[Boxing] Floyd Mayweather vs. Logan Paul - February 20 - page 22.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on April 22, 2021, 03:03:13 AM

The latest update on this fight is that it is expected to be rescheduled for June 5th.
https://theathletic.com/news/floyd-mayweather-vs-logan-paul-planned-for-june-5-sources/lGOVOpJtN4JJ

With a 50 pound advantage in weight and 6 inches in height it might be worth considering putting some money on Logan Paul.

Experienced, knowledge and skills. Not even you have that physical advantage it won't work for a kind of Mayweather type of a champion,

But likewise, no one knows what might be the outcome of this fight. Until we ain't heard the final bell and the announcer announce the winner, maybe you'll win or much probably you'll lose. Grin

A risk to take if you do have good spare which you are willing to let go anytime! Wink

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on April 22, 2021, 03:03:13 AM

With a 50 pound advantage in weight and 6 inches in height it might be worth considering putting some money on Logan Paul.

I like your positivity. Cheesy

There is no way Mayweather will lose on an exhibition match especially on a non-pure boxer like Paul.

50 pounds is an advantage for Paul? When Mayweather enters the ring, he will be on his preferred weight which within his comfort zone. I don't see any hole that Paul can get in to beat Mayweather.

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Another freak show. Ben Askren vs Jake Paul was just a rehearsal. They checked how much that even brought profit and figured out that it is profitable to manage another event.

Would be funny if Jake wins. Then people could say that Paul family dominate over UFC and boxing. But, Jake will never win. There are to many options how TMT could win him. The easiest way will wait till Jake runs out of stamina and TKO.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on April 22, 2021, 03:03:13 AM

The latest update on this fight is that it is expected to be rescheduled for June 5th.
https://theathletic.com/news/floyd-mayweather-vs-logan-paul-planned-for-june-5-sources/lGOVOpJtN4JJ

With a 50 pound advantage in weight and 6 inches in height it might be worth considering putting some money on Logan Paul.

Nah, I don't think it will be enough to upset Floyd. He hasn't been touch by any boxer that he has face before, professional one so I doubt that Logan Paul can even get close to Floyd. Plus we all know how defensive genius Floyd is, when you think you got him, he will suddenly change stance, putting you on uncomfortable position.

What's he gonna do with 50 lbs advantage? tie Floyd in the corner and put all his weight on him?

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The latest update on this fight is that it is expected to be rescheduled for June 5th.
https://theathletic.com/news/floyd-mayweather-vs-logan-paul-planned-for-june-5-sources/lGOVOpJtN4JJ

With a 50 pound advantage in weight and 6 inches in height it might be worth considering putting some money on Logan Paul.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on January 21, 2021, 04:13:47 PM

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 19, 2021, 05:45:54 PM

Out of being a pure fan? Theyre just basically wasting up their money into something which is clear as day on whose gonna win unless if you dont mind on losing.

Well, if Logan's fans are idiots, then yes - they'll bet on him. Or vice versa, you and I are idiots naively believing that Mayweather's managers or his close circle really know something ... since we are discussing Floyd's defeat. In addition, this is a demonstration fight, which, in fact, will not affect Mayweather's statistics in any way, so I would not be surprised that he can lose on points, (it would only mean what Floyd was betting against himself).

There are lots of ways for him to make money without affecting his reputation or stats and one as you mentioned that he might really be betting against himself and lose against Logan.

Yes, this is possible but that would really be raising lots of eyebrows because everybody believes that Logan can beat out Mayweather no matter what.Losing in points?
that would basically or normally be blamed out to referee when it comes to scoring knowing that Floyd is someone who do love to make points without on getting
hit even if he wont really be going to serious mode there still no chance for him to bit Floyd.

This is not a huge fight so it's expected that the limit is low, therefore Mayweather can't beat against himself and intentionally made himself lose in this fight, the limit can't afford that, he did not even fight Manny for rematch for a possible easy $100 million and then we think here they he will do that, that possibility is just very slim, so personally I would not think of betting on that.

The best possibility that we might see here is just the fight will be prolong but I don't think it will reach to the final round though.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 19, 2021, 05:45:54 PM

Out of being a pure fan? Theyre just basically wasting up their money into something which is clear as day on whose gonna win unless if you dont mind on losing.

Well, if Logan's fans are idiots, then yes - they'll bet on him. Or vice versa, you and I are idiots naively believing that Mayweather's managers or his close circle really know something ... since we are discussing Floyd's defeat. In addition, this is a demonstration fight, which, in fact, will not affect Mayweather's statistics in any way, so I would not be surprised that he can lose on points, (it would only mean what Floyd was betting against himself).

There are lots of ways for him to make money without affecting his reputation or stats and one as you mentioned that he might really be betting against himself and lose against Logan.

Yes, this is possible but that would really be raising lots of eyebrows because everybody believes that Logan can beat out Mayweather no matter what.Losing in points?
that would basically or normally be blamed out to referee when it comes to scoring knowing that Floyd is someone who do love to make points without on getting
hit even if he wont really be going to serious mode there still no chance for him to bit Floyd.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 19, 2021, 05:45:54 PM

Out of being a pure fan? Theyre just basically wasting up their money into something which is clear as day on whose gonna win unless if you dont mind on losing.

Well, if Logan's fans are idiots, then yes - they'll bet on him. Or vice versa, you and I are idiots naively believing that Mayweather's managers or his close circle really know something ... since we are discussing Floyd's defeat. In addition, this is a demonstration fight, which, in fact, will not affect Mayweather's statistics in any way, so I would not be surprised that he can lose on points, (it would only mean what Floyd was betting against himself).

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 19, 2021, 11:24:30 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 19, 2021, 05:45:54 PM

Can we consider to call it some negative chance? There's no way on beating up a undefeated boxer with having that kind of fighting history.

Never ever it comes to my mind or how i would able to take grasp about the possibilities which is indeed equal or less to zero.I dont know on whats on the minds of those who would bet for Logan.

Out of being a pure fan? Theyre just basically wasting up their money into something which is clear as day on whose gonna win unless if you dont mind on losing it
then that wont really be a problem.

If you are making a bet on this match, then you got only two options - either to bet in favor of Mayweather, or to go for Logan Paul. Now the first option may give you negative returns even if Mayweather wins. Because he is having such favorable odds - 1.01 or 1.02. If you deduct the deposit/withdrawal fee, then the net gain will be negative. On the other hand, Logan Paul's odds are in the range of 35 to 50. But his chances of a win are near zero. So essentially, I agree with what you said. Betting on this match is essentially wasting your money.

There's is no basis on your odds computation, you should look at some sources before you make that odds.

I have found one https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/logan-paul-vs-floyd-mayweather-odds-betting
The following odds are as follows

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Logan Paul vs Floyd Mayweather Odds
Fighter   Odds
Floyd Mayweather Jr.   -1400
Logan Paul   +750

Now, you covert that -1400 to decimal where we are used to. Using this https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html, the result is 1.07... so it's not 1.01 or 1.02.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on January 19, 2021, 05:45:54 PM

Can we consider to call it some negative chance? There's no way on beating up a undefeated boxer with having that kind of fighting history.

Never ever it comes to my mind or how i would able to take grasp about the possibilities which is indeed equal or less to zero.I dont know on whats on the minds of those who would bet for Logan.

Out of being a pure fan? Theyre just basically wasting up their money into something which is clear as day on whose gonna win unless if you dont mind on losing it
then that wont really be a problem.

If you are making a bet on this match, then you got only two options - either to bet in favor of Mayweather, or to go for Logan Paul. Now the first option may give you negative returns even if Mayweather wins. Because he is having such favorable odds - 1.01 or 1.02. If you deduct the deposit/withdrawal fee, then the net gain will be negative. On the other hand, Logan Paul's odds are in the range of 35 to 50. But his chances of a win are near zero. So essentially, I agree with what you said. Betting on this match is essentially wasting your money.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 18, 2021, 09:49:16 PM

Quote from: icopress on January 18, 2021, 04:21:18 PM

Really? Floyd lives for his own pleasure, and the only thing he loves more than boxing is money ... Or did you forget that Mayweather has his own personal clothing brand "The Money Team", and this is not to mention his other high-profile statements related to money. So if he loses this show-fight, it will only mean that hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake in the form of bets on his loss.

Everyone in this world is money minded and Floyd is no different from any of them. He won't be making all this money, if he didn't had an unbeaten record. BTW, now we are talking about his unbeaten record being broken by an amateur boxer. Theoretically, the chances are not equal to zero. There may be a one in a million chance of that happening. But any chance of less than 0.01% is normally considered as zero.

Can we consider to call it some negative chance? There's no way on beating up a undefeated boxer with having that kind of fighting history.

Never ever it comes to my mind or how i would able to take grasp about the possibilities which is indeed equal or less to zero.I dont know on whats on the minds of those who would bet for Logan.

Out of being a pure fan? Theyre just basically wasting up their money into something which is clear as day on whose gonna win unless if you dont mind on losing it
then that wont really be a problem.

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Quote from: South Park on January 14, 2021, 03:22:08 PM

This is what I thought it will happen, not only this fight is not very attractive for fans of boxing, even if it may attractive for the fans of Floyd, but not even casinos care about this fight, they know there is almost no chance that Floyd losses and he is receiving these massive odds which is completely understandable, more and more this fight seems like just another source of revenue for Floyd and while there is nothing wrong with that at the same time the fight will get almost no attention at all as Floyd will be basically fighting on his own the day of the fight.

Imagine if it was all a setup by Floyd and Logan for them both to have massive bets on Logan to win at huge odds... Floyd leans into Logan throwing his best shot, and they both make hundreds of millions of dollars. That would be the way to get every possible dollar they could out of this fight. I don't think Floyd would tarnish his legacy for a few hundred million but you never know. It's possible he would like one last big payday for him and all his close friends/family.

I LOL at this because this is exactly what happens in the South Park episode Damien, and while I am sure Floyd will never do something like this and damage his reputation and his legacy, which is something that he cares about, it will be incredible if that actually happened, it will be an incredible way to show to the fans that he does not care about anything but his own profits, however if it was too obvious would not that get him in trouble with the police and casinos and they could accuse him of fraud or something? I know it is not happening but I am just trying to get a clearer picture about how something like that could be pulled off.

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Quote from: STT on January 18, 2021, 12:04:05 PM

Thats interesting information and explains why this is going ahead really because Logan is a nobody in sports but he does have an audience and in advertising addressing a specific demographic outside your normal reach is good business and maybe Floyd is really that smart is raising his own profile for the future no matter the outcome. Now all the fans of Logan know him and hopefully have some respect, recognition for future ventures. Moves inside the ring hardly matter compared to larger brand business possible, its why some of these celebrity names can end up in ownership of business closing on billions because they just keep rolling over their previous success into new arenas, he cant fight forever clearly.

That's how smart Mayweather was, he knows that time will come and he's boxing career whether he like it or not will ends up.
But it doesn't matter as he can venture for more.

Like what he's doing right now, he's making money even he's already retired. He's promoters doing great finding opponent that have good market in terms of fans.

It can convert those numbers of followers to possible viewers who can pay for PPV. Amazingly created for the sake of money.

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Quote from: icopress on January 18, 2021, 04:21:18 PM

Really? Floyd lives for his own pleasure, and the only thing he loves more than boxing is money ... Or did you forget that Mayweather has his own personal clothing brand "The Money Team", and this is not to mention his other high-profile statements related to money. So if he loses this show-fight, it will only mean that hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake in the form of bets on his loss.

Everyone in this world is money minded and Floyd is no different from any of them. He won't be making all this money, if he didn't had an unbeaten record. BTW, now we are talking about his unbeaten record being broken by an amateur boxer. Theoretically, the chances are not equal to zero. There may be a one in a million chance of that happening. But any chance of less than 0.01% is normally considered as zero.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on January 18, 2021, 01:50:45 PM

I wont believe that he would be letting his pride down for that or exchanging to have that title of being undefeated for his entire career but if he's really be contented nor being convinced on said amounts then he might be but for sure that isn't really something talks about short digit numbers.

Really? Floyd lives for his own pleasure, and the only thing he loves more than boxing is money ... Or did you forget that Mayweather has his own personal clothing brand "The Money Team", and this is not to mention his other high-profile statements related to money. So if he loses this show-fight, it will only mean that hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake in the form of bets on his loss.

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Quote from: icopress on January 18, 2021, 12:53:41 PM

Quote from: STT on January 18, 2021, 12:04:05 PM

Thats interesting information and explains why this is going ahead really because Logan is a nobody in sports but he does have an audience ...

Man, you are absolutely right that this fight will open up good prospects for Floyd ... But as I have said many times, this is not a fight, but shit, not that I would negatively relate to this event, I'm just sure that Floyd will find it difficult to meet the expectations of fans hardcore fights. And while anything can happen in boxing, it's hard for me to imagine Mayweather losing to Logan, (unless Floyd puts a billion dollars against himself).

Letting himself to lose in a fighter that doesn't have a good record or simply an amateur in the sports of boxing? Even if this do involves lots of money or had been stake

I wont believe that he would be letting his pride down for that or exchanging to have that title of being undefeated for his entire career but if he's really be

contented nor being convinced on said amounts then he might be but for sure that isn't really something talks about short digit numbers. Cheesy

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Quote from: STT on January 18, 2021, 12:04:05 PM

Thats interesting information and explains why this is going ahead really because Logan is a nobody in sports but he does have an audience ...

Man, you are absolutely right that this fight will open up good prospects for Floyd ... But as I have said many times, this is not a fight, but shit, not that I would negatively relate to this event, I'm just sure that Floyd will find it difficult to meet the expectations of fans hardcore fights. And while anything can happen in boxing, it's hard for me to imagine Mayweather losing to Logan, (unless Floyd puts a billion dollars against himself).

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Thats interesting information and explains why this is going ahead really because Logan is a nobody in sports but he does have an audience and in advertising addressing a specific demographic outside your normal reach is good business and maybe Floyd is really that smart is raising his own profile for the future no matter the outcome. Now all the fans of Logan know him and hopefully have some respect, recognition for future ventures. Moves inside the ring hardly matter compared to larger brand business possible, its why some of these celebrity names can end up in ownership of business closing on billions because they just keep rolling over their previous success into new arenas, he cant fight forever clearly.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 18, 2021, 04:38:16 AM

The breakdown seems incomplete.. where would the 45% go?... I think 5% is a very small percentage, and there prediction on the revenue is too high.

Do you think that the organizers will not take their cut from the revenues?

As far as I know, Mayweather is one of the major organizer of this event, he promotes this fight with other company as partners.
There should be a proper breakdown, I know Mayweather and Mayweather promotion are separate, it's a boxer and a company.

So we need to know where the 45% will go.

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There are a lot of expenses in organizing this fight. On top of that, there are tax bills to be taken care of. Some revenue may come from gate collection, but PPV purchases represent the lion's share of revenues. 50% to 60% sounds like a good deal and that is usually what the boxers receive from these well publicized fights.

About taxes, I guess taxes are deducted to the total revenue, then the breakdown should be based on revenue less tax.. so I was just asking on the lacking 45%.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 17, 2021, 10:41:15 PM

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When Logan Paul started these kind of boxing tournaments some of the boxing fans and retired fighters were laughing at him but once they knew that Logan Paul has a huge following that are ready to purchase his pay per views majority of the boxers started supporting this attraction as it will help boxing in the long run as it is attracting the casual fans and those fans would stay and it is a win win situation for everyone.

If anyone is benefiting from this match, it has to be Floyd Mayweather. He doesn't even need to train for this match as the opponent is an amateur. And he has a guaranteed purse of $5 million plus 50% of the PPV revenue. On the other hand, Logan Paul is allotted just 5% of the PPV revenue.

The breakdown seems incomplete.. where would the 45% go?... I think 5% is a very small percentage, and there prediction on the revenue is too high.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 17, 2021, 10:41:15 PM

Mayweather will walk away with at least $50-$100 million, for just a few minutes of boxing.

I'm interested to know where did you get this figure, I think it's too much for a fight that does not interest boxing fans to watch.
Boxing will only sell when fans are watching it, and I don't see it will attract fans to watch, maybe Logan's followers, but I still doubt they'll get that huge figure.

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