in the boxing sport nowadays because when they lose to some worthy opponent and they are not that popular, they are meant to lose their popularity as well until they are given a chance to take a fight against another champion. that's why they are so afraid to lose nowadays unlike before when such things don't really matter as long as they fighting someone capable of beating them as well. They like to be challenged with stronger opponents in the past.
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