[Boxing]: Eimantas Stanionis vs Vergil Ortiz Jr - July 8 - page 2.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 19, 2023, 01:07:44 AM

Here is Vergil Ortiz highlights, knock out of all of his opponents,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSzeQzgLfI

Obviously, you can see and even hear the power when it touches his opponents whether on face or in the body. The way he punch them though in the body is very different, it's like a straight right, not the one that we usually show like a left hook to the body. And I think the straight might be more devastating because his opponents will usually take a knee and can't get up in time.

I agree Ortiz is kind of scary in how he delivers his knockout punches I already posted Stanionis will be tested here because he has not faced someone like Ortiz, Stanionis can deliver an upset why not, but for him to get that upset he'll have to go through a lot of pain and take a lot of risks.
Vergil is the top guy to beat in the welterweight he should be in the spotlight because of his style and power, there are a lot of existing fights to consider in the welterweight division if only promoters will agree to let them fight the best in that division, hopefully, this year we'll see an Ennis - Ortiz- Crawford- Spence fights for the undisputed king of welterweight.

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Quote from: Viscore on February 19, 2023, 06:05:24 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 19, 2023, 01:07:44 AM

Here is Vergil Ortiz highlights, knock out of all of his opponents,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSzeQzgLfI

Obviously, you can see and even hear the power when it touches his opponents whether on face or in the body. The way he punch them though in the body is very different, it's like a straight right, not the one that we usually show like a left hook to the body. And I think the straight might be more devastating because his opponents will usually take a knee and can't get up in time.

That is why Ortiz Jr is considered to be a dangerous opponent and that is obviously seen from his performances inside the ring. Once he starts giving his powerful punch, he won’t stop punching his opponent until he knock him down. And that’s why Stanionis should learn how to defend himself more, otherwise, his opponent will leave him losing his consciousness because of Ortiz Jr hard punch.

I've also watched previous matches of Ortiz and I could say that he's aggressive and his punches are stronger than the viewer's expectations. He always throw punches surely and solidly.
Once he caught his opponent's weakness, he will constantly hit and punch with all his might and that's what Stanionis should be careful about. He needs to be technical and strategic in learning how to have a strong defense against Ortiz or else it will be another good record added to Ortiz.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 19, 2023, 01:07:44 AM

Here is Vergil Ortiz highlights, knock out of all of his opponents,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSzeQzgLfI

Obviously, you can see and even hear the power when it touches his opponents whether on face or in the body. The way he punch them though in the body is very different, it's like a straight right, not the one that we usually show like a left hook to the body. And I think the straight might be more devastating because his opponents will usually take a knee and can't get up in time.

That is why Ortiz Jr is considered to be a dangerous opponent and that is obviously seen from his performances inside the ring. Once he starts giving his powerful punch, he won’t stop punching his opponent until he knock him down. And that’s why Stanionis should learn how to defend himself more, otherwise his opponent will leave him losing his consciousness because of Ortiz Jr hard punch.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 19, 2023, 01:07:44 AM

Here is Vergil Ortiz highlights, knock out of all of his opponents,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSzeQzgLfI

Obviously, you can see and even hear the power when it touches his opponents whether on face or in the body. The way he punch them though in the body is very different, it's like a straight right, not the one that we usually show like a left hook to the body. And I think the straight might be more devastating because his opponents will usually take a knee and can't get up in time.

It's a great combination from Ortiz that's why he is very dangerous opponent for Stanionis. And Ortiz former trainer, Robert Garcia is all praises for Vergil and he knows too much the skills and the power that this kid possesses and he says that Ortiz is too strong for Stanionis.

Stanionis knows this and could prepare himself 100%.

And it will take a lot from him, watching Ortiz fight and see if there is any loophole that he can see and exploit in order to be able to win.

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Here is Vergil Ortiz highlights, knock out of all of his opponents,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSzeQzgLfI

Obviously, you can see and even hear the power when it touches his opponents whether on face or in the body. The way he punch them though in the body is very different, it's like a straight right, not the one that we usually show like a left hook to the body. And I think the straight might be more devastating because his opponents will usually take a knee and can't get up in time.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 14, 2023, 08:30:29 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 14, 2023, 08:06:30 AM

This will be a good fight, it's obvious majority will think Ortiz Jr will win via KO, but I think taking risk to bet Stanionis win via decision isn't a bad idea.

Both Stanionis and Ortiz Jr have been fought an undefeated boxer, Ortiz Jr completely win since he was knocking out Michael McKinson while Stanionis he win via split decision against Radzhab Butaev. But I think the judge who score favor in Butaev is really robbed, Stanionis should win via unanimous decision.

Ortiz Jr might go hard on this one against the champion and see who he is made of. But Stanionis is very durable, and the odds doesn't really reflect how how he is, specially a knockout artist like Ortiz Jr.

Why not? the Stanionis is a huge underdog and betting for him might be a good risk.

But I wouldn't be surprised if Stanionis will go down in this fight, he might survived but Ortiz Jr punching power will put a toll on Stanionis, specially if Vergil will mix it up, head and body power punches.

I have seen both Stanionis and Ortiz Jr performance but I must say my vote for this fight will be for Ortiz Jr as aside that he might be the crowd’s favorite, the brutality of his shots might put down and defeat his opponent just like what he did to McKinson inside the ring. If Stanionis will not improve his performance, most likely he will be defeated by Ortiz Jr during the fight.

Ortiz is a scary fighter and that's why we heard his name against two of the divisions best, Spence and Crawford. But at least he has his way against Stanionis. If he win they he can call out either of the two boxers for a fight.

But Stanionis looks solid though, he might have a tough chin that Ortiz need to check how strong it is. Same with Stanionis, for sure he is looking to defend his belt by any means so this is really a solid fight for us.

And looking at the votes so far, all in favor of Ortiz by KO over Stanionis.

But as the saying goes, don't understand the heart of the champion, and so even if Ortiz is a KO artist, Stanionis himself has also a good knockout percentage and most likely he will want to score a KO too in this fight. But for him to win against Ortiz, it's going to be old way, just box Ortiz and make him uncomfortable by pressures and fighting in the middle of the ring.

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Quote from: Finestream on February 17, 2023, 07:20:06 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on February 14, 2023, 08:30:29 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 14, 2023, 08:06:30 AM

This will be a good fight, it's obvious majority will think Ortiz Jr will win via KO, but I think taking risk to bet Stanionis win via decision isn't a bad idea.

Both Stanionis and Ortiz Jr have been fought an undefeated boxer, Ortiz Jr completely win since he was knocking out Michael McKinson while Stanionis he win via split decision against Radzhab Butaev. But I think the judge who score favor in Butaev is really robbed, Stanionis should win via unanimous decision.

Ortiz Jr might go hard on this one against the champion and see who he is made of. But Stanionis is very durable, and the odds doesn't really reflect how how he is, specially a knockout artist like Ortiz Jr.

Why not? the Stanionis is a huge underdog and betting for him might be a good risk.

But I wouldn't be surprised if Stanionis will go down in this fight, he might survived but Ortiz Jr punching power will put a toll on Stanionis, specially if Vergil will mix it up, head and body power punches.

I have seen both Stanionis and Ortiz Jr performance but I must say my vote for this fight will be for Ortiz Jr as aside that he might be the crowd’s favorite, the brutality of his shots might put down and defeat his opponent just like what he did to McKinson inside the ring. If Stanionis will not improve his performance, most likely he will be defeated by Ortiz Jr during the fight.

Ortiz is a scary fighter and that's why we heard his name against two of the divisions best, Spence and Crawford. But at least he has his way against Stanionis. If he win they he can call out either of the two boxers for a fight.

But Stanionis looks solid though, he might have a tough chin that Ortiz need to check how strong it is. Same with Stanionis, for sure he is looking to defend his belt by any means so this is really a solid fight for us.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 14, 2023, 08:30:29 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 14, 2023, 08:06:30 AM

This will be a good fight, it's obvious majority will think Ortiz Jr will win via KO, but I think taking risk to bet Stanionis win via decision isn't a bad idea.

Both Stanionis and Ortiz Jr have been fought an undefeated boxer, Ortiz Jr completely win since he was knocking out Michael McKinson while Stanionis he win via split decision against Radzhab Butaev. But I think the judge who score favor in Butaev is really robbed, Stanionis should win via unanimous decision.

Ortiz Jr might go hard on this one against the champion and see who he is made of. But Stanionis is very durable, and the odds doesn't really reflect how how he is, specially a knockout artist like Ortiz Jr.

Why not? the Stanionis is a huge underdog and betting for him might be a good risk.

But I wouldn't be surprised if Stanionis will go down in this fight, he might survived but Ortiz Jr punching power will put a toll on Stanionis, specially if Vergil will mix it up, head and body power punches.

I have seen both Stanionis and Ortiz Jr performance but I must say my vote for this fight will be for Ortiz Jr as aside that he might be the crowd’s favorite, the brutality of his shots might put down and defeat his opponent just like what he did to McKinson inside the ring. If Stanionis will not improve his performance, most likely he will be defeated by Ortiz Jr during the fight.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 14, 2023, 08:06:30 AM

This will be a good fight, it's obvious majority will think Ortiz Jr will win via KO, but I think taking risk to bet Stanionis win via decision isn't a bad idea.

Both Stanionis and Ortiz Jr have been fought an undefeated boxer, Ortiz Jr completely win since he was knocking out Michael McKinson while Stanionis he win via split decision against Radzhab Butaev. But I think the judge who score favor in Butaev is really robbed, Stanionis should win via unanimous decision.

I like to contradict your opinion anyway it's good for the flow of discussion if there are contradictions, the knockout ratio is just too high 60% and 70% respectively on the two fighters, these two are not running in a fight they love to engage and slug it out.

I see one of them going down, and I don't see Ortiz the one going down although I'm not ruling out the possibility that Stationis can score an upset he can always deliver, but Ortiz knows the weight of this fight and he wants to look impressive in the eyes of the boxing community and this is that fight.
I admire your taking the risk to bet on Stationis with a decision I have to respect your choice so good luck.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 06:52:47 PM

I expect this to be war, Stanionis with 60% KO ratio, against Ortiz Jr, 100%. Both are undefeated as well.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/791796 - Stanionis
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/766727 - Ortiz Jr

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I expect not only war but an explosion of punches Stanionis has a good record but Ortiz Jr is just too awesome he is the only boxer I've known to have a 100% knock-out ratio he is an almost perfect boxer, with great defense with good timing in his punches he is poised to become the next champion.
The welterweight division houses some of the best punchers and Ortiz is one of the fighters that stands out, he should be challenging for the World title I hope it will happen after he disposes of Stanionis, Stanionis is also good but Ortiz Jr is just too good for him.

To see how good Ortiz's defense and offense check the highlight of some of his fights

Quote from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSzeQzgLfI

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 14, 2023, 08:06:30 AM

This will be a good fight, it's obvious majority will think Ortiz Jr will win via KO, but I think taking risk to bet Stanionis win via decision isn't a bad idea.

Both Stanionis and Ortiz Jr have been fought an undefeated boxer, Ortiz Jr completely win since he was knocking out Michael McKinson while Stanionis he win via split decision against Radzhab Butaev. But I think the judge who score favor in Butaev is really robbed, Stanionis should win via unanimous decision.

Ortiz Jr might go hard on this one against the champion and see who he is made of. But Stanionis is very durable, and the odds doesn't really reflect how how he is, specially a knockout artist like Ortiz Jr.

Why not? the Stanionis is a huge underdog and betting for him might be a good risk.

But I wouldn't be surprised if Stanionis will go down in this fight, he might survived but Ortiz Jr punching power will put a toll on Stanionis, specially if Vergil will mix it up, head and body power punches.

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Quote from: robelneo on February 14, 2023, 06:16:57 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 14, 2023, 05:37:28 PM

Quote from: cabron on February 14, 2023, 01:23:48 PM

They are fighting for World Title?

Eimantas Stanionis as I have said hold the Regular title. So yes, this fight is for the WBC welterweight regular belt as Vergil is the number 1 rank boxer in this organization.

Quote from: cabron on February 14, 2023, 01:23:48 PM

Both of them are KO artist but Stanus (14-0, 9 KOs), Golden boy left out Boots when he is a better match for Ortiz. Stanionis power is nothing compare to Ortiz. That alone will already make him the underdog and with speed and overall reach advantage, Ortiz will dominate the fight giving Stan no chance.

This fight has been scheduled already, Boots is not yet rank though, so we will see. He is also a up and coming fighter, soon though he will be given the chance to fight for a world title but this two deserved this fight. Stanionis has beaten rank 3 Radzhab Butaev by split decision as explain by @Jawhead999. And the super champion, Spence, will fight rank 2 Thurman, although there is no belt on the line/

This has the making of a great fight honestly I have not seen Stanionis fight before I have to take time to watch highlights of his fight and this guy can deliver knockouts but against Ortiz, he will be tested

Stanionis has a good defense and perfectly time punches based on what I see on his highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X16b0_Gd-xM these two fighters have potential especially Ortiz and this fight is a climb-the-ladder match the winner will take the title and become a threat to both Spence and Thurman supremacy in that division.

Thanks for the link, yes, maybe majority of us here are not familiar with Stanionis, but he is the WBC champion and so he should be a good boxer. Ortiz has been climbing up the ladder and his name has been in the discussion for a Spence fight but for now it's not going to happen.

If he beat Stanionis here, he could be the next for Spence belt. And the odds shows that he is the betting favorite and so he should be live up to that expectations.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 14, 2023, 05:37:28 PM

Quote from: cabron on February 14, 2023, 01:23:48 PM

They are fighting for World Title?

Eimantas Stanionis as I have said hold the Regular title. So yes, this fight is for the WBC welterweight regular belt as Vergil is the number 1 rank boxer in this organization.

Quote from: cabron on February 14, 2023, 01:23:48 PM

Both of them are KO artist but Stanus (14-0, 9 KOs), Golden boy left out Boots when he is a better match for Ortiz. Stanionis power is nothing compare to Ortiz. That alone will already make him the underdog and with speed and overall reach advantage, Ortiz will dominate the fight giving Stan no chance.

This fight has been scheduled already, Boots is not yet rank though, so we will see. He is also a up and coming fighter, soon though he will be given the chance to fight for a world title but this two deserved this fight. Stanionis has beaten rank 3 Radzhab Butaev by split decision as explain by @Jawhead999. And the super champion, Spence, will fight rank 2 Thurman, although there is no belt on the line/

This has the making of a great fight honestly I have not seen Stanionis fight before I have to take time to watch highlights of his fight and this guy can deliver knockouts but against Ortiz, he will be tested

Stanionis has a good defense and perfectly time punches based on what I see on his highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X16b0_Gd-xM these two fighters have potential especially Ortiz and this fight is a climb-the-ladder match the winner will take the title and become a threat to both Spence and Thurman supremacy in that division.

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Quote from: cabron on February 14, 2023, 01:23:48 PM

They are fighting for World Title?

Eimantas Stanionis as I have said hold the Regular title. So yes, this fight is for the WBC welterweight regular belt as Vergil is the number 1 rank boxer in this organization.

Quote from: cabron on February 14, 2023, 01:23:48 PM

Both of them are KO artist but Stanus (14-0, 9 KOs), Golden boy left out Boots when he is a better match for Ortiz. Stanionis power is nothing compare to Ortiz. That alone will already make him the underdog and with speed and overall reach advantage, Ortiz will dominate the fight giving Stan no chance.

This fight has been scheduled already, Boots is not yet rank though, so we will see. He is also a up and coming fighter, soon though he will be given the chance to fight for a world title but this two deserved this fight. Stanionis has beaten rank 3 Radzhab Butaev by split decision as explain by @Jawhead999. And the super champion, Spence, will fight rank 2 Thurman, although there is no belt on the line/

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They are fighting for World Title?

Both of them are KO artist but Stanus (14-0, 9 KOs), Golden boy left out Boots when he is a better match for Ortiz. Stanionis power is nothing compare to Ortiz. That alone will already make him the underdog and with speed and overall reach advantage, Ortiz will dominate the fight giving Stan no chance.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 14, 2023, 08:06:30 AM

This will be a good fight, it's obvious majority will think Ortiz Jr will win via KO, but I think taking risk to bet Stanionis win via decision isn't a bad idea.

Both Stanionis and Ortiz Jr have been fought an undefeated boxer, Ortiz Jr completely win since he was knocking out Michael McKinson while Stanionis he win via split decision against Radzhab Butaev. But I think the judge who score favor in Butaev is really robbed, Stanionis should win via unanimous decision.

I do agree, Stanionis style is very misleading at least, and Ortiz shouldn't underestimate him in this fight and shouldn't just rely on his power alone. This is a step up on boxers that he has fought.

On the other hand, this is an avenue for Ortiz to show his talent, we have been hearing his name a lot in this division and that he is supposedly the new breed that will take over this division from either Spence or Crawford and that this two champions are avoiding him.

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This will be a good fight, it's obvious majority will think Ortiz Jr will win via KO, but I think taking risk to bet Stanionis win via decision isn't a bad idea.

Both Stanionis and Ortiz Jr have been fought an undefeated boxer, Ortiz Jr completely win since he was knocking out Michael McKinson while Stanionis he win via split decision against Radzhab Butaev. But I think the judge who score favor in Butaev is really robbed, Stanionis should win via unanimous decision.

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Let me be the first to comment on this one, this is a dangerous fight for Stanionis, no doubt that Ortiz Jr has the power based on his record of 100% ratio. But I think if Eimantas will have a good strategy to counter Ortiz and his chin holds against the power, he has a good chance to win, and win it on the judges score card. Both are motivated though, and I agree that this might go on a back and forth war and could be the first big welterweight fight this year. Spence vs Thurman is at 154 lbs, so that is not a real welterweight fight and even there are no belts on the line.

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Finally, we have a new schedule for this fight, it was originally headlines for March 18. However, Stanionis had to go to go for Emergency Appendectomy Surgery.

Stanionis holds the regular WBA welterweight belt, but Spence has the "Super" title. And Spence will have a fight against Thurman and hopefully the winner of that fight will go up against the winner of Stanionis vs Ortiz.

Fight is going to happen at College Park Center in Arlington, Texas.

I expect this to be war, Stanionis with 60% KO ratio, against Ortiz Jr, 100%. Both are undefeated as well.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/791796 - Stanionis
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/766727 - Ortiz Jr

https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/2/13/23598523/eimantas-stanionis-vs-vergil-ortiz-jr-official-april-29-arlington-texas-dazn-boxing-news-2023

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