[Boxing] Floyd Mayweather vs. Logan Paul - February 20 - page 23.

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Quote from: ene1980 on January 17, 2021, 09:23:45 AM

When Logan Paul started these kind of boxing tournaments some of the boxing fans and retired fighters were laughing at him but once they knew that Logan Paul has a huge following that are ready to purchase his pay per views majority of the boxers started supporting this attraction as it will help boxing in the long run as it is attracting the casual fans and those fans would stay and it is a win win situation for everyone.

If anyone is benefiting from this match, it has to be Floyd Mayweather. He doesn't even need to train for this match as the opponent is an amateur. And he has a guaranteed purse of $5 million plus 50% of the PPV revenue. On the other hand, Logan Paul is allotted just 5% of the PPV revenue. Mayweather will walk away with at least $50-$100 million, for just a few minutes of boxing.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 17, 2021, 08:01:37 AM

The profile of Logan Paul supporters is diametrically different from Mayweather fans. Most of them are not boxing fans as such, and they are interested in this match only because their hero is taking part. Last time also, more than a million of them purchased PPV for the match against KSI. But then, the PPV was priced much lower than the price-tag for this match. But then, this is like a once in a lifetime opportunity for them.

When Logan Paul started these kind of boxing tournaments some of the boxing fans and retired fighters were laughing at him but once they knew that Logan Paul has a huge following that are ready to purchase his pay per views majority of the boxers started supporting this attraction as it will help boxing in the long run as it is attracting the casual fans and those fans would stay and it is a win win situation for everyone.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 17, 2021, 07:21:31 AM

He attract his fans to watch if the fight is interesting, his previous fight made his fans interested because they think he has a chance, with Mayweather, I doubt they'll think of that, unless they are blindly following him.

The profile of Logan Paul supporters is diametrically different from Mayweather fans. Most of them are not boxing fans as such, and they are interested in this match only because their hero is taking part. Last time also, more than a million of them purchased PPV for the match against KSI. But then, the PPV was priced much lower than the price-tag for this match. But then, this is like a once in a lifetime opportunity for them.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2021, 06:48:48 PM

Logan Paul is not a professional boxer but he is still able to attract huge crowds for his matches which is not a small factor for him to get these exhibition fights and that too against Mayweather as Floyd himself is impressed with the way in which he is able to sell a fight and increase his bank balance.

It's his charisma.

He can attract his fans to watch any match that he'll make. And those people that he'll want to spare are not just small-time but they're all biggies and professional players which also have their own fan base.

And that's also another huge audience for a crowd that they can take for their matches.

He attract his fans to watch if the fight is interesting, his previous fight made his fans interested because they think he has a chance, with Mayweather, I doubt they'll think of that, unless they are blindly following him.

Precisely. If the fans really loves him they will just blindly follow him and pay to watch this fight.
Even chances of winning against Mayweather is really slim, there are fans who will pay for this.

As they are not caring about the result but they are more on supporting him as a fan, only bonus if he able to hit Mayweather with a
solid one. Entertaining enough if this one happened maybe promoters will let this to attract more interest and maybe a possible match with another known fighter.

Logan Paul got big fan base so even if people know the possible result they will still love to see the match happened, its history in the making for Logan so for sure many want to witness this fight to happen.

But lets not downplay Logan's capability here since he still have solid body and heavy punch so everything will change if he can hit a heavy punch on Mayweather's face and if he can knockdown him then its a big break for him and for sure he will earn more richest for that fight if Logan successfully beat Mayweather.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 17, 2021, 07:21:31 AM

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2021, 06:48:48 PM

Logan Paul is not a professional boxer but he is still able to attract huge crowds for his matches which is not a small factor for him to get these exhibition fights and that too against Mayweather as Floyd himself is impressed with the way in which he is able to sell a fight and increase his bank balance.

It's his charisma.

He can attract his fans to watch any match that he'll make. And those people that he'll want to spare are not just small-time but they're all biggies and professional players which also have their own fan base.

And that's also another huge audience for a crowd that they can take for their matches.

He attract his fans to watch if the fight is interesting, his previous fight made his fans interested because they think he has a chance, with Mayweather, I doubt they'll think of that, unless they are blindly following him.

Precisely. If the fans really loves him they will just blindly follow him and pay to watch this fight.
Even chances of winning against Mayweather is really slim, there are fans who will pay for this.

As they are not caring about the result but they are more on supporting him as a fan, only bonus if he able to hit Mayweather with a
solid one. Entertaining enough if this one happened maybe promoters will let this to attract more interest and maybe a possible match with another known fighter.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2021, 06:48:48 PM

Logan Paul is not a professional boxer but he is still able to attract huge crowds for his matches which is not a small factor for him to get these exhibition fights and that too against Mayweather as Floyd himself is impressed with the way in which he is able to sell a fight and increase his bank balance.

It's his charisma.

He can attract his fans to watch any match that he'll make. And those people that he'll want to spare are not just small-time but they're all biggies and professional players which also have their own fan base.

And that's also another huge audience for a crowd that they can take for their matches.

He attract his fans to watch if the fight is interesting, his previous fight made his fans interested because they think he has a chance, with Mayweather, I doubt they'll think of that, unless they are blindly following him.

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It is impossible to believe that they will script the match if it is taking place in the US, if its taking place elsewhere especially in Japan then it could be true.

Why is it impossible? it's not a competition, it's an exhibition match, both camp could talk on what to do to entertain the fans. Can you educate me why it's not possible in US and possible in Japan? I'm just curious though.

Japan is known to fix matches in the past and the most recent in an exhibition fight which Floyd Mayweather was involved against Tenshin Nasukawa and if you watch the entire bout you will understand the reason and most of the sporting events in Japan is controlled by the Yakuza crime syndicate and it is not a secret. But in the US, if the sports book accepts the fight to place a bet and if they finds out that the fight is fixed then the organizers will face legal action.

But proving it would be more difficult in the court. Fix matches are barely to happen and I do not know if this is still really existed in Japan nowadays. People will not going to like the entertainment if results will be determine and their sports betting will be good as dead if this is the way what they wanted in their sports. This is not what the fans wanted and this is why fix matches are not likely to happen. I believe there are mafia but nowadays it woulf be hard for them to control the sports organizers.

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It is impossible to believe that they will script the match if it is taking place in the US, if its taking place elsewhere especially in Japan then it could be true.

Why is it impossible? it's not a competition, it's an exhibition match, both camp could talk on what to do to entertain the fans. Can you educate me why it's not possible in US and possible in Japan? I'm just curious though.

Japan is known to fix matches in the past and the most recent in an exhibition fight which Floyd Mayweather was involved against Tenshin Nasukawa and if you watch the entire bout you will understand the reason and most of the sporting events in Japan is controlled by the Yakuza crime syndicate and it is not a secret. But in the US, if the sports book accepts the fight to place a bet and if they finds out that the fight is fixed then the organizers will face legal action.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2021, 06:48:48 PM

Logan Paul is not a professional boxer but he is still able to attract huge crowds for his matches which is not a small factor for him to get these exhibition fights and that too against Mayweather as Floyd himself is impressed with the way in which he is able to sell a fight and increase his bank balance.

It's his charisma.

He can attract his fans to watch any match that he'll make. And those people that he'll want to spare are not just small-time but they're all biggies and professional players which also have their own fan base.

And that's also another huge audience for a crowd that they can take for their matches.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 15, 2021, 06:48:48 PM

Logan Paul is not a professional boxer but he is still able to attract huge crowds for his matches which is not a small factor for him to get these exhibition fights and that too against Mayweather as Floyd himself is impressed with the way in which he is able to sell a fight and increase his bank balance.

That is the reason why Mayweather is being regarded as the richest boxer in the recorded history. He may have retired from professional boxing, but he still continues to have a huge fan following. Obviously a fight against Pacquiao or some of the other well known boxers would have resulted in even greater revenues, but Floyd is reluctant to come out of the retirement.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 14, 2021, 09:49:47 PM

No doubt about that. The Logan Paul vs Olajide Olayinka Williams (KSI) match was priced at £7.50 in the United Kingdom and $9.99 in the United States. This one is also an exhibition match, and it is priced at manytimes that amount. I agree that Mayweather still commands a sizable fan following, but charging this much for a match involving an amateur is a bit unfair in my opinion.

Logan Paul is not a professional boxer but he is still able to attract huge crowds for his matches which is not a small factor for him to get these exhibition fights and that too against Mayweather as Floyd himself is impressed with the way in which he is able to sell a fight and increase his bank balance.

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That is my hope too. It would be great if all the Youtube people come and bet on Logan Paul so the stats will be in our favour. This match is going to be so one sided. Floyd is still going to the gym on a regular basis, he is a machine and will detroy him.

The Daily Mail has published an estimate of the purse for each of the fighters. According to them, Mayweather is promised 50% of the PPV revenues, in addition to a guaranteed payment of $5 million. Logan Paul on the other hand, will be given 5% of the PPV revenues and a guaranteed payment of $200,000. I expect the PPV sales to be in the 3-4 million range, and they are priced at $89.99 each.

@Mauser since you know Mayweather went to the gym on regular basis and he will destroy Logan Paul, you still want all the Youtube people to bet on Logan Paul so the fight stats can switch. Come on, people usually follow the winning side.

People are not stupid, no way the odds will switch or even close to being a fair fight based on odds.
We will not be getting 1.50 for Floyd here, most likely the odds will only be below 1.10... that's the max it can give IMO.

Yes of course since this is obvious winning fight for Mayweather and looking the whole preparation (especially the PPV) for the fight will say this is all a setup by Mayweather or the promoter just their pockets.

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@Sithara007 the Mayweather offer is fair but I read that Youtube said he would have fight Mayweather for free. However, the PPV's original price was $59.99 whilst the $89.99 have the fight exclusive shirt.

Still very expensive, this is just an exhibition fight, Logan Paul is not a known boxer, I really doubt they'll get their target sales here.

Yes, but the PPV ticket was first $24.99 later increase to $39.99 after a million ticket is sold the price move up to $59.99 and it will still increase to $79.99 next month.

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@Mauser since you know Mayweather went to the gym on regular basis and he will destroy Logan Paul, you still want all the Youtube people to bet on Logan Paul so the fight stats can switch. Come on, people usually follow the winning side.
@Sithara007 the Mayweather offer is fair but I read that Youtube said he would have fight Mayweather for free. However, the PPV's original price was $59.99 whilst the $89.99 have the fight exclusive shirt.

If they have an agreement that Mayweather will not be knocked out, but will strive to win only by a decision of the judges, then you can risk your health for free Wink

Although I think it's just a play on words and meanings. Logan, according to his recent words, hopes for his height and a single blow, although I'm not sure that Mayweather will give him this chance for the entire time of the fight, despite the difference in height and age.

A lot of speculation was made about the height advantage Logan paul had over Mayweather but I don't think Mayweather was bothered by the physical disadvantage cause he has more experience than Logan. Besides, I did some research about and I watch a YouTube video of him taking on Big Show.

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I was checking various gambling sites to see if I can get odds of more than 1.03 for Floyd Mayweather.. but it looks like there are none. The most I could find was 1.02 (-5000) in favor of Floyd. Some of the sites even had Floyd at less than 1.01, which makes it impossible to bet for him. Odds looks attractive for Logan Paul. But who will be crazy enough to bet in his favor?

This is what I thought it will happen, not only this fight is not very attractive for fans of boxing, even if it may attractive for the fans of Floyd, but not even casinos care about this fight, they know there is almost no chance that Floyd losses and he is receiving these massive odds which is completely understandable, more and more this fight seems like just another source of revenue for Floyd and while there is nothing wrong with that at the same time the fight will get almost no attention at all as Floyd will be basically fighting on his own the day of the fight.

Imagine if it was all a setup by Floyd and Logan for them both to have massive bets on Logan to win at huge odds... Floyd leans into Logan throwing his best shot, and they both make hundreds of millions of dollars. That would be the way to get every possible dollar they could out of this fight. I don't think Floyd would tarnish his legacy for a few hundred million but you never know. It's possible he would like one last big payday for him and all his close friends/family.

I don't think he will tarnish his reputation here even if it is just an exhibition fight.
Do you think he will go beyond on giving this fight to Logan Paul just for the sake of money?
Even if we know, he wants a big payday, but really don't think he will go to that extent.
Also, this exhibition match I believe is also not attractive to crypto sportsbooks.
No one has this match yet. Or they won't list it?

I don't think he will tarnish his reputation either, but it's something fun to consider. Looks like a bet on Logan Paul is paying out 15 to 1 right now. With rumors that Mayweather is getting $50 million plus in earnings from the fight, he could turn that into 3/4 of a billion dollars just for taking a dive. That's a whole lot of cash... I'm guessing if Logan did win there would be an investigation into potential wrongdoing like never before. Definitely not worth the risk for Floyd, but again, fun to think about.

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Am I the only one who can't wait for the fight between Mayweather and Logan Paul, when only a few weeks are left. I was curious not about
the outcome of the fight, because it was predictable that Mayweather would win the fight easily. But I'm just wondering how many minutes
Logan Paul can stay in the ring, because Mayweather will definitely finish the fight as quickly as possible. To show Logan Paul that his qualities
as a former world champion.

Even though this fight had received criticism from several world boxers, but Mike Tyson actually provided support for the battle of Mayweather
and Logan Paul. That can boost the popularity of boxing which is considered to be losing popularity with the UFC.

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He wont even get 1% or 0.1% of his followers to pay for the fight. Only one in a household has to pay for starters and the thing is with subscribers on Youtube is most in many cases arent even regular watchers. They sub in case he posts a big video and maybe it shows in their queue but I'd go to the extremes of saying 1 in a thousand or less watch the fight so its just as well he has 20 million subs I guess, that'd make it about 20k people pay and I think thats a fair take. Boxing fans will mostly be there to watch the more mainstream names, its a great deal for Logan as a nobody to collect money and I totally dont blame him.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on January 15, 2021, 08:25:08 AM

It is impossible to believe that they will script the match if it is taking place in the US, if its taking place elsewhere especially in Japan then it could be true.

Why is it impossible? it's not a competition, it's an exhibition match, both camp could talk on what to do to entertain the fans. Can you educate me why it's not possible in US and possible in Japan? I'm just curious though.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on January 15, 2021, 01:32:19 AM

With the lockdowns back in place, a lot of people will be having spare time to watch sports events. And remember that the match between KSI and Logan Paul resulted in more than a million PPV buys. If a fight between two amateurs can attract this many buys, then you can imagine the sort of revenue that Mayweather can bring.

In the past Floyd Mayweather was able to garner much attraction in all of his fights is because they wanted to see him get defeated as he always showcased a brash negative personality in the media and once he started flashing and turned him money Mayweather he started making big amounts, but this is an exhibition fight with Logan Paul and it will have its audience but cannot expect the same level of PPV buys like his past fights.

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My only concern is that the match would be scripted and that would be injustice to the millions who purchase the PPV at such high rates.

It is impossible to believe that they will script the match if it is taking place in the US, if its taking place elsewhere especially in Japan then it could be true.

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Even if he gets 10% of his followers to watch this fight, that would already translate to millions, but I really doubt they can get that number. I maybe wrong, but for now, that's my honest opinion.. I would say good luck anyway.

Subscribing to Logan Paul's YouTube channel doesn't require spending any money. I would have been still hopeful if the PPV price was like $9.99 or $19.99. But the organizers seems to have overpriced it. Spending $59.99 for a fight which in all probability is not going to last more than a few minutes? Obviously still a lot of people are going to watch the fight, but there will be a lot more who will turn to pirated streams.

I'll definitely look for that one too if I can find a free one, nowadays, there are already a lot of streamers who share the link if they will just search enough, but it's not easy to find it, so if we don't want some hassle, then maybe we just buy the PPV, but like I said, I'm not buying the PPV.

with this price, if few of Paul's subscribers will pay, like 10% as stated or 2 million, then that would be over 100 million already.

is that number even realistic?

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Quote from: babygun on January 15, 2021, 04:10:25 AM

Yep, you are right! I am wondering who wants to see a wannebe star fight in a match he can't win. Or maybe some people just hope that Mayweather kicks his ass badly Grin

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But probably a lot of fans will still pay to see the fight. I just checked and Logan has over 22.7 million followers on youtube Shocked

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Even if he gets 10% of his followers to watch this fight, that would already translate to millions, but I really doubt they can get that number. I maybe wrong, but for now, that's my honest opinion.. I would say good luck anyway.

Worth to try, the promoters knows that if they'll convert that fans into views. PPV I mean, it really worth a lots of money.

They are gambling to this, knowing that there are possibilities that people who knows this upcoming fight might be interested to watch it out even the fight is just exhibitions as this pandemic is tiring and people needs something to have some entertainment.

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I believe there are early stage of sale and they will evaluate if the sale is good, if not then they will eventually drop the price, maybe we don't buy yet if we are interested on this fight, wait until the price drop, and then you'll get a cheaper price... I don't know if it's possible but it just came into my mind as I really don't believe this fight should be valued that high for a PPV.

With the lockdowns back in place, a lot of people will be having spare time to watch sports events. And remember that the match between KSI and Logan Paul resulted in more than a million PPV buys. If a fight between two amateurs can attract this many buys, then you can imagine the sort of revenue that Mayweather can bring. My only concern is that the match would be scripted and that would be injustice to the millions who purchase the PPV at such high rates.

That's because the fight was interesting, we don't know who will win so people get interested to see the fight. On this fight, we obviously know who will win, people does not think that Logan Paul here has a chance to beat Mayweather or even give him a tough fight, that's real talk man.

Yep, you are right! I am wondering who wants to see a wannebe star fight in a match he can't win. Or maybe some people just hope that Mayweather kicks his ass badly Grin

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But probably a lot of fans will still pay to see the fight. I just checked and Logan has over 22.7 million followers on youtube Shocked

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