Topic: [ BOXING ]: Fury vs Wilder III in Las Vegas on 18th July 2020 !!! - page 31. (Read 6676 times)

Quote from: LogitechMouse on July 02, 2020, 08:50:18 PM

So it's official that this fight has been rescheduled as they want to have a crowd to generate more income

. I hope that by December, vaccine is already developed so thing will get back to normal. not just in boxing but to all other sports as well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wilder-3-arum-crossing-fingers-he-crowd-on-december-19--149905

Kinda expected though that this fight will be rescheduled because of what is happening in US right now Cheesy

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Lets just hope that at that time, a vaccine has been made although the minimum time frame for a new vaccine to be created is around 12-18 months so there is still a bit chance that a vaccine can't be created by December. Hoping to have a new virus by December although I'm not expecting Cheesy

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I am not optimistic about a vaccine created and released by December. Also, if there is a vaccine on December, I hope it will not be made in China hehehe. Do not be the test guinea pigs.

Probably the vaccine will came from EU or US, I reckon. Anyways, I'm optimistic that in the next quarter, at least a potential vaccine could be developed so that everything will be back to normal. As far as the fight goes, it's the most anticipated fight, and lets hope that a fight could be made at the end of the year or early 2021.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 01, 2020, 07:41:42 AM

So it's official that this fight has been rescheduled as they want to have a crowd to generate more income

. I hope that by December, vaccine is already developed so thing will get back to normal. not just in boxing but to all other sports as well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wilder-3-arum-crossing-fingers-he-crowd-on-december-19--149905

Kinda expected though that this fight will be rescheduled because of what is happening in US right now Cheesy

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Lets just hope that at that time, a vaccine has been made although the minimum time frame for a new vaccine to be created is around 12-18 months so there is still a bit chance that a vaccine can't be created by December. Hoping to have a new virus by December although I'm not expecting Cheesy

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I am not optimistic about a vaccine created and released by December. Also, if there is a vaccine on December, I hope it will not be made in China hehehe. Do not be the test guinea pigs.

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An article pops up accusing Fury of loading his gloves, this is according to Wilder's brother.

Fury Vows To End Wilder's Career After Claim of Loaded Gloves

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In a recent social media post, Marsellos Wilder, the younger brother of former heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder, made a sensational claim that Tyson Fury may have loaded his gloves for the rematch with Deontay back in February.

“You know it’s crazy when you [are] great. They gotta do everything that is underneath real to figure out how to stop you. And the most wicked sh-t about [it] is- people on your own team will do anything for the hate [or] money to help [the opponents] take you down. It was discovered by doctors that my brother has a dent [at] the side of his head [due] to a blunt object [striking] his head [in] his last fight. No glove or fist was able to cause the damage according to the autopsy. My daddy once told me if you pull a gun out on somebody, you better kill them. Because if you don’t, they are gonna come back and kill you. The king is about to rise again. We [are] coming for blood," Marsellos Wilder stated.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-vows-end-wilder-career-claim-loaded-gloves--149855

I doubt that those allegations are true though, there are a lot of people including boxing bodies representatives and even the WBC President said that he is present in both in the dressing room. So I don't know where the hell did Marsellos Wilder got this idea.

This another b_s excuse on the Wilder camp on why their guy lost the fight. I think, after that Margarito incident, boxing bodies are very strict on inspecting gloves to prevent another such incident. I read an article that Fury is more motivated to end the career of Wilder after knowing that baseless allegation. Bad for Wilder?

Why can't they just accept the result and focus on the next fight?
Wilder almost lose in the first fight, so there is no reason for people to believe that Fury has to cheat or cheating since some of them are even convince that it was Fury who won in the first fight. Another excuse from him, maybe the end of his career is near.

I just re-watched the second fight, Fury was really the bigger fighter and that is the reason why there is so much power in his both hands. Maybe the team or at least the brother can't accept the result because the older Wilder has no answer to the Gypsy King.

And I also doubt that a high level fight like this will just let go of the boxing commission if there are doubts or question about his wrap or gloves.

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So it's official that this fight has been rescheduled as they want to have a crowd to generate more income

. I hope that by December, vaccine is already developed so thing will get back to normal. not just in boxing but to all other sports as well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wilder-3-arum-crossing-fingers-he-crowd-on-december-19--149905

Kinda expected though that this fight will be rescheduled because of what is happening in US right now Cheesy

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Lets just hope that at that time, a vaccine has been made although the minimum time frame for a new vaccine to be created is around 12-18 months so there is still a bit chance that a vaccine can't be created by December. Hoping to have a new virus by December although I'm not expecting Cheesy

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I imagine the Fury Vs Joshua contract has a clause in it that Fury has to win against Wilder, otherwise it will be cancelled. I'm confident that Fury will win it again, because in my opinion he's won the past two fights with a little controversial scores the first time around. However, I know the threat that Wilder possesses. He might not be the best boxer, but he definitely is a fighter, and has a dynamite right hand. Even, though I don't expect massive improvements from Wilder, and he'll look for that one punch knockout again. I just hope Fury goes in there non complacent, and doesn't switch off at any point as we've seen what can happen if that does happen.

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Quote from: yazher on July 02, 2020, 10:31:56 AM

So it's official that this fight has been rescheduled as they want to have a crowd to generate more income

. I hope that by December, vaccine is already developed so thing will get back to normal. not just in boxing but to all other sports as well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wilder-3-arum-crossing-fingers-he-crowd-on-december-19--149905

Maybe the previous fights he promoted was just a test for him to determine how things will go when this two fighters clash again.
He is hoping then maybe he knows something on when the vaccine will be release, and I'm hoping as well that vaccine will be release this year even if later this year. This two fight could be the last fight between the two, so probably he wants more money and he realized that it would only happen when there's a crowd.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 30, 2020, 06:27:46 PM

Public losing trust on Wilder?

If a fighter is refusing to accept defeat and start blaming on his outfit you think that the public would rally behind that fighter. Wilder was too confident in his punching power and he was arrogant moving up the division and everyone was banking on his knockout capability and Fury showed that punching power does not actually mean anything if you are not having technique and how can anyone vouch for Wilder after watching two fights.

Yeah, veterans move will always prevail especially when set up beautifully. I remember when Erik Morales fought a newbie contender whos boxing career was shining that year, Morales gives a hell of a lesson when he takes all of Morales's veterans shot. this is the same as the Fury vs Wilder fight, I think most of the punch that wilder takes came from unexpected angles where he didn't have some idea how to defend it. He must not underestimate fury's skill or he might end up losing this upcoming 3rd match again.

It all matters with skill and experience and we know that every sport do only have 1 outcome which would give out 1 winner and 1 losser.

The best fighter would prevail and we can differentiate on whats the flaw of each fighter after such fight. Its never been good to be confident

when you are already on the ring side because you wouldnt know on what you opponent is capable of.If Wilder wouldnt make any changes

on his fighting style and techniques then he would face up another loss again.

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So it's official that this fight has been rescheduled as they want to have a crowd to generate more income

. I hope that by December, vaccine is already developed so thing will get back to normal. not just in boxing but to all other sports as well.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-wilder-3-arum-crossing-fingers-he-crowd-on-december-19--149905

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 30, 2020, 06:27:46 PM

Public losing trust on Wilder?

If a fighter is refusing to accept defeat and start blaming on his outfit you think that the public would rally behind that fighter. Wilder was too confident in his punching power and he was arrogant moving up the division and everyone was banking on his knockout capability and Fury showed that punching power does not actually mean anything if you are not having technique and how can anyone vouch for Wilder after watching two fights.

Yeah, veterans move will always prevail especially when set up beautifully. I remember when Erik Morales fought a newbie contender whos boxing career was shining that year, Morales gives a hell of a lesson when he takes all of Morales's veterans shot. this is the same as the Fury vs Wilder fight, I think most of the punch that wilder takes came from unexpected angles where he didn't have some idea how to defend it. He must not underestimate fury's skill or he might end up losing this upcoming 3rd match again.

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Wilder was battered badly in the re-match, Fury totally dominated from the first round until he won by knock out.

It is right for Wilder to be a heavy underdog and it is right for Fury to be heavily odds on favourite to win.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 30, 2020, 06:27:46 PM

Public losing trust on Wilder?

If a fighter is refusing to accept defeat and start blaming on his outfit you think that the public would rally behind that fighter. Wilder was too confident in his punching power and he was arrogant moving up the division and everyone was banking on his knockout capability and Fury showed that punching power does not actually mean anything if you are not having technique and how can anyone vouch for Wilder after watching two fights.

The line is inviting the Wilder believers to to bet on him, at +250, I've never seen in the past that Wilder having that odds, most of the time he is a favorite.
For Fury, I think -350 is not that attractive, but if there's a betting odds on Fury winning by KO, I think that would give better odds.

It's because he lost the second fight badly that's why the odd makers put him as the underdog although we know that he can surprise Fury specially his powerful right. So it is a good and very attractive odd, specially if you are a Wilder fan. Nothing to lose, bet big and you win big. Perhaps the odds might change a bit as we get closer to the fight, but I think Fury will be the big favourite here and complete this trilogy.

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I think we don't need to take his brother word for it, if someone like the trainer come in with some proof then it could have some credence. However, I don't think that his brother is part of the "official" team, maybe that is his own opinion, but it doesn't mean it will reflect Team Wilder's opinion as well. He has more to prove in the ring than talking non sense.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 30, 2020, 06:56:02 PM

The line is inviting the Wilder believers to to bet on him, at +250, I've never seen in the past that Wilder having that odds, most of the time he is a favorite.
For Fury, I think -350 is not that attractive, but if there's a betting odds on Fury winning by KO, I think that would give better odds.

The line is attractive as anything could happen in the fight considering the punching power of Wilder, if you loose a fight with that kind of conviction in the second fight then you cannot expect the odds makers giving him much odds, i do not think tha Fury could win again by KO as i am expecting an entirely different fight the third time and if Fury defeats Wilder again by KO then his career his over.

Quote from: TravelMug on July 01, 2020, 11:01:53 AM

Is this some kind of publicity stunt on Wilder's camp to stir another discussion and bring people to talk about their fight again? I agree that they should focus on the trilogy as this really spells the career of Deontay. He should have tell his brother to just shut up.

This is simply the ego of Wilder and his team members not able to accept the defeat and they keep on finding excuses one after the other and if that is the situation they are not going to improve and i think his hands are full as his career is on the line.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 01, 2020, 11:01:53 AM

Is this some kind of publicity stunt on Wilder's camp to stir another discussion and bring people to talk about their fight again? I agree that they should focus on the trilogy as this really spells the career of Deontay. He should have tell his brother to just shut up.

Obviously, just trying to sell the fight like most of the fighters do, let us not take that comment seriously and they just have to let the talking be done in the ring. Wilder better be busy training and focus on the future rather than going back in the past where he can't change anything.

Quote from: TravelMug on July 01, 2020, 11:01:53 AM

His brother's career though is very different so maybe he has suffer some dent himself from the knockout he got. Grin

I don't even know that he has a brother who is a boxer as well, just knew it now so maybe they are successful of getting the attention of the fan, but they better should because it might be the last fight of Wilder.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 01, 2020, 07:41:42 AM

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An article pops up accusing Fury of loading his gloves, this is according to Wilder's brother.

Fury Vows To End Wilder's Career After Claim of Loaded Gloves

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In a recent social media post, Marsellos Wilder, the younger brother of former heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder, made a sensational claim that Tyson Fury may have loaded his gloves for the rematch with Deontay back in February.

“You know it’s crazy when you [are] great. They gotta do everything that is underneath real to figure out how to stop you. And the most wicked sh-t about [it] is- people on your own team will do anything for the hate [or] money to help [the opponents] take you down. It was discovered by doctors that my brother has a dent [at] the side of his head [due] to a blunt object [striking] his head [in] his last fight. No glove or fist was able to cause the damage according to the autopsy. My daddy once told me if you pull a gun out on somebody, you better kill them. Because if you don’t, they are gonna come back and kill you. The king is about to rise again. We [are] coming for blood," Marsellos Wilder stated.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-vows-end-wilder-career-claim-loaded-gloves--149855

I doubt that those allegations are true though, there are a lot of people including boxing bodies representatives and even the WBC President said that he is present in both in the dressing room. So I don't know where the hell did Marsellos Wilder got this idea.

This another b_s excuse on the Wilder camp on why their guy lost the fight. I think, after that Margarito incident, boxing bodies are very strict on inspecting gloves to prevent another such incident. I read an article that Fury is more motivated to end the career of Wilder after knowing that baseless allegation. Bad for Wilder?

Why can't they just accept the result and focus on the next fight?
Wilder almost lose in the first fight, so there is no reason for people to believe that Fury has to cheat or cheating since some of them are even convince that it was Fury who won in the first fight. Another excuse from him, maybe the end of his career is near.

Is this some kind of publicity stunt on Wilder's camp to stir another discussion and bring people to talk about their fight again? I agree that they should focus on the trilogy as this really spells the career of Deontay. He should have tell his brother to just shut up.

His brother's career though is very different so maybe he has suffer some dent himself from the knockout he got. Grin

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Why can't they just accept the result and focus on the next fight?
Wilder almost lose in the first fight, so there is no reason for people to believe that Fury has to cheat or cheating since some of them are even convince that it was Fury who won in the first fight. Another excuse from him, maybe the end of his career is near.

May be one, may be many different excuses to explain the the loser, but if he loses many times, he will have no reason to justify it. So what we are waiting for is a convincing victory for Fury for the upcoming battle Cheesy

I am eager to see a one-sided battle to prove the strong Cheesy

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Quote from: btc_angela on July 01, 2020, 05:36:02 AM

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 30, 2020, 06:27:46 PM

Public losing trust on Wilder?

If a fighter is refusing to accept defeat and start blaming on his outfit you think that the public would rally behind that fighter. Wilder was too confident in his punching power and he was arrogant moving up the division and everyone was banking on his knockout capability and Fury showed that punching power does not actually mean anything if you are not having technique and how can anyone vouch for Wilder after watching two fights.

The line is inviting the Wilder believers to to bet on him, at +250, I've never seen in the past that Wilder having that odds, most of the time he is a favorite.
For Fury, I think -350 is not that attractive, but if there's a betting odds on Fury winning by KO, I think that would give better odds.

It's because he lost the second fight badly that's why the odd makers put him as the underdog although we know that he can surprise Fury specially his powerful right. So it is a good and very attractive odd, specially if you are a Wilder fan. Nothing to lose, bet big and you win big. Perhaps the odds might change a bit as we get closer to the fight, but I think Fury will be the big favourite here and complete this trilogy.

I am not expecting for a change anymore, if there is then I think it would still favor Fury.
Most of the articles I read online are not appreciating Wilder, it appreciates Fury and people are also hoping that a big fight between Fury and AJ would happen. With that, I think they already think that Fury would easily beat Wilder and the big fight will be set once AJ would also succeed against Puleb.

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An article pops up accusing Fury of loading his gloves, this is according to Wilder's brother.

Fury Vows To End Wilder's Career After Claim of Loaded Gloves

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In a recent social media post, Marsellos Wilder, the younger brother of former heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder, made a sensational claim that Tyson Fury may have loaded his gloves for the rematch with Deontay back in February.

“You know it’s crazy when you [are] great. They gotta do everything that is underneath real to figure out how to stop you. And the most wicked sh-t about [it] is- people on your own team will do anything for the hate [or] money to help [the opponents] take you down. It was discovered by doctors that my brother has a dent [at] the side of his head [due] to a blunt object [striking] his head [in] his last fight. No glove or fist was able to cause the damage according to the autopsy. My daddy once told me if you pull a gun out on somebody, you better kill them. Because if you don’t, they are gonna come back and kill you. The king is about to rise again. We [are] coming for blood," Marsellos Wilder stated.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-vows-end-wilder-career-claim-loaded-gloves--149855

I doubt that those allegations are true though, there are a lot of people including boxing bodies representatives and even the WBC President said that he is present in both in the dressing room. So I don't know where the hell did Marsellos Wilder got this idea.

This another b_s excuse on the Wilder camp on why their guy lost the fight. I think, after that Margarito incident, boxing bodies are very strict on inspecting gloves to prevent another such incident. I read an article that Fury is more motivated to end the career of Wilder after knowing that baseless allegation. Bad for Wilder?

I agree, it's really getting absurd here, you can't just accused someone without any proof and this just surface today after so many months already. So we really don't know that intention of Deontay's brother by going public by this allegations. And they look like really a loser here by coming up with any preposterous claims. Lol. And judging by Fury's reply, it just added fuel to the fire and I think it just make it worst for Wilder in this trilogy.

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An article pops up accusing Fury of loading his gloves, this is according to Wilder's brother.

Fury Vows To End Wilder's Career After Claim of Loaded Gloves

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In a recent social media post, Marsellos Wilder, the younger brother of former heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder, made a sensational claim that Tyson Fury may have loaded his gloves for the rematch with Deontay back in February.

“You know it’s crazy when you [are] great. They gotta do everything that is underneath real to figure out how to stop you. And the most wicked sh-t about [it] is- people on your own team will do anything for the hate [or] money to help [the opponents] take you down. It was discovered by doctors that my brother has a dent [at] the side of his head [due] to a blunt object [striking] his head [in] his last fight. No glove or fist was able to cause the damage according to the autopsy. My daddy once told me if you pull a gun out on somebody, you better kill them. Because if you don’t, they are gonna come back and kill you. The king is about to rise again. We [are] coming for blood," Marsellos Wilder stated.

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-vows-end-wilder-career-claim-loaded-gloves--149855

I doubt that those allegations are true though, there are a lot of people including boxing bodies representatives and even the WBC President said that he is present in both in the dressing room. So I don't know where the hell did Marsellos Wilder got this idea.

This another b_s excuse on the Wilder camp on why their guy lost the fight. I think, after that Margarito incident, boxing bodies are very strict on inspecting gloves to prevent another such incident. I read an article that Fury is more motivated to end the career of Wilder after knowing that baseless allegation. Bad for Wilder?

Why can't they just accept the result and focus on the next fight?
Wilder almost lose in the first fight, so there is no reason for people to believe that Fury has to cheat or cheating since some of them are even convince that it was Fury who won in the first fight. Another excuse from him, maybe the end of his career is near.

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