[BOXING] Estrada vs Chocolatito - Trilogy - Dec 3, 2022 - page 2.

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Is that moved to 4th? At least i can bet that match (Sun, Dec 04 5:00 AM)

My money goes definitely for Chocolatito and i feel confident about it. Just looking at the wins by knockout ratio (75.93%) tells something about the world of pain this guy brings to the ring. There's just too much experience compared to El Gallo and this controversiality happened last time will guarantee that judges will be under microscope and can't afford to play favorites. Not going to be betting my house though as anything can happen. Too bad odds have already dropped to 1.40

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It's fight night today and DAZN is still streaming it live on Youtube lucky to all of us here who are excited to see this fight unfolds its good that DAZN is giving us a free ticket for this fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmmBEu0c414

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So they make the official weigh in for this fight,

Chocolatito - 114.7 lbs
Estrada - 115 lbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYpyCeYhWD8

You can hear fans of both side in this weigh in, everyone is excited on this fight. And we do hope that it will live to the hype just like the 2 others fights they had in the past specially in their first fight.

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I'm not going to bet on his match, but I just want to see who this trilogy will end. Chocolatito was once thought that he is done with boxing when he lost to Estrada. But it seems that he got his second wind, and so after his lost, he was able to get back at his boxing career.

And yeah, this will settle once and for all, that's why I said that I don't like to bet and just want to see how this will end.

Because both are warriors and they will go at it with everything they got, that's for sure.

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And here is the final press conference on this fight, full pressure, and face off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6aB8UR8-Y8

The usual conference between the two, show respect against each other, but really give everything when they both are in the ring.

Estrada is still the favorite on this fight and their rivalry will end in this trilogy.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 28, 2022, 05:04:14 AM

Yes, just sad though that no one in the media is hyping this fight, although this is a trilogy already, but still a good fight to watch.

It looks like the media are after huge names and unblemished boxing records to hype. Besides, it is also possible that this trilogy isn't that attractive since the two boxers are too quiet to hype their own fight. I agree that this one is good to watch considering Chocolatito always wanted to brawl it out. I think this fight will go a distance, it has been proven in their previous two fight when they are much younger and possibly have more strength behind their punches.

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 28, 2022, 05:04:14 AM

When we thought that Chocolatito is done with his career, he comes back again and win that's why they trilogy is possible. And he is the favorite in this fight around 1.45 currently. But this is going to be a close fight just like the 2 fights that they had.

Indeed he will be, he defeated Estrada in their first fight, and the second fight was very controversial and the decision of one judge is too obvious that it clearly takes sides on his judgment.

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 28, 2022, 05:04:14 AM

Estrada though is the younger of the two but Chocolatito can still very well fight and seems to be very hungry.

Estrada needs to prove that he really won the 2nd match against Chocolatito so he has to give everything in order to beat him in this 3rd match.

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Quote from: robelneo on November 28, 2022, 03:28:13 AM

Thanks for bumping this thread there's hardly any news or update on this trilogy I don't see this fight on my sports boxing channels and feeds when this match is worth watching.

Every trilogy has dramas and excitement, and since both their last two fights are close and controversial we will see who will end this trilogy in his favor, both fighters don't have that many fights in their career, especially Chocolatito and I'm sure both of them will go all out on this third fight, I still see Chocolatito winning this fight.

True, it's because of the division that they are, if this is like in the 130 lbs or higher, it could attract a lot of casual boxing fans and sports bettors.

I don't think it has something to do with the division, I believe this has something to do with the promoter. Besides the two boxer also don't do anything to hype their fight. unlike Casimero who loves trash-talking his opponent in order to cater attentions.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 28, 2022, 03:05:05 PM

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 28, 2022, 03:10:19 AM

Bump,

Almost forgot with this fight lol, it's only 1 week before the fight will happen. I've check on the bookies the odds is almost same with the early odds which mean most people are agree Chocolatito deserve to win in the third match, most likely Chocolatito will win via decision.

Quote from: Baofeng on October 30, 2022, 06:26:56 PM

It's just hard to see those ABC belts having, the regular, interim, etc etc on their organization, although Estrada has the WBC ‘Franchise’ title already. And could probably cemented his status as their champion if he wins this fight.

Yeah, in Wikipedia there's no description what type of WBC title that Estrada got, but after I doing some research I find if Jesse Rodriguez is a boxer who have the regular WBC title but he want to comeback to flyweight, so he lose his WBC title on super flyweight.

Thanks for bumping this thread there's hardly any news or update on this trilogy I don't see this fight on my sports boxing channels and feeds when this match is worth watching.

Every trilogy has dramas and excitement, and since both their last two fights are close and controversial we will see who will end this trilogy in his favor, both fighters don't have that many fights in their career, especially Chocolatito and I'm sure both of them will go all out on this third fight, I still see Chocolatito winning this fight.

True, it's because of the division that they are, if this is like in the 130 lbs or higher, it could attract a lot of casual boxing fans and sports bettors.

This is already a trilogy so a lot of things have had happen in the 2 previous fights that they really need a final one to settle as you have said the first 2 are controversial and the judges might score the wrong winner. Nevertheless 1-1 and Chocolatito showing that he can still pull the trigger despite his age.

Yes, although is the the oldest of the two, his experience and his guts will bring him to close the book between this two warriors. Also the votes shows Gonzalez as the favorite by the members here to win.

There is a very good pressure on both boxers here as to who will finally bring home the belt.
Chocolatito is clearly the favorite here as well as on the odds of the bookies.
But don't get too complacent as Estrada may be keeping his training on top of things as he wants to prove, he indeed deserves to snatch the belt.
But let us see if Chocolatito has his power inside the ring. This is really a good trilogy to watch out for.
Some of us really forget this one and it is only few days from now as we will be witnessing another good fight inside the ring.

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Quote from: robelneo on November 28, 2022, 03:28:13 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 28, 2022, 03:10:19 AM

Bump,

Almost forgot with this fight lol, it's only 1 week before the fight will happen. I've check on the bookies the odds is almost same with the early odds which mean most people are agree Chocolatito deserve to win in the third match, most likely Chocolatito will win via decision.

Quote from: Baofeng on October 30, 2022, 06:26:56 PM

It's just hard to see those ABC belts having, the regular, interim, etc etc on their organization, although Estrada has the WBC ‘Franchise’ title already. And could probably cemented his status as their champion if he wins this fight.

Yeah, in Wikipedia there's no description what type of WBC title that Estrada got, but after I doing some research I find if Jesse Rodriguez is a boxer who have the regular WBC title but he want to comeback to flyweight, so he lose his WBC title on super flyweight.

Thanks for bumping this thread there's hardly any news or update on this trilogy I don't see this fight on my sports boxing channels and feeds when this match is worth watching.

Every trilogy has dramas and excitement, and since both their last two fights are close and controversial we will see who will end this trilogy in his favor, both fighters don't have that many fights in their career, especially Chocolatito and I'm sure both of them will go all out on this third fight, I still see Chocolatito winning this fight.

True, it's because of the division that they are, if this is like in the 130 lbs or higher, it could attract a lot of casual boxing fans and sports bettors.

This is already a trilogy so a lot of things have had happen in the 2 previous fights that they really need a final one to settle as you have said the first 2 are controversial and the judges might score the wrong winner. Nevertheless 1-1 and Chocolatito showing that he can still pull the trigger despite his age.

Yes, although is the the oldest of the two, his experience and his guts will bring him to close the book between this two warriors. Also the votes shows Gonzalez as the favorite by the members here to win.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 28, 2022, 03:10:19 AM

Bump,

Almost forgot with this fight lol, it's only 1 week before the fight will happen. I've check on the bookies the odds is almost same with the early odds which mean most people are agree Chocolatito deserve to win in the third match, most likely Chocolatito will win via decision.

Quote from: Baofeng on October 30, 2022, 06:26:56 PM

It's just hard to see those ABC belts having, the regular, interim, etc etc on their organization, although Estrada has the WBC ‘Franchise’ title already. And could probably cemented his status as their champion if he wins this fight.

Yeah, in Wikipedia there's no description what type of WBC title that Estrada got, but after I doing some research I find if Jesse Rodriguez is a boxer who have the regular WBC title but he want to comeback to flyweight, so he lose his WBC title on super flyweight.

I'm still monitoring some news though as far as this fight goes. Yeah, it's because Bam Rodriguez is jumping in weight and now he wants to fight next at 112 lbs.

So as I have described, there are lot of categories are far as the belt goes in today's era. Somewhat confusing as we all know that it should only be one belt champion in every organization but this has change.

And there are no changes in the odds, Chocolatito is still the overwhelming favorite to win.

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Quote from: robelneo on November 28, 2022, 03:28:13 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 28, 2022, 03:10:19 AM

Bump,

Almost forgot with this fight lol, it's only 1 week before the fight will happen. I've check on the bookies the odds is almost same with the early odds which mean most people are agree Chocolatito deserve to win in the third match, most likely Chocolatito will win via decision.

Quote from: Baofeng on October 30, 2022, 06:26:56 PM

It's just hard to see those ABC belts having, the regular, interim, etc etc on their organization, although Estrada has the WBC ‘Franchise’ title already. And could probably cemented his status as their champion if he wins this fight.

Yeah, in Wikipedia there's no description what type of WBC title that Estrada got, but after I doing some research I find if Jesse Rodriguez is a boxer who have the regular WBC title but he want to comeback to flyweight, so he lose his WBC title on super flyweight.

Thanks for bumping this thread there's hardly any news or update on this trilogy I don't see this fight on my sports boxing channels and feeds when this match is worth watching.

Every trilogy has dramas and excitement, and since both their last two fights are close and controversial we will see who will end this trilogy in his favor, both fighters don't have that many fights in their career, especially Chocolatito and I'm sure both of them will go all out on this third fight, I still see Chocolatito winning this fight.

Yes, just sad though that no one in the media is hyping this fight, although this is a trilogy already, but still a good fight to watch.

When we thought that Chocolatito is done with his career, he comes back again and win that's why they trilogy is possible. And he is the favorite in this fight around 1.45 currently. But this is going to be a close fight just like the 2 fights that they had.

Estrada though is the younger of the two but Chocolatito can still very well fight and seems to be very hungry.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on November 28, 2022, 03:10:19 AM

Bump,

Almost forgot with this fight lol, it's only 1 week before the fight will happen. I've check on the bookies the odds is almost same with the early odds which mean most people are agree Chocolatito deserve to win in the third match, most likely Chocolatito will win via decision.

Quote from: Baofeng on October 30, 2022, 06:26:56 PM

It's just hard to see those ABC belts having, the regular, interim, etc etc on their organization, although Estrada has the WBC ‘Franchise’ title already. And could probably cemented his status as their champion if he wins this fight.

Yeah, in Wikipedia there's no description what type of WBC title that Estrada got, but after I doing some research I find if Jesse Rodriguez is a boxer who have the regular WBC title but he want to comeback to flyweight, so he lose his WBC title on super flyweight.

Thanks for bumping this thread there's hardly any news or update on this trilogy I don't see this fight on my sports boxing channels and feeds when this match is worth watching.

Every trilogy has dramas and excitement, and since both their last two fights are close and controversial we will see who will end this trilogy in his favor, both fighters don't have that many fights in their career, especially Chocolatito and I'm sure both of them will go all out on this third fight, I still see Chocolatito winning this fight.

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Bump,

Almost forgot with this fight lol, it's only 1 week before the fight will happen. I've check on the bookies the odds is almost same with the early odds which mean most people are agree Chocolatito deserve to win in the third match, most likely Chocolatito will win via decision.

Quote from: Baofeng on October 30, 2022, 06:26:56 PM

It's just hard to see those ABC belts having, the regular, interim, etc etc on their organization, although Estrada has the WBC ‘Franchise’ title already. And could probably cemented his status as their champion if he wins this fight.

Yeah, in Wikipedia there's no description what type of WBC title that Estrada got, but after I doing some research I find if Jesse Rodriguez is a boxer who have the regular WBC title but he want to comeback to flyweight, so he lose his WBC title on super flyweight.

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Ok, it is now reported that the WBC title will be on the line here as Bam Rodriguez has vacated it. As per WBC's Sulaiman,

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“It will be contested for the WBC title,” WBC president Mauricio Sulaliman informed BoxingScene.com.

https://www.boxingscene.com/estrada-chocolatito-trilogy-clash-come-with-wbc-115-pound-title-stake--170104

It's just hard to see those ABC belts having, the regular, interim, etc etc on their organization, although Estrada has the WBC ‘Franchise’ title already. And could probably cemented his status as their champion if he wins this fight.

And so this could be an added motivation for either of the two to have that title.

But obviously, regardless of what is the title in line here, this is a must watch fight as well for us.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 06, 2022, 07:39:29 AM

Quote from: aioc on October 06, 2022, 07:25:55 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on October 06, 2022, 06:46:25 AM

i'm rooting for Chocolatito to win, I think he is more technical so he will likely win this fight. it's a trilogy that but I'm not so excited on this one as it's not the same as the other trilogy where the fight was really close. Well, I might be wrong, but I see this fight to end up a one sided fight only, that's in favor to Chocolatito.

The majority of us here picked Chocolatito, but it could be a new fight if one of them shows something new here, the first two-fight was dominated by Chocolatito many thought he wins the match, this is what happen the fight was left in the hands of the judges, I have seen so many controversial fights and this one is included, I hope this time they picked the right judges and the winner deserves his win, there could be no fourth fight between the two, they just need to pick the right set of judges

Yeah, there will be no 4th fight if Chocolatito will win this fight, it's better if he could just KO Estrada so judges decision is not anymore necessary. Estrada is a very aggressive fighter, with a great timing, I think Chocolatito could finish him. Lots of good fights this coming December, hopefully I'm wrong with my prediction so somehow could I could enjoy this fight.

But it will be a big task for Chocolatito to knock out Estrada because the latter has a good chin. But if Chocolatito will win here, if might be in the judges score card and then another close fight. Unless Gonzalez show his age in this fight then this could be a dominant win by Estrada.

Still far but hopefully the judges will be fair. This is a high stake fight and for sure the judges that are going to be assigned here should not be biased.

Don't worry about getting your predictions mate, just enjoy the fight because for sure as others put it, this is going to be war.

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Quote from: aioc on October 06, 2022, 07:25:55 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on October 06, 2022, 06:46:25 AM

i'm rooting for Chocolatito to win, I think he is more technical so he will likely win this fight. it's a trilogy that but I'm not so excited on this one as it's not the same as the other trilogy where the fight was really close. Well, I might be wrong, but I see this fight to end up a one sided fight only, that's in favor to Chocolatito.

The majority of us here picked Chocolatito, but it could be a new fight if one of them shows something new here, the first two-fight was dominated by Chocolatito many thought he wins the match, this is what happen the fight was left in the hands of the judges, I have seen so many controversial fights and this one is included, I hope this time they picked the right judges and the winner deserves his win, there could be no fourth fight between the two, they just need to pick the right set of judges

Yeah, there will be no 4th fight if Chocolatito will win this fight, it's better if he could just KO Estrada so judges decision is not anymore necessary. Estrada is a very aggressive fighter, with a great timing, I think Chocolatito could finish him. Lots of good fights this coming December, hopefully I'm wrong with my prediction so somehow could I could enjoy this fight.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on October 06, 2022, 06:46:25 AM

i'm rooting for Chocolatito to win, I think he is more technical so he will likely win this fight. it's a trilogy that but I'm not so excited on this one as it's not the same as the other trilogy where the fight was really close. Well, I might be wrong, but I see this fight to end up a one sided fight only, that's in favor to Chocolatito.

The majority of us here picked Chocolatito, but it could be a new fight if one of them shows something new here, the first two-fight was dominated by Chocolatito many thought he wins the match, this is what happen the fight was left in the hands of the judges, I have seen so many controversial fights and this one is included, I hope this time they picked the right judges and the winner deserves his win, there could be no fourth fight between the two, they just need to pick the right set of judges

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 03, 2022, 02:19:28 PM

And since they have won their previous fight this year if I'm not mistaken, this fight has to take place but I was surprised that they have pushed it before the end of the year.

And so we are again treated with another great fight between this two legends so for sure another 12 rounds of action pack between the two.

This fight is long overdue and i don't know why the promoters of this fight keeps on delaying this, might be Estrada is buying some time to somehow let Gonzales aged a year so that he will be slower now than on their second fight hehe.

Quote from: Baofeng on October 03, 2022, 02:19:28 PM

Just another side note though that Nonito "The Filipino Flash" Donare wants to go down to this weight class. And he is targeting Chocolatito already, but let's see first this great fight and maybe Donaire wil l be just waiting at the side.

Donaire must take a great sacrifice just to make this weight at this stage of his career and if he could and face Chocolatito or Estrada then i think he has the great chance to beat either of the two and make Chocolatito retires. Though he looked old at the hands of Inoue but they should not be overconfident when facing the Filipino Flash as his patented left hook is still fatal when his opponent is not named Inoue.

The last fight of Chocolatito is this March and he won. While Estrada is just this September if I'm not mistaken. And their 2nd bout is December 2021. So it will be exactly just a year prior. And I was talking about Estrada though, because he will have to go back to the gym again after his win just last month. Nevertheless, as we have said, after he won he said he will take the privilege and give Roman his trilogy.

Yes, Donaire will have to go down again, and as also do agree that he has a big chance against those two because of his left hook and the power and the speed as well.

And with that, does it mean that Estrada is the fresher of the two since he just had his last fight in September? Or it doesn't make sense out of it, they should be back to 0 and train as hard as they can?

In any case, Donaire could be their biggest threat and I agree that maybe Estrada will be a good test for him before going against the veteran as well in Chocolatito. But we will wait then, they will face each other first and Donaire just chillin and waiting for the winner.

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i'm rooting for Chocolatito to win, I think he is more technical so he will likely win this fight. it's a trilogy that but I'm not so excited on this one as it's not the same as the other trilogy where the fight was really close. Well, I might be wrong, but I see this fight to end up a one sided fight only, that's in favor to Chocolatito.

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Quote from: aioc on October 06, 2022, 12:55:44 AM

Quote from: yazher on October 06, 2022, 12:04:58 AM

Quote from: robelneo on October 04, 2022, 09:46:26 AM

Chocolatito is the better fighter but judges seem to want to see a trilogy for the promoters to make money if they pick the fight where they left then Chocolatito will have the advantage and the win, Estrada should show something new here, In both fights Chocolatito always gets the better of the exchanges, what I like about the two fighters is their style, they love to engage and stand toe to toe and that's what we are going to see in their third fight.

They should really settle for the last time since Choco is getting old and already passed his prime. Another exciting trilogy we will have this year and this one should also be settled for the fans and both boxers to remove any doubt in their last fights. I think this one will be the best since they both gonna give their best to prove to everyone that they are the best boxer against each other. maybe This time they won't let the judges decide who gonna win and they will gonna wrap it up when they see an opportunity to finish one another.

They say style makes a fight and a trilogy can only happen if we have fighters that compliment each other style, like the Marquez - Pacquiao fights and the boxing community always support trilogies because it the continuation of the excitement of the previous two fights, I'm sure both fighters will show up to fight hopefully one of them will end this trilogy, its a legacy fight for both fighters I hope Chocolatito wins this one, so he can cement his legacy, Estrada can still go on as he is still young.

I think Gonzalez already cemented his legacy in the 115 lbs as he had defeated a lot of great fighters in this division. But it seems he had met his match against a tough Mexican in Estrada. Of course, we will support trilogies as boxing fans, recently we just saw the Canelo vs GGG fight although it seems that GGG is already past his prime as he was dominated by Canelo. But this fight is still 50/50 in my opinion, although Chocolatito seems to the betting favorite, but not going to be easy match for him.

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Quote from: yazher on October 06, 2022, 12:04:58 AM

Quote from: robelneo on October 04, 2022, 09:46:26 AM

Chocolatito is the better fighter but judges seem to want to see a trilogy for the promoters to make money if they pick the fight where they left then Chocolatito will have the advantage and the win, Estrada should show something new here, In both fights Chocolatito always gets the better of the exchanges, what I like about the two fighters is their style, they love to engage and stand toe to toe and that's what we are going to see in their third fight.

They should really settle for the last time since Choco is getting old and already passed his prime. Another exciting trilogy we will have this year and this one should also be settled for the fans and both boxers to remove any doubt in their last fights. I think this one will be the best since they both gonna give their best to prove to everyone that they are the best boxer against each other. maybe This time they won't let the judges decide who gonna win and they will gonna wrap it up when they see an opportunity to finish one another.

They say style makes a fight and a trilogy can only happen if we have fighters that compliment each other style, like the Marquez - Pacquiao fights and the boxing community always support trilogies because it the continuation of the excitement of the previous two fights, I'm sure both fighters will show up to fight hopefully one of them will end this trilogy, its a legacy fight for both fighters I hope Chocolatito wins this one, so he can cement his legacy, Estrada can still go on as he is still young.

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